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Conor Washington - now at Derby (p26)
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You're speaking as if we never had strikers that could finish.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
If he was a better finisher he wouldn't have been at L1 level. We have to be realistic.SELR_addicks said:Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that.
Or that other teams in League One also don't have strikers that can score.
Washington and Stockley this season have a grand total of 2 goals.
Colby Bishop (signed this transfer window) has 4.0 -
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Did we keep them for long at this level?SELR_addicks said:
You're speaking as if we never had strikers that could finish.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
If he was a better finisher he wouldn't have been at L1 level. We have to be realistic.SELR_addicks said:Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that.
Karlan Grant and Lyle Taylor are the prolific two we had...
We lost one because he was out of Contract in the coming summer and had to get a fee or nothing for him. We only kept the Taylor because he was under Contract, but still left the moment he could, and still wanted to go straight after we won promotion as he wanted to go Brentford.
Mendonca | Hunt | Bent | Kermorgant are the prolific Strikers we've truly kept hold of in recent years.
Could add Wright-Phillips, but League One in England was clearly his ceiling level0 -
The point being in the absence of that Washington would have been a useful addition to what we currently have.SELR_addicks said:Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that.
If we sign a striker/ goalscorer as good as or better than Washington in next few days then I'll be glad and will see it as an improvement or at least match for what we had...if we don't it will seem very foolhardy that we didn't retain him.
Particularly as he's a key man in a Championship side.4 -
Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.1
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Just needs to do that more often Callum, which I do agree with in terms of the criticism towards him - Its ridiculous how he can score chances like that, and like his goal @ Morecambe last season, but will often fluff what appears an "easy" opportunity.2
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Averaged about 1 goal in three games for us at L1 level - decent return. There aren't loads of decent strikers at this level and we certainly haven't found them.SELR_addicks said:
You're speaking as if we never had strikers that could finish.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
If he was a better finisher he wouldn't have been at L1 level. We have to be realistic.SELR_addicks said:Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that.
Or that other teams in League One also don't have strikers that can score.
Washington and Stockley this season have a grand total of 2 goals.
Colby Bishop (signed this transfer window) has 4.0 -
He would have scored one goal for us from open play but missed the penalty that Stockley scored. That's how it rolls at Charlton!0
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He was trying to cross it to no one and got lucky.Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.2 -
you can give him a good reception next season when they inevitably get relegated. Rotherham in 5th is the falsest of false positions at this stage of the season.sam3110 said:Haha the people on here clutching at straws about him "not having an impact" or "always being subbed off", but failing to see that he's starting every game, for a team a division above us, who are, in the early stages of the season, in the Playoff spots.
He's moved on, to a team higher up, and is playing every week, maybe you didn't rate him, but clearly right now the Rotherham manager does1 -
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How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.2 -
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.4 -
A goal that the keeper saves 99/100SELR_addicks said:5 games, 1 goal, 0 assists.
Subbed off every single game at the hour mark.
Seems about right.0 -
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.0 -
Washington doesn’t suit the way we are playing now. He suits a direct team playing 2 up front, which is why he worked for Jackson and is working for Rotherham. If Jackson had stayed then we should have kept him, but with the direction we have taken it was the right call to get rid. We need to replace him with someone more suited to the style7
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Of our goalkeeper was beaten from that angle after ducking under the ball, he would get pelters.Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.1 -
Rotherham 1 Swansea 1se9addick said:Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship.
Rotherham 4 Reading 0
Preston 0 Rotherham 0
QPR 1 Rotherham 1
Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0
There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
Also, they've had a really easy start.0 -
Like thrashing the team top of the league?Covered End said:
Rotherham 1 Swansea 1se9addick said:Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship.
Rotherham 4 Reading 0
Preston 0 Rotherham 0
QPR 1 Rotherham 1
Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0
There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
Also, they've had a really easy start.1 -
you got some videos of his other finishes for Rotherham?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.FA is spot on, at times he finished like a top player but it’s all about consistency. Showing him scoring the occasional good goal is fairly meaningless if/when he’s missing other chances.1 -
Well that’s it then, Rotherham are as good as in the PL and Washington is going to be their player of the season, it was a massive mistake letting him go.
