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Wetherspoons at London Liverpool St was open and serving beer from 7am I believe (I got a pint there at 8am), and there were already plenty of Charlton in there drinking - I got cans for the train, and was surprised to find the away pub by the station open and serving at 10am - indeed Police actively encouraging going in thereclb74 said:
Was an early kick off yesterday south west, there was still a few smashed out thier heads.SouthWest_Addicks said:I know personally we have definitely got a bad reputation amongst the local old bill up and down the country. Only got to see the increasing police presence at matches to see this in action. Nowhere near the stage of having matches moved to early kick offs, but is definitely moving that way for some matches etc.
Are early kick offs the answer?
Sheffield Wednesday away we went via Doncaster.
Leeds were at home to Spurs , we caught about the 7pm train home from Donny there were plenty of Leeds and Spurs looking the worse for wear.
So yep, I had many beers, but did I cause trouble, throw a smoke bomb, destroy the toilets - nope I did not - I watched 75 mins of Charlton playing crap, went to station, got on train, and some other Addicks were kind enough to give me a can of lager - quick beer at the Wetherspoons at Liverpool St to debate how crap we are / what’s the solution etc - atmosphere was good
Then it was time to go home and fall asleep in front of the snooker - nice day out, apart from that 75 mins !!!6 -
away day drinkers
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Our activity comes from the yoof who are excitable. Police more worried about anti social behaviour compared to having a 30 on 30 tear up with opposition boys.SporadicAddick said:
I’d imagine that the “reputation” comes with a wry smile from the old bill. Others with a reputation are likely to seek other fans of a similar mindset. A significant bunch of ours would melt at the first sight of a proper firm, which is why they stick to smashing up toilets - dickheads.SouthWest_Addicks said:I know personally we have definitely got a bad reputation amongst the local old bill up and down the country. Only got to see the increasing police presence at matches to see this in action. Nowhere near the stage of having matches moved to early kick offs, but is definitely moving that way for some matches etc.0 -
Well done son, bet your mums proud.
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Smashing up the toilets is shameful.
There may also be psychological challenges like Chronic neurotic encopresis.
Chronic neurotic encopresis (CNE), a childhood psychiatric disorder characterized by inappropriate fecal soiling, necessitated the formation of the following specific etiological factors: a) a neurologically immature developmental musculature, an organic condition which may complicate toilet training; b) premature or harsh toilet training; c) a family constellation in which the father is frequently absent and the mother erratic, emotionally inappropriate, and distant; d) the child's formation of a noncommunicative, passive, dependent personality. All of these factors are helpful in explaining the occurrence of CNE, which is thus seen as the result of a synergistic interaction among them. The complexity of etiological agents dictates a multifactorial rather than unicausal model of mental illness. Future research and tactics of psychotherapeutic intervention should focus on the interplay among these factors rather than attempting to single out one primary predisposing factor.
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Unusual to find a bog actually with toilet paper in it.Mendonca In Asdas said:Well done son, bet your mums proud.7 -
Will richarlison be getting any sort of punishment?1
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He might end up staying with Everton, if they stay up.palarsehater said:Will richarlison be getting any sort of punishment?7 -
Mendonca In Asdas said:Well done son, bet your mums proud.
I hope one day whoever did that gets a bad case of the shits and when they breath a sigh of relief as they find a toilet they open the door and it's like the above.
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Who put 50p in youaddick1956 said:
Read what you said. That is a stupid dumb statement.....they shouldn't be throwing them but with dumb clicks condoning them whst can you expect .palarsehater said:I don’t think a charlton fan deliberately threw a flare/smoke at disabled supporters
I’m not condoning them i was Simply stating that it wasn’t deliberately thrown at a disabled supporter. It’s not a charlton problem most clubs have these idiots letting them off3 -
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Polite suggestionpalarsehater said:
Who put 50p in youaddick1956 said:
Read what you said. That is a stupid dumb statement.....they shouldn't be throwing them but with dumb clicks condoning them whst can you expect .palarsehater said:I don’t think a charlton fan deliberately threw a flare/smoke at disabled supporters
I’m not condoning them i was Simply stating that it wasn’t deliberately thrown at a disabled supporter. It’s not a charlton problem most clubs have these idiots letting them off
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source;seth plum said:Smashing up the toilets is shameful.
There may also be psychological challenges like Chronic neurotic encopresis.
Chronic neurotic encopresis (CNE), a childhood psychiatric disorder characterized by inappropriate fecal soiling, necessitated the formation of the following specific etiological factors: a) a neurologically immature developmental musculature, an organic condition which may complicate toilet training; b) premature or harsh toilet training; c) a family constellation in which the father is frequently absent and the mother erratic, emotionally inappropriate, and distant; d) the child's formation of a noncommunicative, passive, dependent personality. All of these factors are helpful in explaining the occurrence of CNE, which is thus seen as the result of a synergistic interaction among them. The complexity of etiological agents dictates a multifactorial rather than unicausal model of mental illness. Future research and tactics of psychotherapeutic intervention should focus on the interplay among these factors rather than attempting to single out one primary predisposing factor.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/670958/#:~:text=Chronic neurotic encopresis (CNE),,toilet training; b) premature or
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Yep.
