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Post-match Thread: Shrewsbury Town vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 22nd October 2022 - 3pm
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And yet he's a good enough manager to improvise and create the best set-up for this team.ElliotCAFC said:
4-3-3 is very much Garner’s normal system. That’s not something Sandgaard has forced on himBailey said:
Garner dropped the system dictated to him by those gurus of football 'The Sandgaards' if Adkins had done the same, he may have lasted longer in the job.eastterrace6168 said:Well, what a turn around there has been in the space of 10 days from a very ordinary looking average league one mid table side to one that can only see one way and that is up the league.
Something has changed within the club, and there seems a new found belief in our own ability to turn the season around, the next couple of games are going to prove pivotal, another six points and we will have opposition not wanting to play us as we could cement a top six place...don't let us and yourselves down now lads..👍
Something we haven't had in years.14 -
Agree with that. Had so many one dimensional managers. Garner might not always get it right to start with but he will have a plan b,c etc.SELR_addicks said:
And yet he's a good enough manager to improvise and create the best set-up for this team.ElliotCAFC said:
4-3-3 is very much Garner’s normal system. That’s not something Sandgaard has forced on himBailey said:
Garner dropped the system dictated to him by those gurus of football 'The Sandgaards' if Adkins had done the same, he may have lasted longer in the job.eastterrace6168 said:Well, what a turn around there has been in the space of 10 days from a very ordinary looking average league one mid table side to one that can only see one way and that is up the league.
Something has changed within the club, and there seems a new found belief in our own ability to turn the season around, the next couple of games are going to prove pivotal, another six points and we will have opposition not wanting to play us as we could cement a top six place...don't let us and yourselves down now lads..👍
Something we haven't had in years.
Good result today and as BG said, its a monkey off our back. Looking forward to Tuesday.6 -
Especially how he effectively switched, ended the game playing 3-5-2, given its not been a favourite formation of late - I didnt like the final subs when they were made, felt nervous, but there was zero concern really.SELR_addicks said:
And yet he's a good enough manager to improvise and create the best set-up for this team.ElliotCAFC said:
4-3-3 is very much Garner’s normal system. That’s not something Sandgaard has forced on himBailey said:
Garner dropped the system dictated to him by those gurus of football 'The Sandgaards' if Adkins had done the same, he may have lasted longer in the job.eastterrace6168 said:Well, what a turn around there has been in the space of 10 days from a very ordinary looking average league one mid table side to one that can only see one way and that is up the league.
Something has changed within the club, and there seems a new found belief in our own ability to turn the season around, the next couple of games are going to prove pivotal, another six points and we will have opposition not wanting to play us as we could cement a top six place...don't let us and yourselves down now lads..👍
Something we haven't had in years.2 -
Exactly. Let's not use "alternative facts" to have yet another pop at the owner.ElliotCAFC said:
4-3-3 is very much Garner’s normal system. That’s not something Sandgaard has forced on himBailey said:
Garner dropped the system dictated to him by those gurus of football 'The Sandgaards' if Adkins had done the same, he may have lasted longer in the job.eastterrace6168 said:Well, what a turn around there has been in the space of 10 days from a very ordinary looking average league one mid table side to one that can only see one way and that is up the league.
Something has changed within the club, and there seems a new found belief in our own ability to turn the season around, the next couple of games are going to prove pivotal, another six points and we will have opposition not wanting to play us as we could cement a top six place...don't let us and yourselves down now lads..👍15 -
Felt the same but least it was done around 86,87 minutes and not earlier. Think Thomas may have only touched the ball once but was a composed pass back to Wollacott under pressure.ForeverAddickted said:
Especially how he effectively switched, ended the game playing 3-5-2, given its not been a favourite formation of late - I didnt like the final subs when they were made, felt nervous, but there was zero concern really.SELR_addicks said:
And yet he's a good enough manager to improvise and create the best set-up for this team.ElliotCAFC said:
4-3-3 is very much Garner’s normal system. That’s not something Sandgaard has forced on himBailey said:
Garner dropped the system dictated to him by those gurus of football 'The Sandgaards' if Adkins had done the same, he may have lasted longer in the job.eastterrace6168 said:Well, what a turn around there has been in the space of 10 days from a very ordinary looking average league one mid table side to one that can only see one way and that is up the league.
