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England Cricket 2022

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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,962
    Very damaging this, in runs and time.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    12:12 finally Jimmy comes on
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,170
    Draw or NZ win
    We won’t chase this 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    got to get them all out first... can see the tail wagging this morning.

  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,457
    Yet again England allow a very damaging last wicket partnership to form
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,015
    Bowl at the stumps with a new ball and he's out.
    Pity we didn't do it 4 overs ago.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,810
    DubaiCAFC said:
    So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?

    Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.

    I'd say

    NZ 50%
    England 40%
    Draw 10%
    Betfair says


    - Draw 47.4%

    - England 34.9%
    - New Zealand 17.7%


    Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.

    Not sure how the draw is so high! This England team isn't going to be batting out for the draw!! This could be an epic day of cricket!!
    DubaiCAFC said:
    So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?

    Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.

    I'd say

    NZ 50%
    England 40%
    Draw 10%
    Betfair says


    - Draw 47.4%

    - England 34.9%
    - New Zealand 17.7%


    Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.

    Not sure how the draw is so high! This England team isn't going to be batting out for the draw!! This could be an epic day of cricket!!
    This.

    The only way a draw will happen is if NZ eat up overs before lunch (not going to happen) and we get to 230 for 4 chasing 280 and have a mini collapse so that we are 8 down going into the last hour with just Anderson & Leach to come in. Then we might see us defend & bat for a draw. 
    I think we have to be careful in thinking that just because this is a new, aggressive, England team under McCullum/Stokes that pragmatism won't come to the fore at some point. There are two influencers here - one is the fact that we are leading 1-0 in what is a three match series and the other is the chances of chasing down 300 plus in the final say 70 overs on a fifth day pitch. Admittedly, for us to be doing that, NZ would have to score another 60 or so runs in approximately 18 overs.

    What if we go two or three down very quickly (it has been known to happen with this side), do we think that England will continue to flash hard? Or settle for the draw? Equally, I recognise that this is only just over 4 an over but that is still easier said than done - teams aren't restricted in terms of the fields that they set or where they bowl the ball as they are in one day cricket and they could have seven or eight on the off side and hang the ball out there without any fear of a wide being called.
    299 off 72 overs is close enough to test the theory
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    two beautiful 4s to start us off! 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,962
    Oh Zak.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,015
    Crawley caught in the slips is just so predictable.

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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,170
    Ok all the best at Kent Zak 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    Crawley suffers the misfortune of having to face Boult rather than Southee
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    With all the runs scored on this pitch, Boult has really stood out.

    Amazing that he came to Lord's straight from the IPL
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,335
    What a bowler, tbh
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Ok all the best at Kent Zak 
    yep needs a couple of CC knocks before the next tes-

    oh wait.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,902
    Crawleys feet are in concrete I am afraid...agree that he has been out to good bowling but he needs to sort himself out in the 4 day game...oh wait a minute 

    I'd bring in Sam Robson who is arguably a better player now 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    Ok all the best at Kent Zak 
    yep needs a couple of CC knocks before the next tes-

    oh wait.
    To be fair, they have tried to put more CC in this time of year. A round at the moment, while Kent then another game on the 26th June, and then 3 games in July.

    The timing isn't great for Zak before the 3rd Test, but ideal for anyone playing in the current round of games
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    edited June 2022
    So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?

    Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.

    I'd say

    NZ 50%
    England 40%
    Draw 10%
    Betfair says


    - Draw 47.4%

    - England 34.9%
    - New Zealand 17.7%


    Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.

    Draw 55.5%

    England 33.3%
    New Zealand 11.2%
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,810
    And that is what Kent have been missing this season. Looking forward to having him back.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    And that is what Kent have been missing this season. Looking forward to having him back.
    Henry channelling past Kent vs Surrey contests
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    All over you’d have thought 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    Going to lose this.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,879
    If Root stays in we win

    On the other hand if we're 43-2 with Root back in the hutch, that target will seem a long way away. Anyone can slog 20-40 runs, but Root uniquely has the ability to score rapidly without slogging.
    That wicket makes a massive change. One of Lees, Bairstow and Stokes now need to step up or else I can see us having to hang on desperately
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,810
    DubaiCAFC said:
    So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?

    Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.

    I'd say

    NZ 50%
    England 40%
    Draw 10%
    Betfair says


    - Draw 47.4%

    - England 34.9%
    - New Zealand 17.7%


    Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.

    Not sure how the draw is so high! This England team isn't going to be batting out for the draw!! This could be an epic day of cricket!!
    DubaiCAFC said:
    So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?

    Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.

    I'd say

    NZ 50%
    England 40%
    Draw 10%
    Betfair says


    - Draw 47.4%

    - England 34.9%
    - New Zealand 17.7%


    Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.

    Not sure how the draw is so high! This England team isn't going to be batting out for the draw!! This could be an epic day of cricket!!
    This.

    The only way a draw will happen is if NZ eat up overs before lunch (not going to happen) and we get to 230 for 4 chasing 280 and have a mini collapse so that we are 8 down going into the last hour with just Anderson & Leach to come in. Then we might see us defend & bat for a draw. 
    I think we have to be careful in thinking that just because this is a new, aggressive, England team under McCullum/Stokes that pragmatism won't come to the fore at some point. There are two influencers here - one is the fact that we are leading 1-0 in what is a three match series and the other is the chances of chasing down 300 plus in the final say 70 overs on a fifth day pitch. Admittedly, for us to be doing that, NZ would have to score another 60 or so runs in approximately 18 overs.

    What if we go two or three down very quickly (it has been known to happen with this side), do we think that England will continue to flash hard? Or settle for the draw? Equally, I recognise that this is only just over 4 an over but that is still easier said than done - teams aren't restricted in terms of the fields that they set or where they bowl the ball as they are in one day cricket and they could have seven or eight on the off side and hang the ball out there without any fear of a wide being called.

    And now comes the test as to whether we carry on, as McCullum/Stokes say they advocate, or consolidate for a while
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Same old England…
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Match situation should be perfect for bairstow… surely? 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    Said we should have held Root back. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,810
    This has been a superb Test wicket and a massive argument against those  promoting the idea of 4 day Tests. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    This is where the run rate drops. Trying to go at 4 an over for 70 overs is asking  some.