That was the source.1 -
Arseholes, where are you supposed to have a sniff in there?Mendonca In Asdas said:Well done son, bet your mums proud.6 -
What goes around comes around0
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shirty5 said:What goes around comes around the u bend
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I have no words to describe the brain dead fcuks that do these things. Apart from those words of course.0
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A lad got a five year banning order after throwing on of these items at Gillingham.
No sympathy for any numb skills who gets caught
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What’s especially worrying is that the morons that do such things don’t just turn into fuckwits when watching Charlton. They are out and about amongst us all the time. The thought about what else they find amusing to get up to is frightening.0
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The fans in the pub garden slaughtering absolutely anyone who walked across the bridge was pretty strange as well. Even found myself on the end of about 20 Charlton fans chanting “you fat bastard” for no reason.Some people must have very little happiness in their lives to think the best way to fill a void is to vandalise toilets and abuse anyone in sight. But it’s been a bit of a theme with a portion of our away support this season.
A small minority by the way - 95% of our supporters are absolutely top class, and gave the team more than enough backing yesterday - even when 4-0 down.0 -
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Definitely. How can you expect to have fun at away games if you’re not doing at least one of those things?Mendonca In Asdas said:I’ve never really understood the appeal of smashing up toilets and chucking smoke bombs , am I missing out?0 -
Yep, our fans suffer because it's conveniences laid on for us, then our club suffers because the club has to foot the bill. Whoever smashed up the lavs are absolute fucking cretins.se9addick said:
Pretty sure our club get billed for any damage as well, so it’s only hurting us - doubt the home team care.Lordflashheart said:
As @oohaahmortimer said above - the knob head element we have at away games has been growing - this predates Covid - I love it when we create a good atmosphere away, chanting etc, but the smoke bombs, smashing toilets, general yobbish behaviour, a fair few coked up people, this needs driving outse9addick said:
Right, but at the very least they were reckless as to where it landed and, when there are disabled supporters/kids around it’s proper dickhead behaviour to be that reckless.palarsehater said:I don’t think a charlton fan deliberately threw a flare/smoke at disabled supporters
We have / had a good reputation as a decent club and decent fans, but we will lose that if this behaviour continues and gets worse
I know all clubs have supporters who are like this, but ours is growing - I mean what on earth is the point of smashing up the toilets when Charlton are getting tonked - indeed smashing up toilets at all, in any circumstances in any situation1 -
It also results in moved kick off times etc I can’t see Pompey being a 3pm on a Saturday again. The singing about Steven Wright killing peoples mums was ott also0
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It’s a handful of away games, usually where we have a large following.addick1956 said:The behaviour of our fanscatcaway matches has been getting worse each season for a while now. I can't recall visitors to the Valley being so bad. Who else sings that repulsive 'Family song ' as well. Nobody , just the awful people we attract.Leeds are the most usual suspects when you speak to stewards about who’s the worst.I don’t agree it’s getting worse after playing palace there was front page in local papers looking for it people.0 -
Please tell me you have only recently been following Charlton.
If not, what did you witness 30+ years ago?1 -
The FA, Premier League and EFL are together introducing new measures and stronger sanctions across the game to tackle the increased anti-social and criminal behaviours recently seen within football grounds and underline the importance of a safe matchday environment.
The new set of actions, which will be implemented across all English football leagues from the start of Season 2022/23 and backed by the Football Supporters’ Association, will target activity such as entering the pitch without permission, carrying or using smoke bombs or pyrotechnics and throwing objects - as well as drug use and discriminatory behaviour.
These acts are dangerous, illegal and have severe consequences. They have no place in football, or anywhere.
From the start of Season 2022/23, all identified offenders will be reported by clubs to the police and prosecution could result in a permanent criminal record, which may affect their employment and education, and could result in a prison sentence. The FA will also be enforcing a tougher charging and sanctioning policy for clubs, which will reinforce these measures.
Furthermore, anyone who enters the pitch and those identified carrying or using pyrotechnics or smoke bombs will now receive an automatic club ban. These bans could also be extended to accompanying parents or guardians of children who take part in these activities.
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Broadly speaking good news but not in favour of automatic bans.
It takes away any discretion from clubs and takes no account of the circumstances.
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Phew.........I thought this was about getting rid of my 24" bottoms 3 button hole waist collection in my wardrobe.5
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what circumstances do you think would excuse carrying/using pyrotechnics or smoke bombs or entering the field of play?Henry Irving said:Broadly speaking good news but not in favour of automatic bans.
It takes away any discretion from clubs and takes no account of the circumstances.
they're not talking about being forced onto the pitch due to something happening in the stands, they're talking about people deciding to run on.7
