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P&O sack/make redundant 800 staff on the spot
carly burn
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Broke every employment law in the book by all accounts.
Foreign owned. Gave the government a good bunce to get on the books no doubt and don't give a shit.
Countries on its arse!
Foreign owned. Gave the government a good bunce to get on the books no doubt and don't give a shit.
Countries on its arse!
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Glad we haven't booked them for our driving holiday in May and will never use them again.10
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not just the family silver sold off, the china, saucepans and wooden spoons as well .. there is fuck all left in England for the City to flog off at a discountcarly burn said:Broke every employment law in the book by all accounts.
Foreign owned. Gave the government a good bunch to get on the books no doubt and don't give a shit.
Countries on its arse!9 -
We won’t be using them when we go to France this summer.MuttleyCAFC said:Glad we haven't booked them for our driving holiday in May and will never use them again.1 -
Apparently there's at least one sit in on board one of the ships.2
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The crew should scuttle the f…… thing.NornIrishAddick said:Apparently there's at least one sit in on board one of the ships.3 -
Tories have decimated the rights of the British worker in favour of the foreign greedy bastards that line their pockets for years and years.
F******g disgrace!28 -
I knew this would be the government's fault somehow!15
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Never trust a Tory. Things like this happen when you you have a Tory government.42
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charltonkeston you no every tory do you?7
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They have clearly broken the law, but are probably calculating that by the time it is sorted and they're fined or whatever, the savings will have paid for any sanctions.
One clear aspect of this awful event is that P&O are absolutely wrong to describe what they're doing is redundancies.
A redundancy is about the job no longer needed being doing any more, but they want to hire cheaper agency people to do the job...that still exists! The action is about an attack on the individuals, not the job they were doing, which i am pretty sure breaks employment law.
The ability of trade unions to act has been gradually diminished, or made much harder, since the days of Thatcher which has led to this fire and re-hire culture. Will this government enact, or toughen up present, legislation to protect workers from this kind of appalling treatment?
I doubt it because this present government associates Trade Unions with dastardly advances such as sick pay, maternity leave, paid holidays, health and safety measures, meaningful consultation with workers, and paying said workers at a decent level.
It is absolutely because of this kind of behaviour by P&O and it's non domicile parent company that makes me, for one at least, glad to hear of industrial action by organised workers anywhere, yes even train drivers.
You go to work this morning, your life and near term future sorted as best as anybody is able, and you get an internet message that tells you to leave immediately.
The company saying eff off and we'll see you in court.40 - Sponsored links:
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This is absolutely shocking behaviour and totally illegal. No consultation. No warning. No nothing. It also sets a precedent and if the Government does not take immediate action then it will open the floodgates for other unscrupulous companies to do exactly the same thing.12
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Just so that everyone is clear, this is P&O Ferries, who run ferries out of Dover and Hull and other places, and is in no way connected to P&O Cruises, who run cruise ships out of Southampton and ports around the World....
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You got me there. 😀😀😀😀ecclesaddick said:charltonkeston you no every tory do you?0 -
Oh that’s the family cruise to Calais cancelled thenSporadicAddick said:Just so that everyone is clear, this is P&O Ferries, who run ferries out of Dover and Hull and other places, and is in no way connected to P&O Cruises, who run cruise ships out of Southampton and ports around the World....20 -
‘no’ every ‘tory’ - where do I begin with this post……ecclesaddick said:charltonkeston you no every tory do you?
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And it aint the place you buy your stamps from either. JUST tubby clearSporadicAddick said:Just so that everyone is clear, this is P&O Ferries, who run ferries out of Dover and Hull and other places, and is in no way connected to P&O Cruises, who run cruise ships out of Southampton and ports around the World....8 -
And just to be clear it's not a musical instrument favoured by Liberace30
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knowecclesaddick said:charltonkeston you no every tory do you?1 -
Not sure that your first sentence is correct. It depends on where the ships are registered and were the employment contracts are signed. The shipping industry is completely international and the British merchant navy has been decimated over the last 20 years by actions similar to P&O Ferries. I speak as someone who was employed in the UK shipping industry throughout my working lifecarly burn said:Broke every employment law in the book by all accounts.
