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Jonjo Shelvey

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    https://youtu.be/OiuiSwkTTBk
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    30 today. Looks the same as he did when he made his debut for us at the age of 16 almost 14 years ago. He also seems to have found a manager to get the best out of him as he's played every single minute of their seven match unbeaten Premier League run. Or he's just grown up at last.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Addick Addict said:
    30 today. Looks the same as he did when he made his debut for us at the age of 16 almost 14 years ago. He also seems to have found a manager to get the best out of him as he's played every single minute of their seven match unbeaten Premier League run. Or he's just grown up at last.
    one of the really in form English midfielders at present
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Funny career Jonjo has had. 
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,808
    Maybe his football brain has now caught up with the talent in his feet.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    Scoham said:
    Captained Newcastle according to the Sky Sports app and played in a midfield three with the two goalscorers either side of him.

    I look forward to us bringing him back when he’s 37 and slower than Ben Watson.
    He could sit all game in the centre circle  and ping balls all day our squad would be too thick to read. Bit like when he was a 17 year old playing for us then. I love him and wished we saw more of him, carried quality round with him 
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    I've often thought he'd do very well in Italy. He's got the attributes to be an English Pirlo but the pace of our domestic game doesn't do him any favours
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Scoham said:
    Captained Newcastle according to the Sky Sports app and played in a midfield three with the two goalscorers either side of him.

    I look forward to us bringing him back when he’s 37 and slower than Ben Watson.
    I mean he's never been quick... might already be slower than Watson. take that from someone who is not fast :lol:
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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    SantaClaus said:
    I've often thought he'd do very well in Italy. He's got the attributes to be an English Pirlo but the pace of our domestic game doesn't do him any favours
    I think he can handle the pace but you are spot on about him being suited the the Italian game. They appreciate players like him 
  • Valleysarr
    Valleysarr Posts: 1,097
    I watched him the other day and was absolute quality and no bias from me. 
    He will be a very rich man but he probably should have had a slightly better career! 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    Valleysarr said:
    I watched him the other day and was absolute quality and no bias from me. 
    He will be a very rich man but he probably should have had a slightly better career! 
    He played for Liverpool & now Newcastle, who are one of the best supported teams in Europe. Played most of his career in the Premier League......which is something not many of our recent academy lads will do at age 31 (Grant and Burstow to name but 2). 

    When posters tell us that the likes of Deji or Kanu are too young they seem to forget Shelvey played in the first team when he was 16.

    For me he us up there with the likes of Parker & Gomez is terms of quality we have "given" the Premier League.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    golfaddick said:
    Valleysarr said:
    I watched him the other day and was absolute quality and no bias from me. 
    He will be a very rich man but he probably should have had a slightly better career! 
    He played for Liverpool & now Newcastle, who are one of the best supported teams in Europe. Played most of his career in the Premier League......which is something not many of our recent academy lads will do at age 31 (Grant and Burstow to name but 2). 

    When posters tell us that the likes of Deji or Kanu are too young they seem to forget Shelvey played in the first team when he was 16.

    For me he us up there with the likes of Parker & Gomez is terms of quality we have "given" the Premier League.
    Completely agree, from his debut up at Oakwell to the last game of the season when he made a huge difference paying in the middle of the park at 16. He was a Bowyer though, tough kid, tough background, not afraid of going for a 50/50 and meaning it, it helped he was built very much like a man when he was 16 but in truth his attitude was the difference between players like him and Scotty Wagstaff.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    Eddie Howe seems to have resurrected his Newcastle career....playing well
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Carter said:
    golfaddick said:
    Valleysarr said:
    I watched him the other day and was absolute quality and no bias from me. 
    He will be a very rich man but he probably should have had a slightly better career! 
    He played for Liverpool & now Newcastle, who are one of the best supported teams in Europe. Played most of his career in the Premier League......which is something not many of our recent academy lads will do at age 31 (Grant and Burstow to name but 2). 

