Keep asking as many questions as you like @swordfish - posters on here are very willing to share their knowledge. And, in any case, you only have a few more weeks to learn all the laws off by heart, because there are ten laws that are going to change on 1 October!
Oh No, as if I wasn't confused enough already getting used to the fact that incoming batters have to face the strike in the Hundred even when the batters have crossed.
Oh No, as if I wasn't confused enough already getting used to the fact that incoming batters have to face the strike in the Hundred even when the batters have crossed.
Keep asking as many questions as you like @swordfish - posters on here are very willing to share their knowledge. And, in any case, you only have a few more weeks to learn all the laws off by heart, because there are ten laws that are going to change on 1 October!
Oh No, as if I wasn't confused enough already getting used to the fact that incoming batters have to face the strike in the Hundred even when the batters have crossed.
From October the incoming batsman will face the next ball in all forms of cricket unless, of course, the dismissal occurred off the final ball of the over.
An interesting article on how much the Test cricket means to the welfare of cricket in this country when compared to the Hundred:
It is difficult to over exaggerate how much English cricket relies on Test cricket financially. Perhaps as much as two-thirds of the ECB’s total domestic income comes from the six or seven red ball internationals played every summer. The ticket sales alone for a home Ashes series draws in almost as much income as the entire Hundred (Including TV rights, sponsors, and 34/35 ‘full’ grounds) in a year.
Which is what makes it so surprising that the ECB seems intent on prioritising a competition which is losing money, and seems certain to continue losing money for the next six years without significant changes, to the detriment of their proverbial golden goose.
It has been said repeatedly by supporters of The Hundred that it is vital for the competition is played in August, since more children will be able to attend games or watch them on TV than at any other time of the year. This may be fair enough as an argument if your sole priority is the long term health of this one competition, but it is baffling in the context of English cricket as a whole.
Given that the ECB (and therefore the counties also) are so financially reliant on Test cricket, it would seem like a sensible measure to ensure that as many children as possible were able to watch it on TV, to become the next generation of fans (and, more cynically, customers). Instead, the ECB has chosen to do the opposite.
There is also the matter of attendance. The T20 Blast was shifted from primarily being in August in 2019 to June in 2022, and this appeared to cause a 23% decline in ticket sales. Given the high demand and high price for Test tickets in England, a similar fall in sales might cost the ECB several million pounds every year.
It should be said, in fairness to Tom Harrison and others at the ECB, that they acknowledge the reliance that English cricket has on a handful of Test matches every season. It was a key goal of The Hundred to become a second source of income for the game, to act as a safety net in the event that the commercial viability of the red ball game declined. That is not an unlikely scenario, not least because clowns like Harrison have been in charge of English Test cricket for a long time.
The initial indications from The Hundred this year don’t seem to indicate that the competition deserves this extraordinary level of support from the ECB. Viewing figures on the BBC appear to be almost half what they were in 2021, suggesting very little interest from the wider public. And, to be clear, this is before the men’s Test series against South Africa has begun. Moving next year’s Ashes to a less favourable slot in the calendar wouldn’t obviously have any positive effect on The Hundred, but could have a severe negative impact on the number of people watching the Tests.
Cricket Australia hosts both a T20 competition and their Test series at the same time, with no obvious harm to either. The idea that it is necessary to sacrifice England internationals in order to ensure the growth and popularity of The Hundred is blatantly false. The whole exercise stinks of some worried executives throwing every possible resource behind a project they are publicly considered responsible for, or perhaps have bonuses linked to the success of, not caring about the wider damage it will cause the organisation and people they are supposed to represent.
The ECB is insulated somewhat from the consequences of their actions, at least for a while. A new Sky TV deal has already been agreed which offers them a similar guaranteed income over the next six years, albeit one that will likely be worth a lot less over time due to high inflation in the UK. The problem will come when they look to negotiate the next contract, from 2029 onwards. If interest in the longest format is diminished, and by extension its commercial worth, then it would lead to a significant devaluation in what Sky and their competitors thought the rights are worth paying for. That would be catastrophic for the ECB, and particularly the counties.
