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CAST survey results - Confidence in Thomas Sandgaard declines
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CAST annual survey shows a decline in confidence in Thomas Sandgaard
https://www.castrust.org/2022/05/cast-survey-confidence-in-sandgaard-declines/
https://www.castrust.org/2022/05/cast-survey-confidence-in-sandgaard-declines/
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This doesn’t surprise me at all3
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As soon as he came on the pitch with his guitar I thought he was a preening ninny. And I was very worried what that meant for Charlton.11
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It's just confirming the bleeding obvious.
If the owner says we're going to smash through the league next season (or similar words), it's reasonable to expect that we should be gaining automatic promotion.
The reality was a relegation start with a mid table ending.
You'd be foolish to trust what he says from now on, although he still has my backing.18 -
Well, I guess the alternative is a great thing for some - no Charlton Athletic at all - because ‘shit for brains’ that is what was stampeding over the hill
Over and out18 -
I still think that, in terms of intent and ambition (and having the financial means to support it), he is a great owner for us. He's not here to try and turn The Valley into a block of flats, and he's not got Roland's weird ideas about winning not really being that important.
The execution has been so ham-fisted though. Off the pitch, all the "Fill The Valley" stuff is clearly done with good intentions but it turned into a farce. On the pitch, recruitment has been dreadful, and three consecutive managers have struggled (to differing extents) with a set of players that are nowhere near good enough to challenge for promotion. It seems like he may have been hooked up with the wrong "football people" at the start, and, after paying for their mistakes (such as the appointment of Adkins), he got fed-up listening to so-called experts and decided to sort it out himself, which he clearly doesn't have the expertise to do.
I really feel like all our problems would be solved if he just phoned up Peter Varney and asked for a half-hour assessment of how to run a football club and who he should employ.
Very pleased with the work undertaken to develop the academy. Very unimpressed with the poorly-handled and disrespectful sacking of Jacko, and the bizarre Charlton Women/Ladies thing.35 -
Seeing as you felt it appropriate to LOL my post @iainment, perhaps you should make contact with supporters of Bury FC, and find out how they feel about what happened to their club - no doubt you wouldn’t be LOL’ing their responsesLordflashheart said:Well, I guess the alternative is a great thing for some - no Charlton Athletic at all - because ‘shit for brains’ that is what was stampeding over the hill
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To be expected after the season we have had. He still has the support of the vast majority of fans, and quite rightly so.3
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The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?5 -
Don't we play in the second tier? (Championship)JohnnyH2 said:The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only a game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?
Are you OK with them being pro if so?0 -
The mens team play in the third tier is what I presume Johnny was eluding to.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Don't we play in the second tier? (Championship)JohnnyH2 said:The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only a game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?
Are you OK with them being pro if so?2 - Sponsored links:
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We need to live somewhere within our means. How many of the other 3rd tier clubs have a full time womans team?Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Don't we play in the second tier? (Championship)JohnnyH2 said:The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only a game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?
Are you OK with them being pro if so?
How many of the other 23 3rd tier clubs lose at least £8m a year have a full time womans team.
How many games have supporters have paid full price for this season for the Woman?
I watch fair amount of womans football, but there has to be some realism with this.3 -
Am I confident he has the best of intentions? Yes.
Am I confident he will get it right, on the pitch, eventually? Probably.
Am I confident the current set up he has will work in the short to medium term? Unfortunately not.19 -
We are 3rd tierSiv_in_Norfolk said:
Don't we play in the second tier? (Championship)JohnnyH2 said:The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only a game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?
Are you OK with them being pro if so?0 -
I'm starting to move towards view he wont get it right eventually at all. I do still think he has good intentions up to a point, because having good intentions means also listening to people and taking advice, but if he doesn't then we are bang in trouble.Cafc43v3r said:Am I confident he has the best of intentions? Yes.
Am I confident he will get it right, on the pitch, eventually? Probably.
Am I confident the current set up he has will work in the short to medium term? Unfortunately not.0 -
The honeymoon is over and now the realism is kicking in0
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Ah... I was referring to the Women's team being 2nd tier, which makes it appropriate for them to be pro, as far as I can tellJohnnyH2 said:
We are 3rd tierSiv_in_Norfolk said:
Don't we play in the second tier? (Championship)JohnnyH2 said:The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only a game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?