Something has changed within the club, and there seems a new found belief in our own ability to turn the season around, the next couple of games are going to prove pivotal, another six points and we will have opposition not wanting to play us as we could cement a top six place...don't let us and yourselves down now lads..👍
Something we haven't had in years.1 -
Missed the game today, so unable to comment from a personal perspective, great result and even greater last 10 days, long may it continue, looking forward to catching up on the highlights.
Ben seems to have instilled an inner belief in the team and has them playing to their strengths, looking forward to M K Dons & Ipswich with a lot more hope that top six is now very much our place, and maybe even higher...🤷♂️0 -
I'm going full negative Nancy mode.
Playing bottom of the table MK Dons on Tues night. Lump every penny you have that we'll lose it
Still at least 1 striker light. Even having Chuks "fit" means he can only come on for the last 10 mins. Need him fit to play at least 45 mins. Today was crying out for a "finisher" to bury the chances being made. Cant rely on Stockley to score, esp not with his feet from open play.
With a balanced squad from day 1 we'd now be comfortably in the play offs.....and possibly only a point or 2 from automatics. But we are just an injury or 2 away from being dragged back into the pack. Looking at the teams around us with games in hand our "true" position is probably 10th.
Will be there on Tuesday & next Saturday. Anything less than 4 points makes the past 2 weeks inconsequential.13 -
Garner is without doubt our best signing in recent years. It is a joy to watch the football we play at times. I really hope that he sees us a his project as I'm sure if he sticks around we are going to progress over the next few years. Trouble is I think it very likely he will be nicked before he has the chance to build here2
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Tough gritty win at an inform team. Just shows how pointless the tactics were earlier on in the season.
We just need Kirk to get on the scoreline. Whilst he wasnt as involved as Id like him to be, he doesnt waste the ball when he gets it.
Good result......on to Tuesday.3 -
https://www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2022/october/post-charlton--steve-cotterill/
Cotterills comments....any of what he said correct? He sounds bitter to me!!0 - Sponsored links:
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The most hilarious part of that post is ..... "going" .....golfaddick said:I'm going full negative Nancy mode.
Playing bottom of the table MK Dons on Tues night. Lump every penny you have that we'll lose it
Still at least 1 striker light. Even having Chuks "fit" means he can only come on for the last 10 mins. Need him fit to play at least 45 mins. Today was crying out for a "finisher" to bury the chances being made. Cant rely on Stockley to score, esp not with his feet from open play.
With a balanced squad from day 1 we'd now be comfortably in the play offs.....and possibly only a point or 2 from automatics. But we are just an injury or 2 away from being dragged back into the pack. Looking at the teams around us with games in hand our "true" position is probably 10th.
Will be there on Tuesday & next Saturday. Anything less than 4 points makes the past 2 weeks inconsequential.20 -
golfaddick said:I'm going full negative Nancy mode.
Playing bottom of the table MK Dons on Tues night. Lump every penny you have that we'll lose it
Still at least 1 striker light. Even having Chuks "fit" means he can only come on for the last 10 mins. Need him fit to play at least 45 mins. Today was crying out for a "finisher" to bury the chances being made. Cant rely on Stockley to score, esp not with his feet from open play.
With a balanced squad from day 1 we'd now be comfortably in the play offs.....and possibly only a point or 2 from automatics. But we are just an injury or 2 away from being dragged back into the pack. Looking at the teams around us with games in hand our "true" position is probably 10th.
Will be there on Tuesday & next Saturday. Anything less than 4 points makes the past 2 weeks inconsequential.
Awe c'mon Golfie, we have just completed a trio of wins with an 8/2 goal ratio, we all know about our lack of striker stuff, and where we may have been if and when etc etc, but our true position is 7th I think you will find, and I fully expect us to be either in or very much knocking on the door of top 6 come 10pm Tuesday, with us actually looking forward to Ipswich next Saturday.
