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Outlaw Vocal fry

The subconscious action of lowering speech tone below vocal range, usually to convey a message lucking in conviction due to its gutless conforming nature (very popular in management speak) resulting in gravelly asbestos sounding inaudible shite.
Such an epidemic, it's tragic.
I'm in therapy...
But you!!! 
What do you think..?
Recommission the guillotines? ??


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  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Nope, no idea at all
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,188
    is this a reference to the Nirvana performance of Smells Like Teen Spirit on Top of the Pops when Kurt Cobain sung in a baritone, as recently repeated on BBC4?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    It's mildly irritating.  But vocal speech patterns change over time.  I imagine it will dissipate soon, only to be replaced by something even more grating. 
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    Sounds like someone mumbled something under their breath and this is the fallout from not being told what was said.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    Best wishes with the therapy.
  • Was it a Clint Eastwood movie?
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,705
    Up there with upspeak
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Sounds like someone needs some doom-metal aversion therapy 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Well,                                                                                    !

    There, I've said it.
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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,022
    I believe that "lowering speech tone below vocal range" is a logical impossibility; if it's below vocal range, then it ain't speech. Therefore whatever this thing is that you're talking about, it doesn't exist.
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,705
    Stig said:
    I believe that "lowering speech tone below vocal range" is a logical impossibility; if it's below vocal range, then it ain't speech. Therefore whatever this thing is that you're talking about, it doesn't exist.
    For existence stay tuned
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,783
    The subconscious action of lowering speech tone below vocal range, usually to convey a message lucking in conviction due to its gutless conforming nature (very popular in management speak) resulting in gravelly asbestos sounding inaudible shite.
    Such an epidemic, it's tragic.
    I'm in therapy...
    But you!!! 
    What do you think..?
    Recommission the guillotines? ??


    Que?
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,854
    edited May 2022
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,705
    Which reminds me...
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    Barry shouting from the touchline? 

    Is it a clue from dusty bin ? 
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Lollards?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    is this referring to Tom Waits ?
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    The subconscious action of lowering speech tone below vocal range, usually to convey a message lucking in conviction due to its gutless conforming nature (very popular in management speak) resulting in gravelly asbestos sounding inaudible shite.
    Such an epidemic, it's tragic.
    I'm in therapy...
    But you!!! 
    What do you think..?
    Recommission the guillotines? ??


    Nah,…. It’s gone over my head….. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited May 2022
    Good analogy in the comments of this video… it’s the vocal equivalent of dragging your feet. 

    Most famous person guilty of vocal fry? Probably Kim Kardashian…

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  • I noticed this a few years ago, primarily with young American actresses. 

    I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve, it doesn't sound natural or cool.  I have to switch to sub titles - which admittedly isn't natural or cool either.  :/
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,705
    Good analogy in the comments of this video… it’s the vocal equivalent of dragging your feet. 

    Most famous person guilty of vocal fry? Probably Kim Kardashian…

    Excellent analogy,  and that is why Louis Armstrong and Tom Waits are definitely not in that category. They both don't go below their range, and whatever you think of them, they are not hiding or dragging their feet.
    Some people have gravely voice. I actually like it. But vocal fry reeks of all the ills of post Industrial revolution humanity.

    And gyms too...
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    Lee Marvin would be turning in his grave!
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    I used to work with a woman who did this loads. You knew she was bullshitting as soon as it started. She was a person who bullshitted all the way through her work as far as I could tell. Never gave us anything to work with. Just croaky words.

    Last time I saw her on LinkedIn, she had risen to head of PR for one of the biggest organisations in the UK. 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,022
    Solidgone said:
    Lee Marvin would be turning in his grave!
    I read that as turning in his gravel
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    You want to hear a vocal fry? This is a vocal fry... 

    https://youtu.be/vVDXTFeGYwc
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,022
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,705
    Listen to the ending of every sentence.
    A message with no messenger...
    I am sure that when Hannah Arendt came out with the Phrase:  'The Banality of Evil' this is what she had in mind.

    Never mind Eichmann...


    https://youtu.be/AWdDzrHq8c0
  • Leroy Ambrose
    Leroy Ambrose Posts: 14,436
    edited May 2022