Are you OK with them being pro if so?
I now get your point about a men's third tier team supporting the cost of a 2nd tier Women's team...
I see it as a smart investment in a fast growing area of sport which will attract more fans for Charlton Athletic in general...
It seems like an obscure thing to be focusing on in the context of all that is going on to me. Is this something you have been focusing on a lot? Do you get much support with it?
Out of interest, how much does the Women's team cost Sangaard?1 -
Declining confidence isn’t the same as saying we don’t want him and aren’t grateful for what he did, so maybe hold fire with the playground insults.Lordflashheart said:Well, I guess the alternative is a great thing for some - no Charlton Athletic at all - because ‘shit for brains’ that is what was stampeding over the hill
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Oh good, another Sandgaard thread. Because we don't have enough of those.6
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The trust ask a handful of questions and this was the biggest negative they got. How is that obscure in the context of what the thread is about?Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Ah... I was referring to the Women's team being 2nd tier, which makes it appropriate for them to be pro, as far as I can tellJohnnyH2 said:
We are 3rd tierSiv_in_Norfolk said:
Don't we play in the second tier? (Championship)JohnnyH2 said:The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only a game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?
Are you OK with them being pro if so?
I now get your point about a men's third tier team supporting the cost of a 2nd tier Women's team...
I see it as a smart investment in a fast growing area of sport which will attract more fans for Charlton Athletic in general...
It seems like an obscure thing to be focusing on in the context of all that is going on to me. Is this something you have been focusing on a lot? Do you get much support with it?
Out of interest, how much does the Women's team cost Sangaard?0 -
I think this is a complete irrelevance right now.It simply has no purpose. It really is a case of glass half full or half empty which ever way but let the guy organise the set up and hope that he has learned some lessons from last season1
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Well he recently said he's stubborn, he does things his way & he's too old to change.UEAAddick said:
I'm starting to move towards view he wont get it right eventually at all. I do still think he has good intentions up to a point, because having good intentions means also listening to people and taking advice, but if he doesn't then we are bang in trouble.Cafc43v3r said:Am I confident he has the best of intentions? Yes.
Am I confident he will get it right, on the pitch, eventually? Probably.
Am I confident the current set up he has will work in the short to medium term? Unfortunately not.
He also said that running a football club is easy, he's a successful business man & doesn't intend employing experienced football people.
Based on that I would say we are bang in trouble.
Once he decides enough is enough what happens then ? What has he got to sell ? Who will buy a Football Club without a ground or training facilities. I would say we are definitely bang in trouble.
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I see very little connection between only 4% of trust members having a keen interest in the women's team and a "declining confidence in Sangaard"JohnnyH2 said:
The trust ask a handful of questions and this was the biggest negative they got. How is that obscure in the context of what the thread is about?Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Ah... I was referring to the Women's team being 2nd tier, which makes it appropriate for them to be pro, as far as I can tellJohnnyH2 said:
We are 3rd tierSiv_in_Norfolk said:
Don't we play in the second tier? (Championship)JohnnyH2 said:The most obvious result in the survey (but will ignored by many) is the 4% who show a genuine interest in the womans team. We are a 3rd division club and yet we have gone full time with a womans team who get average gates in the low hundreds. The only a game at The Valley with a lot of advertising and get a gate of 700.
We should have a womans team but its bonkers we have a full time one.
Will the trust be talking to the club about this?
Are you OK with them being pro if so?
I now get your point about a men's third tier team supporting the cost of a 2nd tier Women's team...
I see it as a smart investment in a fast growing area of sport which will attract more fans for Charlton Athletic in general...
It seems like an obscure thing to be focusing on in the context of all that is going on to me. Is this something you have been focusing on a lot? Do you get much support with it?
Out of interest, how much does the Women's team cost Sangaard?
It's no real surprise that not many supporters of the men's team are interested in the women's and I don't see that lack of interest as a reason for the support to be discontinued or for there to be any negative perception of the owner for providing it. As I say, it seems like like smart investment to me.
And...yeah... this still feels like an obscure line to take in the context of the subject title...2 -
Less than 5 ccomments in. Fuck sakeLordflashheart said:Well, I guess the alternative is a great thing for some - no Charlton Athletic at all - because ‘shit for brains’ that is what was stampeding over the hill
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This man has spent a lot of money to become the custodian of our club and although he made some over ambitious predictions I still feel we will improve over time.
