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  • I don't really understand Motor Racing. I understand it even less now!
     Me too!

    Shouldn't Hamilton of been brought back early in in this race when he cut the corner after Verstappen got on amongst him?
    Karma
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited December 2021
    I think Mercedes were too cautious when Max made his first pit stop covering him. But you can't blame them for the other pit stops. It was a crazy finish that is hard to process.
  • Disgusting - FIA are disgusting - engineered that - you either let ALL lapped cars through - or NO lapped cars through

    Wankers
  • Congratulations Max... He didn't make the rules!! 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    I don’t even like F1 but that’s proper pissed me off 
  • The F1 stewards should officiate the Ashes. Give us a 200 run headstart to make it a more exciting spectacle
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    The F1 stewards should officiate the Ashes. Give us a 200 run headstart to make it a more exciting spectacle
    We would still lose though.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    I dont understand why cars are allowed to unlap themselves. What is all that about ?. Surely where you are on the track is where you are on the track. If you come in for a put stop that's your look out. Under the SC you are at least saving yourself some time as everyone is going slow & you catch up the pack in the end.

    Someone please explain. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Disgusting - FIA are disgusting - engineered that - you either let ALL lapped cars through - or NO lapped cars through

    Wankers
    That is a point, but they are making it exciting which is what it is. Hard on Lewis though. He will come back strong next year because he is the GOAT.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Congratulations Max... He didn't make the rules!! 
    Well, that’s true - but Masi HAS to follow them.
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  • Totally confused. 
    How can LH have a 14 second lead with a few laps to go then it comes down to a 1 lap shoot out ?
  • Disgusting - FIA are disgusting - engineered that - you either let ALL lapped cars through - or NO lapped cars through

    Wankers
    I don't totally understand why the lapped cars is an issue. Wasn't it a 1 lap race off with Hamilton in front to begin with but Verstappen managed to overtake him (where it was ok to overtake)?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited December 2021
    I dont understand why cars are allowed to unlap themselves. What is all that about ?. Surely where you are on the track is where you are on the track. If you come in for a put stop that's your look out. Under the SC you are at least saving yourself some time as everyone is going slow & you catch up the pack in the end.

    Someone please explain. 
    Its so everyone is on the same lap, means there are no cars in the way so its a straight fight... Had they not moved out the way then Hamilton would have disappeared down the road on that last lap
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Couldn’t bring myself to watch the last lap. As soon as they let the lapped cars through, I knew Hamilton was toast. Farcical decision.
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334
    Out for the old dears birthday, was keeping up with it but bbc not actually said what the mess is about. Can someone clarify?
    In short-Max pitted on a virtual safety car, mercedes gambled and left Lewis out. Then a safety car about 7 laps out, Max got another free pit stop leaving Lewis on old tyres. Masi had to choose between letting all the lapped cars through which would have meant no restart and a Lewis win or letting none of them through which probably leads to a Lewis win. Instead he made up a 3rd option and let just 5 of them through so Max started next to Lewis on his new tyres and beat him in a 1 lap race
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    I dont understand why cars are allowed to unlap themselves. What is all that about ?. Surely where you are on the track is where you are on the track. If you come in for a put stop that's your look out. Under the SC you are at least saving yourself some time as everyone is going slow & you catch up the pack in the end.

    Someone please explain. 
    Its so everyone is on the same lap, means there are no cars in the way so its a straight fight... Had they not moved out the way then Hamilton would have disappeared down the road on that last lap
    I understand that, but why are lapped cars usually allowed to unlap themselves before the race restarts. Dont understand.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    Hamilton conducted himself like a real gentleman in his interview just now.
    Not sure I would have given the circumstances. 
    He's gone up massively in my opinion. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Disgusting - FIA are disgusting - engineered that - you either let ALL lapped cars through - or NO lapped cars through

    Wankers
    I don't totally understand why the lapped cars is an issue. Wasn't it a 1 lap race off with Hamilton in front to begin with but Verstappen managed to overtake him (where it was ok to overtake)?
    Max on on fresh fast tyres - it was no competition.
  • Hamilton extremely gracious and polite in interview, love to know what's really being said by Mercedes. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    Netflix get their Hollywood ending for DTS..... Masi I'd be shocked if he's still in position in Bahrain in March. 

