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But he IS on the show, so discussing why he is there is perfectly reasonable.ForeverAddickted said:
The issue should be at the source...ME14addick said:
It also seems that people have fallen for Matt Hancock's deflection, if some of the comments on this thread are anything to go by.ForeverAddickted said:Why is there no anger towards ITV who have bloody well asked Hancock to go on the show in the first place? - Can someone please tell me that?
Jesus, the media are bloody experts at making people angry these days
People fall for it every time as well
Yes ITV are wrong to give him a platform, but it was his decision to go into the jungle
If ITV dont give him the platform, he wouldn't be on the show0 -
Why do you not practice what you preach.ME14addick said:shine166 said:
Not as short as your memory, multiple people over multiple days have told you this is neither the covid or politics thread. It'sME14addick said:People have very short memories, no way should Matt Hancock be anywhere near winning.
No it's a thread about I'm a Celebrity and the contestants, one of whom is Matt Hancock. Some people are very tetchy about discussing his past misdemeanours. It seems that it's okay to discuss those of Boy George, but taboo for some when it involves mistakes which cost thousands of lives.
You said: "Its a thread about IAC and the contestants, one of whom is Matt Hancock"
So, discuss MH and what he is up to in the jungle on this thread
You said: "Some people are very tetchy about discussing his past misdemeanours"
No we are not, the HOC thread is for that and full of MH stories.
Personally, I think admin have been very sloppy and slow in shutting you down and removing the political video you posted above, this is not the thread for it.3 -
So if he went in when parliament was in recess, that would be ok with you?ME14addick said:
No but they need to take leave and most do when Parliament isn't sitting. Instead Matt Hancock is earning £400K at a time when his constituents are suffering great hardship.MrOneLung said:
do their constituents problems go on holiday in those periods too ?ME14addick said:
Most go on holiday when Parliament is in recess.MrOneLung said:
So does no one do anything for his constituents when he normally goes on holiday ?lolwray said:Hancock should be nowhere this show ..he should be working for his constituents and doing what he gets paid for ..I find his presence on this insulting.0 -
Of course not, don't be silly.MrOneLung said:
So if he went in when parliament was in recess, that would be ok with you?ME14addick said:
No but they need to take leave and most do when Parliament isn't sitting. Instead Matt Hancock is earning £400K at a time when his constituents are suffering great hardship.MrOneLung said:
do their constituents problems go on holiday in those periods too ?ME14addick said:
Most go on holiday when Parliament is in recess.MrOneLung said:
So does no one do anything for his constituents when he normally goes on holiday ?lolwray said:Hancock should be nowhere this show ..he should be working for his constituents and doing what he gets paid for ..I find his presence on this insulting.0 -
The video was a reminder of Matt Hancock's behaviour which so many seem to have forgotten. Why not save your anger for the man whom the High Court found to have acted illegally, resulting in thousands of people dying. The same man that is now trying to save his image by eating a load of bugs.2
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Not quite so bad, but I don't think serving politicians should be taking part in this programme. The fact that he is there has made it political rather than celebrity.MrOneLung said:
So if he went in when parliament was in recess, that would be ok with you?ME14addick said:
No but they need to take leave and most do when Parliament isn't sitting. Instead Matt Hancock is earning £400K at a time when his constituents are suffering great hardship.MrOneLung said:
do their constituents problems go on holiday in those periods too ?ME14addick said:
Most go on holiday when Parliament is in recess.MrOneLung said:
So does no one do anything for his constituents when he normally goes on holiday ?lolwray said:Hancock should be nowhere this show ..he should be working for his constituents and doing what he gets paid for ..I find his presence on this insulting.1 -
you don't like him, we get it. Doesn't mean we cannot enjoy him being on the programmeME14addick said:The video was a reminder of Matt Hancock's behaviour which so many seem to have forgotten. Why not save your anger for the man whom the High Court found to have acted illegally, resulting in thousands of people dying. The same man that is now trying to save his image by eating a load of bugs.
I suggest you stop watching (if you do) and stop posting if you don't5 -
Thought I’d stumbled on the politics thread by mistake! Anyhoo, bye George. Disappointed to have my preconceived notion that he is a tit confirmed. Interesting to watch him though. It will be a poorer show without him but he has to go really. Expect the next three evictions (altogether now - in no particular order) to be Moyles, Baba and the other comedian fellah whose name escapes me. None of them now adding much. Jill and Mike are shoe ins for the final. The only remaining question is how the Hancock thing plays out. Will the public let him win just to watch the wotsit hitting the air conditioning or will nice but dim Owen make up the final three. In the overall run of things in life at the moment, this show is wrong in so many ways but i find highly watchable. It is the only reality tv show that I watch. This season has been one of the better ones. The return to Oz is a factor in this as has the interesting group of “celebs”. I had actually heard of the majority of them beforehand! Cmon Jill!!!!5
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I do not have a short memory, the ambulance strikes over 30 years ago cemented my political opinion and the way I choose to vote.ME14addick said:People have very short memories, no way should Matt Hancock be anywhere near winning.
I have enjoyed this series back in the green jungle and as for Hancock, I don’t think he should be there. He is though, just a person. An interesting character with a CV that along with others caused the death of thousands.
However incapable him or the government were of making the right decisions, I doubt if it was intentional and wonder if any other party would have made a better one.
Jill to win.
