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  • What is the reference to wife beater?
    Jos Verstappen

    Bloke is a nasty piece of work not just to his wife but to Max in his youth as well
    Thanks, I realised as was watching a few seconds delayed as had paused it before
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    We have heard the last of it the same as you get when you get a rubbish ref that influences the game.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    Let’s be honest. Verstappen is an excellent driver and, over the course of the season, he’s probably been the best driver and, on balance deserves it.

    I’m not happy about it and I’m not happy about the circumstances. Lewis Hamilton showed the control under pressure to steal the championship from under Verstappen’s nose. For some reason, Masi felt his duty was to hinder one team and help another in order to manufacture a grand finale. Completely wrong. He decided to award the title to his mate Horner.
  • rina said:
    Out for the old dears birthday, was keeping up with it but bbc not actually said what the mess is about. Can someone clarify?
    In short-Max pitted on a virtual safety car, mercedes gambled and left Lewis out. Then a safety car about 7 laps out, Max got another free pit stop leaving Lewis on old tyres. Masi had to choose between letting all the lapped cars through which would have meant no restart and a Lewis win or letting none of them through which probably leads to a Lewis win. Instead he made up a 3rd option and let just 5 of them through so Max started next to Lewis on his new tyres and beat him in a 1 lap race
    Disgusting. Feel for Lewis if that’s the case. 


  • Nothing in here about the Clerk of the Course CHOOSING which lapped cars will un lap themselves - it’s either all or none

    Whats the betting the Yanks who own F1 now engineered this
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,066
    Fair play to Lewis for not acting like a child like Max did in the previous race and walk off the podium. 
    Masi should be relieved of his duties for the 2022 season. Joke ending.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    rina said:
    Out for the old dears birthday, was keeping up with it but bbc not actually said what the mess is about. Can someone clarify?
    In short-Max pitted on a virtual safety car, mercedes gambled and left Lewis out. Then a safety car about 7 laps out, Max got another free pit stop leaving Lewis on old tyres. Masi had to choose between letting all the lapped cars through which would have meant no restart and a Lewis win or letting none of them through which probably leads to a Lewis win. Instead he made up a 3rd option and let just 5 of them through so Max started next to Lewis on his new tyres and beat him in a 1 lap race
    Disgusting. Feel for Lewis if that’s the case. 
    That is exactly the case.
  • I've always hated the safety car rules anyway, in no other sport can a lead evaporate like that due to external factors.

    Yes it makes races more "exciting" but this is meant to be a sport, not a Simon Cowell reality show.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited December 2021


    Nothing in here about the Clerk of the Course CHOOSING which lapped cars will un lap themselves - it’s either all or none

    Whats the betting the Yanks who own F1 now engineered this
    Yes, he bent the rules but that's what dodgy refs do. He would say that he allowed them to race safely. The procedures/rules seem to be meaningless to the bloke but he is effectively the ref. We could say the push on Dobson for Shrewsbury's winner was incredibly poor reffing but even though it was clearly wrong, the game is lost on that.
  • I've always hated the safety car rules anyway, in no other sport can a lead evaporate like that due to external factors.

    Yes it makes races more "exciting" but this is meant to be a sport, not a Simon Cowell reality show.
    Drive to Survive says otherwise... Too many third pary factors now. 
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  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    Michael Masi. You got this:

  • Might be clutching at straws but was Verstappen now weaving when defending from Hamilton? - Changed racing line about three times
  • SUPER SUPER SUPER MAX 
    Not a F1 fan at all. That sport is so clearly fixed. I also find it truly bizarre how you’d want an Englishman to lose in any international sport, if that’s what you want to call F1. Justify it however you like but it’s pretty strange. 
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    I think Mercedes are in a no win situation here. 
    They appeal, look like sore losers and I feel they won't win it anyways. 
    I hope they show the same class that LH has shown tonight, regardless of the outcome. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    I've always hated the safety car rules anyway, in no other sport can a lead evaporate like that due to external factors.

    Yes it makes races more "exciting" but this is meant to be a sport, not a Simon Cowell reality show.
    Yeah it’s ridiculous, plus the fact you can put during it as well. 

