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  • NorthStandUltra
    NorthStandUltra Posts: 2,540
    Vince has stepped down as WWE Chairman, Stephanie has stepped up & becomes interim CEO & Chairwoman- interesting times 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,125
    Vince doesn't seem to care going by his Smackdown speech.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited June 2022
    https://www.facebook.com/joshua.durham.16/videos/1103576500234876/

    Not safe for work but made me laugh.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Tim White RIP

    The same week as Dave Hebner :-(

    Both doing the 3 counts in the sky.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    Did Vince simply just have an affair with an ex employee? Or is it an abuse allegation?






  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dave2l said:
    Did Vince simply just have an affair with an ex employee? Or is it an abuse allegation?






    Doubling her salary after she started taking the genetic jackhammer is the real issue.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,438
    edited June 2022
    Someone on the WWE board appears also to have dumped a load of shares the day before they announced the investigation. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Rizzo said:
    Someone on the WWE board appears also to have dumped a load of shares the day before they announced the investigation. 
    Kevin Dunn, but he isn't actually on the board.  Probably wrong, probably not actually illegal. 
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,308

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600


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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    edited June 2022
    I just don’t understand why anyone bothers watching it. Their product has never been more lifeless and boring, which is saying something.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cafctom said:
    I just don’t understand why anyone bothers watching it. Their product has never been more lifeless and boring, which is saying something.
    I haven't watched a full Raw or Smackdown, bar the special SD they did, since I moved house about 6 years ago.

    I was think about this, for reasons best known to myself, earlier.  The SHIELD debuted 10 years ago and ever since 1 of them has been featured on TV, in a main event level.

    Cena, Lesner and Orton all graduated OVW on 2002, 20 years ago.

    To put that into context Hogan's main WWF run was 9 years, Austin's was 8, the Rocks 7, Brett's from dropping the tag title 7, HBK, post rockers, 7.

    There is only so many times you can move the same pieces round the board.

    Cody and Omega are going to be the biggest stars of 2023......
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    Wouldn’t surprise me to see WWE go absolutely all out to try and steal some of AEW’s talent, though I expect quite a few might have re-signed recently as we’re at the 3 year mark. 
  • NorthStandUltra
    NorthStandUltra Posts: 2,540
    cafctom said:
    Wouldn’t surprise me to see WWE go absolutely all out to try and steal some of AEW’s talent, though I expect quite a few might have re-signed recently as we’re at the 3 year mark. 
    Is the MJF stuff a work or will he go to WWE?
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,308
    NorthStandUltra said:
    cafctom said:
    Wouldn’t surprise me to see WWE go absolutely all out to try and steal some of AEW’s talent, though I expect quite a few might have re-signed recently as we’re at the 3 year mark. 
    Is the MJF stuff a work or will he go to WWE?
    It's absolutely a work, but because the guy is so fucking good, he makes it believable 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,374
    Who could they lure over though? A lot of them are deemed "too small" for WWE. (Look at Booker T's comments about Adam Cole for an example)
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    edited June 2022
    NorthStandUltra said:
    cafctom said:
    Wouldn’t surprise me to see WWE go absolutely all out to try and steal some of AEW’s talent, though I expect quite a few might have re-signed recently as we’re at the 3 year mark. 
    Is the MJF stuff a work or will he go to WWE?
    Probably a bit of both - but it’s absolutely compelling.

    I’ve a feeling he might show up at Forbidden Door to disrupt something.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    edited June 2022
    sam3110 said:
    Who could they lure over though? A lot of them are deemed "too small" for WWE. (Look at Booker T's comments about Adam Cole for an example)
    I think there are quite a few they’d be interested in for different reasons.

    Wardlow, Jade Cargill, Britt Baker all spring to mind. 

    Then you have the likes of Chris Jericho, Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose who they’d love to have just for the nostalgia pop if anything.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cafctom said:
    sam3110 said:
    Who could they lure over though? A lot of them are deemed "too small" for WWE. (Look at Booker T's comments about Adam Cole for an example)
    I think there are quite a few they’d be interested in for different reasons.

    Wardlow, Jade Cargill, Britt Baker all spring to mind. 

    Then you have the likes of Chris Jericho, Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose who they’d love to have just for the nostalgia pop if anything.
    I think Jericho will go back for no other reason than going I'm the HOF.

    Wardlow has main event at wrestle mania vibs.  Although he has a bit of the Sids as well, what do you do once you beat him?

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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    edited June 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    cafctom said:
    sam3110 said:
    Who could they lure over though? A lot of them are deemed "too small" for WWE. (Look at Booker T's comments about Adam Cole for an example)
    I think there are quite a few they’d be interested in for different reasons.

    Wardlow, Jade Cargill, Britt Baker all spring to mind. 