    Great ending but all feels very on brand for this season with weird officiating
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  • Disgusting - FIA are disgusting - engineered that - you either let ALL lapped cars through - or NO lapped cars through

    Wankers
    That is a point, but they are making it exciting which is what it is. Hard on Lewis though. He will come back strong next year because he is the GOAT.
    Then it ceases to be a sport if that’s how it operates - stretch a point to make a point - in football, the Ref decides (off his own back) that the last 10 minutes we don’t have offside 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    “Ohhh, it’s outrageous, the FIA are against us, they want Lewis to win waaah waaah waaah… eh? What’s that? Oh, sorry, I mean what a brilliant organisation the FIA are, excellent decision, all above board, fantastic.”
  • bobmunro said:
    Disgusting - FIA are disgusting - engineered that - you either let ALL lapped cars through - or NO lapped cars through

    Wankers
    I don't totally understand why the lapped cars is an issue. Wasn't it a 1 lap race off with Hamilton in front to begin with but Verstappen managed to overtake him (where it was ok to overtake)?
    Max on on fresh fast tyres - it was no competition.
    Circumstances. A superior car is potentially no competition
  • I dont understand why cars are allowed to unlap themselves. What is all that about ?. Surely where you are on the track is where you are on the track. If you come in for a put stop that's your look out. Under the SC you are at least saving yourself some time as everyone is going slow & you catch up the pack in the end.

    Someone please explain. 
    Its so everyone is on the same lap, means there are no cars in the way so its a straight fight... Had they not moved out the way then Hamilton would have disappeared down the road on that last lap
    I understand that, but why are lapped cars usually allowed to unlap themselves before the race restarts. Dont understand.
    Because they're out of the way for safety... The field gets bunched up by the car in first once the SC goes into the pits - It already gets messy enough on the restart, you'd be left with cars desperate to get past the backmarkers, and backmarkers desperate to get out of the way
  • RedArmySE7
    RedArmySE7 Posts: 5,407
    One of the worst decisions I’ve seen in sport. Farcical.
  • rina said:
    Out for the old dears birthday, was keeping up with it but bbc not actually said what the mess is about. Can someone clarify?
    In short-Max pitted on a virtual safety car, mercedes gambled and left Lewis out. Then a safety car about 7 laps out, Max got another free pit stop leaving Lewis on old tyres. Masi had to choose between letting all the lapped cars through which would have meant no restart and a Lewis win or letting none of them through which probably leads to a Lewis win. Instead he made up a 3rd option and let just 5 of them through so Max started next to Lewis on his new tyres and beat him in a 1 lap race
    Which is a really contrived way of creating a final lap drama, for what is meant to be a sport
  • rina said:
    Out for the old dears birthday, was keeping up with it but bbc not actually said what the mess is about. Can someone clarify?
    In short-Max pitted on a virtual safety car, mercedes gambled and left Lewis out. Then a safety car about 7 laps out, Max got another free pit stop leaving Lewis on old tyres. Masi had to choose between letting all the lapped cars through which would have meant no restart and a Lewis win or letting none of them through which probably leads to a Lewis win. Instead he made up a 3rd option and let just 5 of them through so Max started next to Lewis on his new tyres and beat him in a 1 lap race
    Wow. Thats unbelievable.
  • Hamilton conducted himself like a real gentleman in his interview just now.
    Not sure I would have given the circumstances. 
    He's gone up massively in my opinion. 
    He’s always been like that really.

    The bigger news is George Russell (maybe trying to get his new team on side) has just gone apoplectic on Twitter saying it is unacceptable what we have just seen.
  • Masi saying its an F1 race so they should be allowed to race.

    So you let the backmarkers past on lap 57 so they can start properly on lap 58?
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    edited December 2021
    That conversation between Wolff and Masi is outrageous. “Toto, it’s a motor race”. Fuck off.