One thing which is really annoying about the Hundred is the TV graphics showing the score. The least bad part is garish colours - it's the layout which is appalling. Makes it very difficult to work out what the score is with the wickets so far from runs scored and a lack of clarity between runs scored and balls gone
most 'annoying' for me is the number of antipodean/saffi commentators .. their screaming adulation does get too much after a while .. concentrate more on where the ball is hit and who fielded, ;less concern with the 'batters' power/prowess', we take that as writ .. take a leaf from the superb US baseball callers, a more rounded commentary please and more English pundits
KP is the worst - terrible pundit. Have to turn the volume off when he’s on
Close finish in the women's Trockets / Invincibles match, but shows how misleading stats can be as the latter coasted to victory.
Alana King bowled 10 dot balls in a row, a hundred record & well played her, but Marizanne Kapp was under no scoreboard pressure and decided not to attack her, only because she wasn't bowling pies and didn't need to.
What struck me about last night's matches was the engagement of the crowd and how (surprisingly) knowledgeable they were. Successive dot balls being greeted by increasingly louder cheers was one thing I wasn't expecting.
The Hundred doesn't seem only to be bringing in new fans, but it's helping to enlighten them too.
One thing which is really annoying about the Hundred is the TV graphics showing the score. The least bad part is garish colours - it's the layout which is appalling. Makes it very difficult to work out what the score is with the wickets so far from runs scored and a lack of clarity between runs scored and balls gone
most 'annoying' for me is the number of antipodean/saffi commentators .. their screaming adulation does get too much after a while .. concentrate more on where the ball is hit and who fielded, ;less concern with the 'batters' power/prowess', we take that as writ .. take a leaf from the superb US baseball callers, a more rounded commentary please and more English pundits
KP is the worst - terrible pundit. Have to turn the volume off when he’s on
"that's the thing about taaaking the volume awf, what you've got to do is pick up the remote - point it at the screen THEN you push the mute button, THEN you switch the volume awf- not before. You don't want to get into a situation where you're muting it without even picking up the remote." - KP commenting every day things like he does the cricket.
One thing which is really annoying about the Hundred is the TV graphics showing the score. The least bad part is garish colours - it's the layout which is appalling. Makes it very difficult to work out what the score is with the wickets so far from runs scored and a lack of clarity between runs scored and balls gone
most 'annoying' for me is the number of antipodean/saffi commentators .. their screaming adulation does get too much after a while .. concentrate more on where the ball is hit and who fielded, ;less concern with the 'batters' power/prowess', we take that as writ .. take a leaf from the superb US baseball callers, a more rounded commentary please and more English pundits
KP is the worst - terrible pundit. Have to turn the volume off when he’s on
"that's the thing about taaaking the volume awf, what you've got to do is pick up the remote - point it at the screen THEN you push the mute button, THEN you switch the volume awf- not before. You don't want to get into a situation where you're muting it without even picking up the remote." - KP commenting every day things like he does the cricket.
He's also been on holiday for almost a week and not commentating so you can listen again and you won't have to tolerate him
Tough top of the table (except for London) game last night, Trent were right up for it, we even had a beamer, accidental of course, the Oval batsmen were waved off with little grace, the four Trent left arm bowlers gave their opponents a very hard time and Hales and co set about the Ovaltinies with grim determination .. just goes to show that these games are not all about a day out for the family fun and laughs, it is a very competitive and lucrative tournament with some nice prize money at stake, equal dibs for both men and women
I wouldn't mind trying some of whatever the fella spinning the tunes at Trent Bridge was on yesterday. He certainly had all the moves, just needed to synchronize them with the rhythm 😎
Good win for the Trockets breaking the London Spirit. Perhaps I feel an affiliation with them because I was born and lived in Nottingham, until I was all of nine months old, when we moved south, so I remember nothing of those days.👶 Trent Bridge my nearest test ground now though.