We should be careful not to dampen his enthusiasm.8 -
The longer we stay in this division will dampen his bank account regardless of what we may say about him.Starinnaddick said:This man has spent a lot of money to become the custodian of our club and although he made some over ambitious predictions I still feel we will improve over time.
We should be careful not to dampen his enthusiasm.
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I agree he hasn't been listening to people and doesn't look like he wants too that's why I don't think we can fully say he has shown good intentions yet.charltonbob said:
Well he recently said he's stubborn, he does things his way & he's too old to change.UEAAddick said:
I'm starting to move towards view he wont get it right eventually at all. I do still think he has good intentions up to a point, because having good intentions means also listening to people and taking advice, but if he doesn't then we are bang in trouble.Cafc43v3r said:Am I confident he has the best of intentions? Yes.
Am I confident he will get it right, on the pitch, eventually? Probably.
Am I confident the current set up he has will work in the short to medium term? Unfortunately not.
He also said that running a football club is easy, he's a successful business man & doesn't intend employing experienced football people.
Based on that I would say we are bang in trouble.
Once he decides enough is enough what happens then ? What has he got to sell ? Who will buy a Football Club without a ground or training facilities. I would say we are definitely bang in trouble.0 -
Fuck sake what ????Croydon said:
Less than 5 ccomments in. Fuck sakeLordflashheart said:Well, I guess the alternative is a great thing for some - no Charlton Athletic at all - because ‘shit for brains’ that is what was stampeding over the hill
Over and outNo TS - no CAFC - it’s not a difficult connection to make - we didn’t even know what the EFL had imposed on CAFC in that infamous transfer window when that wanker Southall tried to convince us he was out there trying to sign players - but Chelsea knew - and they quickly pulled one of our best 2 players (the other being Cullen) out of our club - if he had stayed, we would have stayed up - more important than Taylor IMO
But some CAFC fans on this forum are already getting on the back of an owner who has complete credibility and SAVED our club
Honestly - some of you need to get in a Delorean and go back to to 1980’s when Charlton really nearly did disappear forever ……..5 -
I think we will all be in agreement that TS has made mistakes and we expected to be in a better position than we are currently in. The problem is our opinions count for nothing he is here and we either accept that or make it so uncomfortable that he leaves and there are some, not necessarily on here, seem intent on doing just that. Seeing as we tried that with Roland and failed miserably as not only is he still here but it was him who got us in the mess with ESI. Yes there were some who made it very uncomfortable for ESi but they didn't get rid of them it was TS who did that. Now if he were to walk who will take over seeing as Roland still has the assets? My guess is it would be a very dubious character clutching a pound coin in his sweaty mitt.
In conclusion, TS is not perfect, he could and should do better but I really can't see that the alternative would be better, in fact the alternative could destroy our beloved club as it nearly did before TS came along.6 -
You’re definitely struggling with the phrase ‘confidence declines’. I’m glad he bought the club, but I don’t have massive confidence in him any more. You state that he has complete credibility as if it was a fact. He doesn’t.Lordflashheart said:
Fuck sake what ????Croydon said:
Less than 5 ccomments in. Fuck sakeLordflashheart said:Well, I guess the alternative is a great thing for some - no Charlton Athletic at all - because ‘shit for brains’ that is what was stampeding over the hill
Over and outNo TS - no CAFC - it’s not a difficult connection to make - we didn’t even know what the EFL had imposed on CAFC in that infamous transfer window when that wanker Southall tried to convince us he was out there trying to sign players - but Chelsea knew - and they quickly pulled one of our best 2 players (the other being Cullen) out of our club - if he had stayed, we would have stayed up - more important than Taylor IMO
But some CAFC fans on this forum are already getting on the back of an owner who has complete credibility and SAVED our club
Honestly - some of you need to get in a Delorean and go back to to 1980’s when Charlton really nearly did disappear forever ……..8 -
Playground insults !!!Uboat said:
Declining confidence isn’t the same as saying we don’t want him and aren’t grateful for what he did, so maybe hold fire with the playground insults.Lordflashheart said:Well, I guess the alternative is a great thing for some - no Charlton Athletic at all - because ‘shit for brains’ that is what was stampeding over the hill
Over and outIt was reality - we were going down the pan - bust - gone - end of
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