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Charlton Athletic vs Pre-Season Friendlies | Preview & Match Threads (Welling p59, Swansea p67 )
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wmcf123 said:I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
That would be crazy and depressing and that can't be the plan if we really have ambitions but nothing would surprise me any more after the transfer of Mason Burstow after a handful of games.
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I know that’s why I mentioned it!!! It’s silly I know but it really annoys me!!!🤣…. Especially being third division!!😂,,, I got some popaballs , lovely snack.Callumcafc said:
Every club does it nowadays... Kloppball, Bielsaball, Potterball, Gerrardball... just a few off the top of my head.paulfox said:Not having a go at anyone, but is it just me that cringes a little at this’Garnerball’ analogy? Just sounds like it should be something revolutionary but isn’t. It’s just footie isn’t it? Maybe I’m too old school and not down with the kool Katz!!1 -
McGrandles was signed for reasons that will apparently will become clear, is what I was told.wmcf123 said:
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m onlymattinfinland said:
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.wmcf123 said:I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson
My guess is that 1 or 2 things that were expected to happen haven't, as yet happened. Or something has happened that wasn't expected.
We were first in for him in March and it was close to being finished when Jackson was still here. It then needed Garner's sign off.
It's a really funny signing because now we have got Payne I am not sure if he has a case for being first choice in any of the positions or combinations.
Maybe he will be the Paul Haynes of 2022?2 -
Not sure why so many seem to think two of the front three should be wingers. You need an out & out striker but basically you need three front runners who can inter switch & you would hope are all capable of scoring goals. Given that sandgaard has decided that we will play a high pressing game it wouldn't surprise me if Jack Payne has been brought in to play in a front three. High energy player with an eye for goal he could possibly do a job up front & certainly couldn't do worse than Kirk who I don't see as a starter.FishCostaFortune said:
Absolute no slight on his talent and I hope we get to see more of him this year, but if we’re going into next season with Leaburn as first choice winger I’d be worried.Callumcafc said:So the team tomorrow then… if it’s a straight split down the middle.
Wollacott
Clare
Inniss
O’Connell
Sessegnon
McGrandles
Fraser
Payne
Blackett-Taylor
Stockley
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Cafc43v3r said:
McGrandles was signed for reasons that will apparently will become clear, is what I was told.wmcf123 said:
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m onlymattinfinland said:
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.wmcf123 said:I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson
My guess is that 1 or 2 things that were expected to happen haven't, as yet happened. Or something has happened that wasn't expected.
We were first in for him in March and it was close to being finished when Jackson was still here. It then needed Garner's sign off.
It's a really funny signing because now we have got Payne I am not sure if he has a case for being first choice in any of the positions or combinations.
Maybe he will be the Paul Haynes of 2022?
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And not forgetting the departure of Washington-The lunatics still running the asylum at CharltonDDOUBLEE said:
We needed one when Davison was still at the club, that's one striker gone, and another injured. Surely we'll bring someone in, SURELYSouthbank said:Anybody STILL arguing we don't need another striker? Aneke will never be a reliable second striker, he just can't stay fit.1 -
If only you could be running things......paulg1947 said:
And not forgetting the departure of Washington-The lunatics still running the asylum at CharltonDDOUBLEE said:
We needed one when Davison was still at the club, that's one striker gone, and another injured. Surely we'll bring someone in, SURELYSouthbank said:Anybody STILL arguing we don't need another striker? Aneke will never be a reliable second striker, he just can't stay fit.0 -
Think McGrandles said he would not be playing the DM here when he first signed.wmcf123 said:
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m onlymattinfinland said:
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.wmcf123 said:I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson6 -
Did he not say that he thinks he’s better further forward? Anyway , I hope Dobson stays but playing him last night rather than against a team that will likely have a lot more of the ball seems baffling if he’s going to be around for all of next season.balham red said:
Think McGrandles said he would not be playing the DM here when he first signed.wmcf123 said:
You may well, of course , be right ; I’m onlymattinfinland said:
I am not sure this team was put out to be those being transfer listed or (team2) I think there was to many players who I would have been expecting to be around the first team involved to be honest.wmcf123 said:I wonder if they are expecting Dobson to leave and they are planning for life without him , hence the appearance tonight in the seconds.
I know it was only Welling but there was still an opportunity for players today to show what they have to offer. I agree with what some others have said about the team, I still do not think Ben Garner knows his starting 11 yet. And we will discover that against Accrington
going by the old fashioned view that your first 11 might play together in pre season. But I’ve always assumed McGrandles was signed to replace Dobson
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I agree, although I think it was partially because he was Lavelle and Ness for most of the game according to Terry 😂 (said with much love as I really enjoy his commentary)RedJohn said:Thought Ness looked very good today, interesting that BG moved him to CB and put Elerewere RB.0 -
It’s strange that people constantly call for us to sign players for competition and then as soon as we do are convinced it’s because that player must be leaving! It’s a squad game now. 7 players on the bench with 5 subs.