Trent blew London away .. London's bowling is weak and Trent, even given failures by Malan and Hales won with no problem at all .. Trent are the best all round side i m o, excellent fast and spin bowling, powerful batting and a noisy, lively fan base
Trent blew London away .. London's bowling is weak and Trent, even given failures by Malan and Hales won with no problem at all .. Trent are the best all round side i m o, excellent fast and spin bowling, powerful batting and a noisy, lively fan base
Still wheel out Sammit Patel though. Didn't get a bat yesterday but seldom does in this format. Poor lad should be putting his feet up by now, but I guess he enjoys himself too much, so fair play to him for carrying on with it, although I suppose the money might have something to to with it. Didn't see him bowl yesterday as I only saw the chase. How did he do?
Trent blew London away .. London's bowling is weak and Trent, even given failures by Malan and Hales won with no problem at all .. Trent are the best all round side i m o, excellent fast and spin bowling, powerful batting and a noisy, lively fan base
Still wheel out Sammit Patel though. Didn't get a bat yesterday but seldom does in this format. Poor lad should be putting his feet up by now, but I guess he enjoys himself too much, so fair play to him for carrying on with it, although I suppose the money might have something to to with it. Didn't see him bowl yesterday as I only saw the chase. How did he do?
Double header this week between London Spirit and Oval Invincibles at Lords this Saturday, women starting at 3.30 and the men's match after. I have two adult and two children's tickets silver family area, Bought for £70, selling for £50 for all four. DM me if interested
Taking my kids tomorrow along with three other families - first experience of the Hundred so will report back afterwards. However, the fact I'll be making a point of being an annoying bloke referring to the two sides as Middlesex and Surrey will give you an idea of my thoughts will entail
Taking my kids tomorrow along with three other families - first experience of the Hundred so will report back afterwards. However, the fact I'll be making a point of being an annoying bloke referring to the two sides as Middlesex and Surrey will give you an idea of my thoughts will entail
You'll want to kill the stadium announcer people that pop up on the big screen seemingly between every set of 5 balls. Absolute weapons that have barely got a clue what cricket is. The musical offerings are dross too. But the cricket is good which is the main thing.
Two shit games today my 3 youngest went with the Mrs , they enjoyed it although Petrol head furious cos he had to watch Grand Prix practise or whatever it was on phone . me and eldest were playing
L to R … Peter Kay , lairy little Cnut and then petrol head
Peter Kay in London Spirit top , lairy Cnut punching the air cos London losing and he’s trying to wind up Peter Kay, southern brave his chosen franchise , Petrol head putting phone away cos has no real interest in watching cricket .
Just back from tonight’s game and the verdict is very, very underwhelmed.
Shockingly poor standard of cricket from a bunch of has been and never will bes (bar the honourable exception of the Curran bros). I assumed Bopara had long retired - staggered to see him out there coughing up a simple catch at deep backward square.
Could count on one hand the number of 6s - entertainment it was not. Nobody could hit it off the square in either of the games…
As for attracting new audiences - never heard such nonsense in my life. £10 for a burger and nearly spat out my £7 beer when the lady informed me chips didn’t come with it and were another £3.50.
Crowd was 90% middle class white and 10% middle class Asian - just like any other cricket match in the UK. Only black faces I saw all day were Bell-Drummond doing a net having been dropped and various bar staff/stewards.
Music/DJ was piss poor, creating little or no ‘party atmosphere’.
As the likes of Addick Addict have said, the whole thing is total fix driven purely by money and Harrison’s £1m ‘performance bonus’
In conclusion, great to take my kids to Lord’s - the place always has a magical feeling about it - but won’t go anywhere near the Hundred again - will take them to see Kent in the Blast next season instead.
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Oh No, as if I wasn't confused enough already getting used to the fact that incoming batters have to face the strike in the Hundred even when the batters have crossed.
An interesting article on how much the Test cricket means to the welfare of cricket in this country when compared to the Hundred:
It is difficult to over exaggerate how much English cricket relies on Test cricket financially. Perhaps as much as two-thirds of the ECB’s total domestic income comes from the six or seven red ball internationals played every summer. The ticket sales alone for a home Ashes series draws in almost as much income as the entire Hundred (Including TV rights, sponsors, and 34/35 ‘full’ grounds) in a year.