Foreign owned. Gave the government a good bunce to get on the books no doubt and don't give a shit.
Countries on its arse!3 -
That's awful news. The P&O owners should be ashamed of themselves (but I'm sure they're not).3
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lancashire lad said:
Not sure that your first sentence is correct. It depends on where the ships are registered and were the employment contracts are signed. The shipping industry is completely international and the British merchant navy has been decimated over the last 20 years by actions similar to P&O Ferries. I speak as someone who was employed in the UK shipping industry throughout my working lifecarly burn said:Broke every employment law in the book by all accounts.
Foreign owned. Gave the government a good bunce to get on the books no doubt and don't give a shit.
Countries on its arse!That is indeed true. This is our PMs response:
Downing Street said the Government was not given any advance notice by P&O of the company's plans.
The Prime Minister's official spokesman said officials were in “urgent” talks to find out what the company's plans were.
“We weren't given any notice to this. We are speaking to the company to understand what approach it is taking,” the spokesman said.
“We do not agree with the practice of fire and rehire and would be dismayed if this is the outcome they were seeking to achieve.”
The spokesman said he did not believe the issue was discussed when Boris Johnson was in the UAE on Wednesday, even though the company is owned by Dubai-based logistics giant DP World.
Why would Johnson raise this? It doesn't affect him after all.
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Bet they were happy to use the furlough money during Covid.8
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As others have said P and O have clearly made a decision that any savings they make will cover the costs of any legal battles. No company that size would come to a decision like this without seeking plenty of legal advice first, whilst they are more than likely breaking employment law they are clearly hedging their bets that the savings outweigh any costs which might come from court action.
However if anyone has happened to watch the 3 minute pre recorded video of the Chief Executive laying everyone off he is very clear everyone will get enhanced redundancy packages....... If they sign a settlement agreement. Which will no doubt include an agreement not to take any legal action against P and O.
They are clearly hoping that their employees are going to be so financially stricken by being laid off with immediate effect that there'll sign whatever is in front of them as they know most staff will be like the majority of the working class population in the UK, living month to month and pay cheque to pay cheque.
It is all well and good saying employees should take collective action and fight against this but when people have families to feed you will no doubt see many being forced into signing these settlement agreements because they can't afford to wait for the outcome of any legal battles.
As others have said an absolutely disgraceful way to treat a workforce. So much scheming and deceit has clearly gone into this whole operation but one thing that sticks in my mind is the fact they have clearly pre-booked handcuff trained private security guards to eject colleagues from the ships, moments after laying them all off with immediate effect via a pre recoded video message.
The only thing I will add is to anyone considering using P and O again, if that is how they treat their workforce imagine how they treat their customers.
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Take back control is what Boris promised. This is what was delivered.12
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I would hope the Union would help with financial support until court action.
For 800 though, that will be tough unless the wider Union movement can pitch in.
I don’t know the legalities mind you, and how that might impact on unemployment claims.5 -
Literally nothing to do with Brexit ffsGammon said:Take back control is what Boris promised. This is what was delivered.8 -
Absolutely appalling- I will never use P & O again8
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Of course it is? Replacing hard working British Workers with cheap, un-unionized agency staff who can be hired and fired at a moments notice is what was promised by taking back control?cafcnick1992 said:
Literally nothing to do with Brexit ffsGammon said:Take back control is what Boris promised. This is what was delivered.
Or how about the fact the owners of P and O also happen to own one of the major free- ports in the UK. A scheme designed to expand global trade which we need to claw back due to us leaving the EU.
The government had opportunity to make fire and re-hire illegal policies illegal less than a year ago and they chose not to, instead they just described them as a 'last resort'.
Unless you make something illegal unscrupulous employers like P and O will exploit every loop-hole in the book to increase their bottom line, as they have done today.
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The Government doesn't give a shit about employment rights - it's the British way.Addick Addict said:This is absolutely shocking behaviour and totally illegal. No consultation. No warning. No nothing. It also sets a precedent and if the Government does not take immediate action then it will open the floodgates for other unscrupulous companies to do exactly the same thing.11 -
Any idea how many got sacked in other countries?0