I enjoyed lots of that, thought the midfield caught the eye, Gilbey especially.
I am still a bit worried about our lack of depth in full back areas.9 -
Glad I'm not the only one baffled by yesterday's team selection. It's more important that we're competitive against Swansea and with respect to Welling, they're easier to put out a competitive team against.killerandflash said:
I find that hard to believe. Why would you play your first choice midfield against part time Welling, rather than against Championship opponents, and really get them sharp?Henry Irving said:The talk at the Valley today was that this midfield add attack tonight v Welling pus the defence and GK v Swansea will be the starting line up v Accrington.
Tomorrow will be a massively harder defensive task, and you want to see how your midfield copes.0 -
It’s probably already been mentioned but I cba to read the whole thread. Why wasn’t this played at Welling in front of a crowd?0
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Payne and Mcgrandles haven’t been signed to sit on the bench and Fraser will be a big player for us so I think they will all be starting against Accrington maybe Dobson just doesn’t suit Garners style but with the 5 subs everyone will be getting a chance, enjoyed the game last night I thought Ness and Clayden played very well and gives Garner another choice.Ferryman said:
Glad I'm not the only one baffled by yesterday's team selection. It's more important that we're competitive against Swansea and with respect to Welling, they're easier to put out a competitive team against.killerandflash said:
I find that hard to believe. Why would you play your first choice midfield against part time Welling, rather than against Championship opponents, and really get them sharp?Henry Irving said:The talk at the Valley today was that this midfield add attack tonight v Welling pus the defence and GK v Swansea will be the starting line up v Accrington.
Tomorrow will be a massively harder defensive task, and you want to see how your midfield copes.2 -
Because Welling are having work done @ Park View Road, they had to cancel all home friendlies.JaShea99 said:It’s probably already been mentioned but I cba to read the whole thread. Why wasn’t this played at Welling in front of a crowd?4 -
I would imagine that because George Dobson missed a friendly recently Garner didn't feel he was up to chasing shadows against Swansea so played in the easier game yesterday to get more minutes in his legs.
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Looking forward to getting down the Valley against a good team, see some new players, don't have to see some faces we have released and enjoy the sun.0
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It was a fascinating watch yesterday evening.
I thought Elewere looked out of sorts and put it down to being on the right, but he went off at half time so maybe it was something other than positioning that was dragging him down.
Whether anybody thought an individual player was any good or any bad a lot of them were decently consistent throughout the game.
JFC was very good despite the goals from Gilbey who himself had a nice second half.
I am glad a slightly larger Charlton audience got to see young Richard Chinn.5 -
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Last minute decision to pop down today. On hols for the first two weeks of August so need to get a hit in.1
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Had to miss game last night so highlights were my first impression. Seems both were quite heavily involved in our best chances, DJ especially first half and Kirk second. Purely on those highlights you'd have to say DJ shaded it because of that cross onto Chuks' bonce first half, and his goal.Leuth said:
Well you clearly saw the game through a blindfold if you think Kirk offered more than DJ in it. Let's wait for the highlights package, shall we, count how many times each gets involved?mart77 said:
Funny how people see games, I think Kirk offered more than DJ and find DJ far more frustrating. That said it’s Welling in a bcd friendly so it means v v little!john3 said:Really don't know what Kirk does , he can't take players on or won't, hasn't got the pace to play as a winger; Claydon has loads more pace, takes players on, can deliver a good cross,and tracks back and puts a tackle in.
Some good goals, JFC looked good, Gilbey was good, Ness was tidy, DJ was good.
Mcgillvery still worries me as do our defence when we start passing it around at the back under pressure.
I know it's only a friendly but I don't see any improvement in Kirk, not a fan at the moment.1 -
Can't believe how many chances we wasted. Yes I know it's only a pre season work out but we should be hitting the target.clive said:1 -
Surely in pre season it’s just a good sign we’re creating those chances? Sharpness in finishing will come if we can create.charltonbob said:
Can't believe how many chances we wasted. Yes I know it's only a pre season work out but we should be hitting the target.clive said:6 -
This. Scoring goals is a habit and comes naturally once a striker gets going and his confidence/arrogance has been kick started. Creating chances is down to hard workRC_CAFC said:
Surely in pre season it’s just a good sign we’re creating those chances? Sharpness in finishing will come if we can create.charltonbob said:
Can't believe how many chances we wasted. Yes I know it's only a pre season work out but we should be hitting the target.clive said:1 -
I assume you can buy tickets before the game at ticket office, as they’re no longer available online.0
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L to R, based on pre season squad numbers:
Gilbey,
Wollacott,
Leaburn,
Clare,
Inniss,
X (23? CBT?)
X (21? Fraser?),
19 (Payne?),
McGrandles,
X (10? Morgan?),
Stockley,
O’Connell,
Sessegnon3 -
Only one mirror on the wall…no wonder we never kick off on time, they probably have to line up to check themselves out before they leave the dressing roomScoham said:
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Can you buy tickets at the ground? You can’t buy online anymore0
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