Charlton Athletic vs Pre-Season Friendlies | Preview & Match Threads (Welling p59, Swansea p67 )

Southbank

thenewbie said:

Southbank said:

Anybody STILL arguing we don't need another striker? Aneke will never be a reliable second striker, he just can't stay fit.

Was anyone ever actually arguing that in the first place?!

Yes.Saying that CBT and Kirk can become goalscorers and we don't need another goalscoring forward.

killerandflash

Henry Irving said:

The talk at the Valley today was that this midfield add attack tonight v Welling pus the defence and GK v Swansea will be the starting line up v Accrington.

I find that hard to believe. Why would you play your first choice midfield against part time Welling, rather than against Championship opponents, and really get them sharp?

Tomorrow will be a massively harder defensive task, and you want to see how your midfield copes.

Southbank

You can se that Kanu has a real goalscorer's instinct to be in the right place. Hope he continues to develop.

mendonca

Aneke injured or just the usual hobble off when times up?

Jac_52

Richard Chin is like the second coming of Maatsen

mendonca

Jac_52 said:

Richard Chin is like the second coming of Maatsen

Chin is very energetic!

king addick

Jac_52 said:

Richard Chin is like the second coming of Maatsen

Was thinking how confident he looked. Could be another gem unearthed.

FishCostaFortune

Kanu denying Gilberto his hat trick 😂

Leuth

I gotta say, should we really be letting JFC go quite so easily? He's rather good 

killerandflash

Poor effort by Kanu. Cristiano Gilbey would have buried it.

Scoham

Jac_52 said:

Richard Chin is like the second coming of Maatsen

Has something about him, maybe one to spend some time out on loan and work toward challenging for that right back spot.

Jac_52

Leuth said:

I gotta say, should we really be letting JFC go quite so easily? He's rather good 

Obviously we shouldn't and especially not to a team in our league.

SouthWest_Addicks

MOTM Gilbey. Kind of performance that you tell your grandchildren about. 

Scoham

Leuth said:

I gotta say, should we really be letting JFC go quite so easily? He's rather good 

Maybe if freeing up his wages means we can better strengthen other positions. 

MuttleyCAFC

I forgot about this game. I do believe Gilbey has the game to have goals in him. Glad he is showing it. Pisses me off when people slag him off when I think he has a lot to offer us.

SoundAsa£

CAFCsayer said:

Leuth said:

That Fraser-Morgan-Payne midfield exactly the one I said I'd prefer a few days ago btw 

That midfield gets absolutely bullied by some of the cloggers in this league 

Are you aware that Payne made the third highest amount of tackles in L2 last season?

AndyG

MuttleyCAFC said:

I forgot about this game. I do believe Gilbey has the game to have goals in him. Glad he is showing it. Pisses me off when people slag him off when I think he has a lot to offer us.

Muttley meet Lueth... 3,2,1. Start lol

john3

Really don't know what Kirk does , he can't take players on or won't, hasn't got the pace to play as a winger; Claydon has loads more pace, takes players on, can deliver a good cross,and tracks back and puts a tackle in.
   Some good goals, JFC looked good, Gilbey was good, Ness was tidy, DJ was good.
  Mcgillvery still worries me as do our defence when we start passing it around at the back under pressure.
   I know it's only a friendly but I don't see any improvement in Kirk, not a fan at the moment.

Crusty54

Scoham said:

Charles “not a left back” Clayden drills in a cross for DJ to make it 3-0

He proved he's a left winger.

Cafc43v3r

Leuth said:

I gotta say, should we really be letting JFC go quite so easily? He's rather good 

We aren't. 

Chunes

MuttleyCAFC said:

I forgot about this game. I do believe Gilbey has the game to have goals in him. Glad he is showing it. Pisses me off when people slag him off when I think he has a lot to offer us.

He's deserved the criticism, he's been shit for two seasons! 

seth plum

john3 said:

Really don't know what Kirk does , he can't take players on or won't, hasn't got the pace to play as a winger; Claydon has loads more pace, takes players on, can deliver a good cross,and tracks back and puts a tackle in.
   Some good goals, JFC looked good, Gilbey was good, Ness was tidy, DJ was good.
  Mcgillvery still worries me as do our defence when we start passing it around at the back under pressure.
   I know it's only a friendly but I don't see any improvement in Kirk, not a fan at the moment.