    Then you have the likes of Chris Jericho, Jon Moxley/Dean Ambrose who they’d love to have just for the nostalgia pop if anything.
    I think Jericho will go back for no other reason than going I'm the HOF.

    Wardlow has main event at wrestle mania vibs.  Although he has a bit of the Sids as well, what do you do once you beat him?
    I thought the same about Wardlow once he got beat by Cody in the cage match a couple of years ago, but they found a way to build him back up.

    The storyline they have done with MJF is right out of the WWE playbook. Have him as hired muscle for a heel, who after a while gets sick of it, turns face and gets momentum with the crowd etc.

    WWE could run it just how they did with Batista during his first major push to Wrestlemania. Only thing with Wardlow is I’m not completely sold on his mic skills, and also the fact that I don’t think WWE have a good enough heel to pair him with. He’d probably end up with Happy Corbin.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I have just watched the freshly squeezed 6 man from last week.

    I can't decide if it was a total cluster fuck or actually quite good.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,374
    Reading reports of Forbidden Door and it sounds like a hoot for the most part. Anyone watched any of it yet?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    Reading reports of Forbidden Door and it sounds like a hoot for the most part. Anyone watched any of it yet?
    No, but I will.  More out of curiosity than anything else.  

    Anyone else notice that since AEW have stopped using all the "outlaw mudshow" guys and started using "highly trained professional athletes", they have all got injured!!
  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,292
    sam3110 said:
    Reading reports of Forbidden Door and it sounds like a hoot for the most part. Anyone watched any of it yet?
    Ospreay vs Cassidy is match of the night

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,374
    cafcwill said:
    sam3110 said:
    Reading reports of Forbidden Door and it sounds like a hoot for the most part. Anyone watched any of it yet?
    Ospreay vs Cassidy is match of the night

    Cassidy is a lot better than people give him credit for. He's a goof but he's a fantastic "ultimate underdog" that has a chance to pull off an upset in matches like this if people don't take him seriously 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    cafcwill said:
    sam3110 said:
    Reading reports of Forbidden Door and it sounds like a hoot for the most part. Anyone watched any of it yet?
    Ospreay vs Cassidy is match of the night

    Cassidy is a lot better than people give him credit for. He's a goof but he's a fantastic "ultimate underdog" that has a chance to pull off an upset in matches like this if people don't take him seriously 
    Better at what?  He is an incredible athlete.

    It's not so much him I have problem with.  Last week on dynamite two 260+ plus pound people sold him putting his hands in the air and then in his pockets like they were HHH when mankind took his mask off.  Then let him kick them in the shins, twice.  Why didn't they just flatten him?

    You can't be the ultimate underdog if you need people to not take you seriously.  Suspend belief, of course, but you need to be somewhat serious, don't you?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,374
    Cafc43v3r said:
    sam3110 said:
    cafcwill said:
    sam3110 said:
    Reading reports of Forbidden Door and it sounds like a hoot for the most part. Anyone watched any of it yet?
    Ospreay vs Cassidy is match of the night

    Cassidy is a lot better than people give him credit for. He's a goof but he's a fantastic "ultimate underdog" that has a chance to pull off an upset in matches like this if people don't take him seriously 
    Better at what?  He is an incredible athlete.

    It's not so much him I have problem with.  Last week on dynamite two 260+ plus pound people sold him putting his hands in the air and then in his pockets like they were HHH when mankind took his mask off.  Then let him kick them in the shins, twice.  Why didn't they just flatten him?

    You can't be the ultimate underdog if you need people to not take you seriously.  Suspend belief, of course, but you need to be somewhat serious, don't you?
    If you watch the Ospreay match, Taz talks about it a lot, the kicks and the hands in pockets aren't about trying to hurt the opponent, it's mind games. He lures them into thinking he doesn't care about the match, he's taking the piss out of them, and then when they snap he uses their aggression against them, usually in reversals and pin attempts. As a "story" being told within matchups, it's actually pretty clever. I mean he's better as in people make him out to be a pure comedy act, but he's not Santino Marella/Vito in a freaking dress. I can't see them putting the big belt on him, but the TNT/TBS title or the All Atlantic Championship, I can see them pulling the trigger on him winning one of those at some point
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,125
    The fact no one sells the shin kicks bar the fans means it gets a pass from me. Loads of times the opponent just stares bewildering before attacking him. I think it was PAC who landed a larriet on him straight afterwards.

    He's admitted in a shoot that he'll never be the most technical, best high flyer or strongest so made this gimmick, which if anything is original and IMO over. Also has the best entrance song in wrestling.

    AEW definitely has too many titles IMO.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,308
    Watched raw last night for the first time in months.   It really is dreadful 

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