    Hamilton drove like an animal on old tyres to keep Verstappen 12 seconds behind yet the title is decided on some bloke at the back crashing into a wall and then the race director changing the rules. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    edited December 2021
    farce, fix or both ?  .. first time I have watched F1 for a loooong time and I won't bother for another long time. So, have I got this right,  Hamilton leads the race by a country mile, a crash brings out the 'safety car', the cars all bunch up, irrespective of the distance between them over the preceding 50+ laps, and then the race is (seemingly arbitrarily) restarted for a one lap 'sprint' to decide the whole season  ..
    so why bother with the previous 50 odd laps, just have the two main protagonists behind a 'safety car' which then gets out the road and a one lap race decides it .. fucking rubbish, a waste of petrol, tyres, plastic, metal AND my time  >:)
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    Might be clutching at straws but was Verstappen now weaving when defending from Hamilton? - Changed racing line about three times
    I think after seeing Leclercs defence against Bottas they obviously weren't really policing the amount of weaves. 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    edited December 2021
    Might be clutching at straws but was Verstappen now weaving when defending from Hamilton? - Changed racing line about three times
    Yeah definitely clutching mate. Weaving was the least of his crimes. 😂
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
    Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
    I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843


    Nothing in here about the Clerk of the Course CHOOSING which lapped cars will un lap themselves - it’s either all or none

    Whats the betting the Yanks who own F1 now engineered this
    Yes, he bent the rules but that's what dodgy refs do. He would say that he allowed them to race safely. The procedures/rules seem to be meaningless to the bloke but he is effectively the ref. We could say the push on Dobson for Shrewsbury's winner was incredibly poor reffing but even though it was clearly wrong, the game is lost on that.
    Can a ref give a penalty for a hand ball in the centre circle?
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    seth plum said:
    To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
    Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
    I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.
    Seriously, ‘ultra Nationalists’.

    You need help.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    Wanted Hamilton to win and, apart fromn the safety car, would have.  But put a fiver on Max to win the championshipo early on - so £43 better off.  Happy days.
  • Mercedes should have also taken advantage of free out stop and changed tyres like Red Bull it cost Lewis big time.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    ozaddick said:
    I think Mercedes are in a no win situation here. 
    They appeal, look like sore losers and I feel they won't win it anyways. 
    I hope they show the same class that LH has shown tonight, regardless of the outcome. 
    I kind of agree, but you could argue they have a cast iron case. 
    The race director arbitrarily decided to make a decision that was not in the rules in order to change the race. Absolutely not ok.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    seth plum said:
    To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
    Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
    I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.
    Seriously, ‘ultra Nationalists’.

    You need help.
    There are some ultra nationalists around aren’t there?
    Even if they don’t occupy these boards.
    Why would using that term lead to you judging that I need help?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Bitterly disappointed. But congratulations to Verstsppen - a well deserved championship for a brilliant driver. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    seth plum said:
    To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
    Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
    I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.
    What a crock of shit. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
    Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
    I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.
    Seriously, ‘ultra Nationalists’.

    You need help.
    There are some ultra nationalists around aren’t there?
    Even if they don’t occupy these boards.
    Why would using that term lead to you judging that I need help?
    Ohhh look at me, look at me.

    Youre a wrongen.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    bobmunro said:
    seth plum said:
    To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
    Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
    I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.
    What a crock of shit. 
    I disagree.
    Verstappen changed tyres when Hamilton didn’t.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited December 2021
    seth plum said:
    seth plum said:
    To me, admittedly ignorant of the finer points of the sport, the shenanigans at the start when Lewis Hamilton took a short cut was balanced out by the shenanigans at the end.
    Max Verstappen is a worthy world champion because he was brave enough to visit Kwik fit when Hamilton stayed out on the track.
    I like Hamilton and wanted him to win, but there is some compensation that the ultra nationalists are pissed off.
    Seriously, ‘ultra Nationalists’.

    You need help.
    There are some ultra nationalists around aren’t there?
    Even if they don’t occupy these boards.
    Why would using that term lead to you judging that I need help?
    Shut up!! - Always got to be the attention seeker