He seems to mainly hang around in a slightly appealing way. Like that old tin of boiled sweets tried once and then left in the glove compartment.
Upon eventual investigation you find a kind of sticky slightly mushy challenge stuck to the sides of said tin.

mart77

john3 said:

Really don't know what Kirk does , he can't take players on or won't, hasn't got the pace to play as a winger; Claydon has loads more pace, takes players on, can deliver a good cross,and tracks back and puts a tackle in.
   Some good goals, JFC looked good, Gilbey was good, Ness was tidy, DJ was good.
  Mcgillvery still worries me as do our defence when we start passing it around at the back under pressure.
   I know it's only a friendly but I don't see any improvement in Kirk, not a fan at the moment.

Funny how people see games, I think Kirk offered more than DJ and find DJ far more frustrating. That said it’s Welling in a bcd friendly so it means v v little!

Cafc43v3r

SoundAsa£ said:

CAFCsayer said:

Leuth said:

That Fraser-Morgan-Payne midfield exactly the one I said I'd prefer a few days ago btw 

That midfield gets absolutely bullied by some of the cloggers in this league 

Are you aware that Payne made the third highest amount of tackles in L2 last season?

The one who plays for Crawley did...... 

According to Who Scored anyway. 

Glosfan

First pre-season game I've watched.  There was some decent football played; Gilbey looked good as did Dobson and JFC. Don't see what Kirk offers, seems lightweight and a little disinterested. Ness looks assured and was impressed with cameos by Chin and Kanu. Pity about Aneke, because he was looking strong...at least I got to see him before he is out for the season. 

paulfox

seth plum said:

john3 said:

Really don't know what Kirk does , he can't take players on or won't, hasn't got the pace to play as a winger; Claydon has loads more pace, takes players on, can deliver a good cross,and tracks back and puts a tackle in.
   Some good goals, JFC looked good, Gilbey was good, Ness was tidy, DJ was good.
  Mcgillvery still worries me as do our defence when we start passing it around at the back under pressure.
   I know it's only a friendly but I don't see any improvement in Kirk, not a fan at the moment.

He seems to mainly hang around in a slightly appealing way. Like that old tin of boiled sweets tried once and then left in the glove compartment.
Upon eventual investigation you find a kind of sticky slightly mushy challenge stuck to the sides of said tin.

Sounds slightly akin to my custard exploits!!😂

MuttleyCAFC

Chunes said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I forgot about this game. I do believe Gilbey has the game to have goals in him. Glad he is showing it. Pisses me off when people slag him off when I think he has a lot to offer us.

He's deserved the criticism, he's been shit for two seasons! 

But it feels to me like some are criticisng now when he plays well. That is not right. If he has a poor game, call it. If he is ok or has a good game call that too. I am convinced he can get goals and we need goals with the tactics we are employing, which I am not sure about in all honesty. Not the tactics per se, but whether they play to our strengths.

JamesSeed

MuttleyCAFC said:

I forgot about this game. I do believe Gilbey has the game to have goals in him. Glad he is showing it. Pisses me off when people slag him off when I think he has a lot to offer us.

Pretty sure he's been frustrated with his own form since he joined us.
Good to see him having a decent run out today though.
Thought the game was ok, although I missed the first eight minutes of the second half i.e. the goals.

Scoham

MuttleyCAFC said:

Chunes said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I forgot about this game. I do believe Gilbey has the game to have goals in him. Glad he is showing it. Pisses me off when people slag him off when I think he has a lot to offer us.

He's deserved the criticism, he's been shit for two seasons! 

But it feels to me like some are criticisng now when he plays well. That is not right. If he has a poor game, call it. If he is ok or has a good game call that too. I am convinced he can get goals and we need goals with the tactics we are employing, which I am not sure about in all honesty. Not the tactics per se, but whether they play to our strengths.

Those tactics got 2 goals out of Gilbey and another day he could have scored 3 or 4

JamesSeed

mart77 said:

john3 said:

Really don't know what Kirk does , he can't take players on or won't, hasn't got the pace to play as a winger; Claydon has loads more pace, takes players on, can deliver a good cross,and tracks back and puts a tackle in.
   Some good goals, JFC looked good, Gilbey was good, Ness was tidy, DJ was good.
  Mcgillvery still worries me as do our defence when we start passing it around at the back under pressure.
   I know it's only a friendly but I don't see any improvement in Kirk, not a fan at the moment.

Funny how people see games, I think Kirk offered more than DJ and find DJ far more frustrating. That said it’s Welling in a bcd friendly so it means v v little!

Agreed.