Ben has them playing again as a team, and long may that continue...5 -
He’s just seeing it from his biased vision. JRS had two gilt edged chances first half so how Cotterill reckons they should’ve been two up is just rubbish. It could’ve finished at least 3-3 if both teams had taken their chances. We took one of ours they took none so tough luck. He needs to take some sugar with those grapes 😉.king addick said:https://www.shrewsburytown.com/news/2022/october/post-charlton--steve-cotterill/
Cotterills comments....any of what he said correct? He sounds bitter to me!!3 -
The money position has not changed because we have won a few, but it might encourage a buyer. So, no, there will be no January striker, but Leaburn may go, to balance the books a little.charltonbob said:
With every win it takes us further away from recruiting a striker in January (if there was any chance in the first place)Wheresmeticket? said:
I don't care as long as he coughs up for a striker in January.sralan said:Good win. Three on the bounce !! How long before TS shows his face again and takes the plaudits?0 -
No question in my mind that Ben Garner has his teams playing good football. That of course isn’t always enough. You need something else and quite honestly up until Exeter we’ve not seen that bit extra much at all. Certainly confidence is a big thing and I think we’re now after three wins reaping the benefits of confidence as well as Garner’s coaching and preparation. At last something to build on. Hope there’s money and will in the kitty for a striker in January because there is right now a glimmer of a slim chance of making top six. A striker could just be the missing bit extra.1
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Oh how a few wins changes the mood in this place! Dogged away performance against a team set up to disrupt and annoy. It had 1-0 written all over it, despite our chances and there’s, thankfully it went our way for once at that God forsaken place. Well played all that went, deserved that win!1
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You are stating this as a fact so exactly why would that be the case and what has changed since the last day of the summer window.Southbank said:
The money position has not changed because we have won a few, but it might encourage a buyer. So, no, there will be no January striker, but Leaburn may go, to balance the books a little.charltonbob said:
With every win it takes us further away from recruiting a striker in January (if there was any chance in the first place)Wheresmeticket? said:
I don't care as long as he coughs up for a striker in January.sralan said:Good win. Three on the bounce !! How long before TS shows his face again and takes the plaudits?1 -
Let’s not underestimate who we beat today. They were above us, won three in a row at home and like us have won their last two.We’ve sured up our defence thanks to Inniss and O’Connell looking like a great partnership and Egbo and Sessignon are making the world of difference.
Dobson and Fraser are an amazing pairing at this level. With pace on the wings and Stockley improving EVERY game with a partner (Kirk is a good player, but I do think we can still improve there) we are starting to look like we have a real chance of a positive season.Well done Ben Garner, you are a real breath of fresh air down here at the valley.14 -
The high press within that system is and my point is that Adkins was forced to play it without the players that could work well within that system, Jackson stopped playing it for that reason, Garner has now stopped the high press and has found a system that works. I am sure that Garner would play that 4,3,3 high press if he had the players to do so, he hasn't and he stated ten days ago that he was trying to find a system that suited his players, fingers crossed he's found it and that injuries do not disrupt any success we can achieve. As for Sandgaard he knows about as much about Football as he does Melody.ElliotCAFC said:
4-3-3 is very much Garner’s normal system. That’s not something Sandgaard has forced on himBailey said:
Garner dropped the system dictated to him by those gurus of football 'The Sandgaards' if Adkins had done the same, he may have lasted longer in the job.eastterrace6168 said:Well, what a turn around there has been in the space of 10 days from a very ordinary looking average league one mid table side to one that can only see one way and that is up the league.
Something has changed within the club, and there seems a new found belief in our own ability to turn the season around, the next couple of games are going to prove pivotal, another six points and we will have opposition not wanting to play us as we could cement a top six place...don't let us and yourselves down now lads..👍4 -
What alternative facts? The owner wanted the same system of high press played under Adkins, fact. The owner sacked Jackson and stated that he wanted a high press system played and Jackson wouldn't provide that, fact. Garner was brought in to play the system dictated by the owner because Garner has played that system to good effect elsewhere, fact. Adkins got the sack because the system of high press was proved to fail because of a lack of appropriate recruitment, fact. Garner would have suffered the same fate but like Jackson, he has changed the system to gain results. What is alternative about the truth?Off_it said:
Exactly. Let's not use "alternative facts" to have yet another pop at the owner.ElliotCAFC said:
4-3-3 is very much Garner’s normal system. That’s not something Sandgaard has forced on himBailey said:
Garner dropped the system dictated to him by those gurus of football 'The Sandgaards' if Adkins had done the same, he may have lasted longer in the job.eastterrace6168 said:Well, what a turn around there has been in the space of 10 days from a very ordinary looking average league one mid table side to one that can only see one way and that is up the league.