Which is what makes it so surprising that the ECB seems intent on prioritising a competition which is losing money, and seems certain to continue losing money for the next six years without significant changes, to the detriment of their proverbial golden goose.
For a simple indication of the two formats’ relative worth: In 2019, the idea was mooted by MCC members that one Test every season, played at Lord’s, should be shown on Freeview. Sky responded by saying that such a move would cost the ECB £50m per year. For a single Test match. The total revenue for The Hundred in 2021 was £52m.
It has been said repeatedly by supporters of The Hundred that it is vital for the competition is played in August, since more children will be able to attend games or watch them on TV than at any other time of the year. This may be fair enough as an argument if your sole priority is the long term health of this one competition, but it is baffling in the context of English cricket as a whole.
Given that the ECB (and therefore the counties also) are so financially reliant on Test cricket, it would seem like a sensible measure to ensure that as many children as possible were able to watch it on TV, to become the next generation of fans (and, more cynically, customers). Instead, the ECB has chosen to do the opposite.
There is also the matter of attendance. The T20 Blast was shifted from primarily being in August in 2019 to June in 2022, and this appeared to cause a 23% decline in ticket sales. Given the high demand and high price for Test tickets in England, a similar fall in sales might cost the ECB several million pounds every year.
It should be said, in fairness to Tom Harrison and others at the ECB, that they acknowledge the reliance that English cricket has on a handful of Test matches every season. It was a key goal of The Hundred to become a second source of income for the game, to act as a safety net in the event that the commercial viability of the red ball game declined. That is not an unlikely scenario, not least because clowns like Harrison have been in charge of English Test cricket for a long time.
The initial indications from The Hundred this year don’t seem to indicate that the competition deserves this extraordinary level of support from the ECB. Viewing figures on the BBC appear to be almost half what they were in 2021, suggesting very little interest from the wider public. And, to be clear, this is before the men’s Test series against South Africa has begun. Moving next year’s Ashes to a less favourable slot in the calendar wouldn’t obviously have any positive effect on The Hundred, but could have a severe negative impact on the number of people watching the Tests.
Cricket Australia hosts both a T20 competition and their Test series at the same time, with no obvious harm to either. The idea that it is necessary to sacrifice England internationals in order to ensure the growth and popularity of The Hundred is blatantly false. The whole exercise stinks of some worried executives throwing every possible resource behind a project they are publicly considered responsible for, or perhaps have bonuses linked to the success of, not caring about the wider damage it will cause the organisation and people they are supposed to represent.
The ECB is insulated somewhat from the consequences of their actions, at least for a while. A new Sky TV deal has already been agreed which offers them a similar guaranteed income over the next six years, albeit one that will likely be worth a lot less over time due to high inflation in the UK. The problem will come when they look to negotiate the next contract, from 2029 onwards. If interest in the longest format is diminished, and by extension its commercial worth, then it would lead to a significant devaluation in what Sky and their competitors thought the rights are worth paying for. That would be catastrophic for the ECB, and particularly the counties.
Alana King bowled 10 dot balls in a row, a hundred record & well played her, but Marizanne Kapp was under no scoreboard pressure and decided not to attack her, only because she wasn't bowling pies and didn't need to.
Edit. No further questions today 😎
The Hundred doesn't seem only to be bringing in new fans, but it's helping to enlighten them too.
Good win for the Trockets breaking the London Spirit. Perhaps I feel an affiliation with them because I was born and lived in Nottingham, until I was all of nine months old, when we moved south, so I remember nothing of those days.👶 Trent Bridge my nearest test ground now though.
me and eldest were playing
Peter Kay in London Spirit top , lairy Cnut punching the air cos London losing and he’s trying to wind up Peter Kay, southern brave his chosen franchise , Petrol head putting phone away cos has no real interest in watching cricket .
Crowd was 90% middle class white and 10% middle class Asian - just like any other cricket match in the UK. Only black faces I saw all day were Bell-Drummond doing a net having been dropped and various bar staff/stewards.
In conclusion, great to take my kids to Lord’s - the place always has a magical feeling about it - but won’t go anywhere near the Hundred again - will take them to see Kent in the Blast next season instead.