    When posters tell us that the likes of Deji or Kanu are too young they seem to forget Shelvey played in the first team when he was 16.

    For me he us up there with the likes of Parker & Gomez is terms of quality we have "given" the Premier League.
    Completely agree, from his debut up at Oakwell to the last game of the season when he made a huge difference paying in the middle of the park at 16. He was a Bowyer though, tough kid, tough background, not afraid of going for a 50/50 and meaning it, it helped he was built very much like a man when he was 16 but in truth his attitude was the difference between players like him and Scotty Wagstaff.
    If there was one area Wagstaff couldn’t be faulted it was his attitude. Shelvey had/has far more natural ability and as you say was built like a man at 16. With a worse attitude Shelvey probaly would have played in the lower leagues while Wagstaff would have been non-league at best.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    I've probably worded that wrong, Scott had a fantastic work rate but I think he was a bit under prepared when he was first put in the side. Jonjo had a real fuck you type attitude from day 1 whereas it took a bit longer for Scott to have that about him 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Know what you mean, Shelvey could handle the physicality, tempo etc of the step up. I remember Pardew taking Wagstaff off at half time in a cup game, it was clear he wasn’t ready for it. A couple of loans combined with our relegation to L1 helped him get there a year later.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Apologised for winning. Brighton had 68% possession.


  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,379
    Because I can only rarely watch Charlton other than live at the witching hour  I don’t see much of Charlton. I can easily see replays of the premiership and I tended to watch Chris Wood (kiwi) with Burnley and now Newcastle . So I’ve seen Shelvey play three or four weekends in a row recently and I have to say he’s been superb. 
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  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,379
    Shelvey that is. Although Chris has been a decent hold up and lay off man - just no goals yet
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,451

    Nottingham Forest midfielder Jonjo Shelvey has joined Turkish club Caykur Rizespor after just seven-and-a-half months at the City Ground.

    The former England international, 31, completed the move before Friday's transfer deadline in Turkey.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66802452

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    edited September 2023
    clive said:

    Nottingham Forest midfielder Jonjo Shelvey has joined Turkish club Caykur Rizespor after just seven-and-a-half months at the City Ground.

    The former England international, 31, completed the move before Friday's transfer deadline in Turkey.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66802452


     Having left Newcastle he went back to them for a farewell and was very well received.  Unfortunately, he had a fallout with Cooper by all accounts, was available for sale during our window and wasn't going to be included in Forest's PL squad hence the move now. Despite flashes of genius at times and the occasional string of performances, he's never quite consistently hit the heights that many of us thought that he would. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    I think he has had a brilliant top level career. 

    He will be class in Turkey and the fans will again love him. He was criminally overlooked by England at a time we were screaming for someone with a brain and imagination in central midfield. England managers definitely go for caution and for players they feel they can trust and Jonjo clearly never gave them that sense which is a shame. I think he fulfilled his potential and still has plenty to give to the game, fair play to him for going abroad to keep playing top level football 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Brilliant? How would you rate it out of 10?
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    David Beckham had a brilliant career.

    I would say that shelvey has had a good top flight career. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited September 2023
    Given his pace, he's done very well to play in the PL as long as he did. His technical ability, passing and striking of the ball was easily PL quality for a long time.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,206
    Callumcafc said:
    https://youtu.be/OiuiSwkTTBk
    I thought this video was going to be Shelvey doing a cover version of  The Who’s 5:15 
  • Ian Nightingale
    Ian Nightingale Posts: 392
    Jonjo after 3 months in Turkey (sent from my Forest mate)
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,257
    edited September 2023
    i'll never forget how excited I was that first season when he was breaking through with us. 

    Nothing but admiration for the guy and i've enjoyed following his career and gutted he never made that breakthrough internationally because he was definitely talented and focused enough. When you look at someone like Walcott who dined off one England hat trick for basically his whole international career I do wonder what he would have done with those kinds of opportunies he got during the same period of time.

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