Something has changed within the club, and there seems a new found belief in our own ability to turn the season around, the next couple of games are going to prove pivotal, another six points and we will have opposition not wanting to play us as we could cement a top six place...don't let us and yourselves down now lads..👍9 - Sponsored links:
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Major ongoing costcutting in every area of the clubRedrobo said:
You are stating this as a fact so exactly why would that be the case and what has changed since the last day of the summer window.Southbank said:
The money position has not changed because we have won a few, but it might encourage a buyer. So, no, there will be no January striker, but Leaburn may go, to balance the books a little.charltonbob said:
With every win it takes us further away from recruiting a striker in January (if there was any chance in the first place)Wheresmeticket? said:
I don't care as long as he coughs up for a striker in January.sralan said:Good win. Three on the bounce !! How long before TS shows his face again and takes the plaudits?2 -
All in all a pretty bloody good day out!0
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Cant see Sandgaard spending money in Jan but If we’re close to the playoffs I fully expect us to bring in a striker on loan.Southbank said:
The money position has not changed because we have won a few, but it might encourage a buyer. So, no, there will be no January striker, but Leaburn may go, to balance the books a little.charltonbob said:
With every win it takes us further away from recruiting a striker in January (if there was any chance in the first place)Wheresmeticket? said:
I don't care as long as he coughs up for a striker in January.sralan said:Good win. Three on the bounce !! How long before TS shows his face again and takes the plaudits?
The quality of said loanee will ultimately be the difference between top 6 & mid table.1 -
We still are pressing teams high, and were particularly effective at doing it against Portsmouth.
Indeed I was actually impressed to see how far forward up the pitch we were in the closing minutes of todays game, even under the Shrews aerial bombardment.0 -
Ground out result. Just the kind I like when you don't look like winning.3
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I think a fair result would have been 3-2 or possibly even 4-2, in our favour. We were a bit wasteful up front and RS should have bagged a hat-trick but he scored the winner. The defence looks better. We are not perfect but this is League One, you don't have to be perfect and we clearly were deserved winners.Shrewsbury were in good form and this is the sort of away perfermance and outcome which could yet see us get out of this league if we can sustain and even improve on it.0
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Just a guess then.Southbank said:
Major ongoing costcutting in every area of the clubRedrobo said:
You are stating this as a fact so exactly why would that be the case and what has changed since the last day of the summer window.Southbank said:
The money position has not changed because we have won a few, but it might encourage a buyer. So, no, there will be no January striker, but Leaburn may go, to balance the books a little.charltonbob said:
With every win it takes us further away from recruiting a striker in January (if there was any chance in the first place)Wheresmeticket? said:
I don't care as long as he coughs up for a striker in January.sralan said:Good win. Three on the bounce !! How long before TS shows his face again and takes the plaudits?Why not say so instead of shouting and implying a fact.If the money position has not changed then we still have the money that we were signing a striker with on the last day, yes?3 -
Have a day off. We won, have a beer and enjoy yourselfgolfaddick said:I'm going full negative Nancy mode.
Playing bottom of the table MK Dons on Tues night. Lump every penny you have that we'll lose it
Still at least 1 striker light. Even having Chuks "fit" means he can only come on for the last 10 mins. Need him fit to play at least 45 mins. Today was crying out for a "finisher" to bury the chances being made. Cant rely on Stockley to score, esp not with his feet from open play.
With a balanced squad from day 1 we'd now be comfortably in the play offs.....and possibly only a point or 2 from automatics. But we are just an injury or 2 away from being dragged back into the pack. Looking at the teams around us with games in hand our "true" position is probably 10th.
Will be there on Tuesday & next Saturday. Anything less than 4 points makes the past 2 weeks inconsequential.7 -
Delighted with the result today. Let's hope we can continue this momentum.
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Stockleys stop/block on the goal line early on helped shape the game for us , he was brilliant I thought first half hour .
JRS is silky smooth , yes his misses were shit but that’s a player there no doubt .
Garner has got us going beautifully and I think Fraser has turned me around from thinking what a fucking pathetic weak footballer he is to a proper player , one of my favs now .
Kirk is an enigma , I’m watching a different game to most , he hides out of the way to me most of the time and mainly looks for a safe pass , I’m just not seeing it but in all fairness he got his foot in a couple of times today when we were backs to the wall .
I still think we can do a lot better, we should do this is the fucking third tier
0.75% Top 2
30% Play offs
66.25% 7th-12th
3% 13th-20th
0% Relegation
just like Afka i find these Saturday afternoon matches on Charlton TV flyby with the odd drift off …3