This is all based on him scoring one goal mind.0 -
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You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.1 -
What we really need is a detailed break down of Rotherham's SOS and SOV to aid the argument.14
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cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
"Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. "
Is what I initially said.0 -
Yes, Reading, another team that have had a really easy start.cafcfan1990 said:
Like thrashing the team top of the league?Covered End said:
Rotherham 1 Swansea 1se9addick said:Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship.
Rotherham 4 Reading 0
Preston 0 Rotherham 0
QPR 1 Rotherham 1
Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0
There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
Also, they've had a really easy start.
Blackpool 1 Reading 0
Reading 2 Cardiff 1
Reading 1 Stevenage 2 (cup)
Rotherham 4 Reading 0
Reading 3 Blackburn 0
Reading 1 Middlesbrough 0
Millwall 0 Reading 10 -
"Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless."SELR_addicks said:cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
"Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. "
Is what I initially said.
Is what you said though... No?
And its that comment that I was replying to1 -
It’s so competitive I just don’t see it that clubs have “easy starts”. Besides, Blackburn, Boro and Millwall finished 7th, 8th and 9th last season. I think there’s a case that they’ve lost the easier two.Covered End said:
Yes, Reading, another team that have had a really easy start.cafcfan1990 said:
Like thrashing the team top of the league?Covered End said:
Rotherham 1 Swansea 1se9addick said:Started every match for a team that’s 5th in the Championship.
Rotherham 4 Reading 0
Preston 0 Rotherham 0
QPR 1 Rotherham 1
Rotherham 2 Birmingham 0
There's no denying Rotherham are doing very well.
Also, they've had a really easy start.
Blackpool 1 Reading 0
Reading 2 Cardiff 1
Reading 1 Stevenage 2 (cup)
Rotherham 4 Reading 0
Reading 3 Blackburn 0
Reading 1 Middlesbrough 0
Millwall 0 Reading 10 -
That goal wouldn’t have happened with Navy Starr at left back!0
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If the only goal Washington scores is in a 4-0 hammering of a team, I wouldn't regard that as of the same importance as a 1-0 winner would.ForeverAddickted said:
"Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless."SELR_addicks said:cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
"Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. "
Is what I initially said.
Is what you said though... No?
And its that comment that I was replying to
If that's the only game he scores in, it points to him being unable to get into goalscoring opportunities, or finishing them off.0 -
I think that the majority of fans agree, that we would be better off with Washington than with no replacement.
I think that the majority of fans agree, that whether it was correct or not, for us not to renew his contract, depends upon whether we get a replacement and whether the replacement is better than Washington, or at least as good and perhaps on a lower wage.19 -
If Rotherham survive by a single goal, or end up in the Play-Offs by a single goal.SELR_addicks said:
If the only goal Washington scores is in a 4-0 hammering of a team, I wouldn't regard that as of the same importance as a 1-0 winner would.ForeverAddickted said:
"Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless."SELR_addicks said:cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
"Anyone wanting Washington back and thinking he's the answer clearly didn't watch last season.cafcfan1990 said:
You’re right. That’s not, however, what you initially said at all.SELR_addicks said:
No, I'm saying that if Washington was in our squad right now we would still be crying out for a striker.ForeverAddickted said:
A goal is a fucking goal... Its genuinely pathetic how people (YOU) are desperate to discredit someone just because they think one goal compared to another is "meaningless" - Especially when the likes of Schwarz was slaughtered on here for such a "meaningless" penalty miss against OxfordSELR_addicks said:
How many has he scored in the other games?Callumcafc said:Terrible finisher. Glad we got rid.
Getting a goal in a 4-0 hiding is like praising Stockley for scoring a penalty. Meaningless.
He doesn't fit the style, he doesn't fit the formation and he doesn't fit as a lone striker.
If he fancies turning himself into a winger then sure thing but even then we need to look at the 0 assists he provides.
We need a striker that can score and finish off chances in the box. Washington isn't that. "
Is what I initially said.
Is what you said though... No?
And its that comment that I was replying to
If that's the only game he scores in, it points to him being unable to get into goalscoring opportunities, or finishing them off.
Does that make Washington's goal less or more important than a 1-0 win?0