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How is Matt Hancock still
there? Disregarding the politics, his lack of personality really shows, boring hell.1 -
Jill will win.
Think Owen and Jill will be the final two.
Hancock has already come out of this ten times better than I expected when he went in (couldn’t imagine anyone voting for him).
I like him as a campmate. I find all of them left quite vanilla but he’s no worse than anyone else.
Biggest line I have see since he has gone on the show? “If it’s his fault why all these people died of Covid, does he also take the credit for presiding over a globally admired vaccine roll out. We lead the way.”
Cant have it both ways. He was either to blame for both or not responsible for either.6 -
DamoNorthStand said:Jill will win.
Think Owen and Jill will be the final two.
Hancock has already come out of this ten times better than I expected when he went in (couldn’t imagine anyone voting for him).
I like him as a campmate. I find all of them left quite vanilla but he’s no worse than anyone else.
Biggest line I have see since he has gone on the show? “If it’s his fault why all these people died of Covid, does he also take the credit for presiding over a globally admired vaccine roll out. We lead the way.”
Cant have it both ways. He was either to blame for both or not responsible for either.
We do live privileged lives and forever indebted to the people who actually made the vaccine and went through the correct procedures for most of the whole world to recieve its doses...and it was free!
Sure, it's a dog eat dog world at times, but that never usually lasts long as most people don't really get much out of behaving like that for the long term.
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You are forgetting that there was a court ruling that found that the Government & Matt Hancock as Health Secretary, acted illegally in discharging untested patients into care homes. Matt Hancock also lied in stating that a protective ring had been put around care homes right from the start. Warnings of asymptomatic transmission were given well before the instruction was given to discharge people with no symptoms into care homes. Matt Hancock had to apologise for all of this.DamoNorthStand said:Jill will win.
Think Owen and Jill will be the final two.
Hancock has already come out of this ten times better than I expected when he went in (couldn’t imagine anyone voting for him).
I like him as a campmate. I find all of them left quite vanilla but he’s no worse than anyone else.
Biggest line I have see since he has gone on the show? “If it’s his fault why all these people died of Covid, does he also take the credit for presiding over a globally admired vaccine roll out. We lead the way.”
Cant have it both ways. He was either to blame for both or not responsible for either.
The Oxford Astra Zeneca vaccine was developed by scientists from Oxford University who had been working on a vaccine for several years. When the pandemic started, they were ready to adapt it for SARS-Cov-2. The MHRA worked alongside the scientists to test and regulate the vaccine speedily. The vaccine rollout was very good but, not down to Matt Hancock.
https://www.itv.com/news/2022-04-27/discharging-patients-from-hospitals-to-care-homes-during-pandemic-unlawful
All 20 warnings the Government had over asymptomatic Covid before patients were sent to care homes (inews.co.uk)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/27/covid-discharging-untested-patients-into-care-homes-was-unlawful-says-court
https://fullfact.org/health/matt-hancock-protective-ring-care-homes/
https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/92958/i-m-a-celebrity-2021
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but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?1 -
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.1 -
If anyone is stupid enough to think oh Matt Hancock is just misunderstood for his fuck ups because he’s done alright in the jungle then that’s their own fuckwitteryME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.6 -
You are incorrect, they are all in there to improve their imageME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.3 -
Perhaps I worded that incorrectly. Matt Hancock is the only contestant who made decisions that affected thousands of people's lives.MrOneLung said:
You are incorrect, they are all in there to improve their imageME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.0 -
Well, and get paid.MrOneLung said:
You are incorrect, they are all in there to improve their imageME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.0 - Sponsored links:
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Unfortunately it seems that many are that stupid.oohaahmortimer said:
If anyone is stupid enough to think oh Matt Hancock is just misunderstood for his fuck ups because he’s done alright in the jungle then that’s their own fuckwitteryME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.2 -
You been voting for Hancock then @ME14addick?0
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And to be clear, that doesnt refer to the "must be stupid" comment above mine which I've only just seen!Off_it said:You been voting for Hancock then @ME14addick?0 -
What evidence do you have for this? Surely not because people want to see more of him in a reality tv show where you have to do disgusting trials?ME14addick said:
Unfortunately it seems that many are that stupid.oohaahmortimer said:
If anyone is stupid enough to think oh Matt Hancock is just misunderstood for his fuck ups because he’s done alright in the jungle then that’s their own fuckwitteryME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.0 -
No, I don't vote at all, I'm not watching it, but I am angry that Matt Hancock's efforts in the jungle do seem to have convinced a lot of people that he's actually a decent person.Off_it said:You been voting for Hancock then @ME14addick?4 -
I'd be happy with any of Jill, Mike or Owen to win it.0
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Tha fact that he is still in the jungle for a start. I've seen many comments in the media suggesting that he has won over viewers whilst in the jungle.ValleyGary said:
What evidence do you have for this? Surely not because people want to see more of him in a reality tv show where you have to do disgusting trials?ME14addick said:
Unfortunately it seems that many are that stupid.oohaahmortimer said:
If anyone is stupid enough to think oh Matt Hancock is just misunderstood for his fuck ups because he’s done alright in the jungle then that’s their own fuckwitteryME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.0 -
You can be a decent person and be incompetent at your job. It is not one or the otherME14addick said:
No, I don't vote at all, I'm not watching it, but I am angry that Matt Hancock's efforts in the jungle do seem to have convinced a lot of people that he's actually a decent person.Off_it said:You been voting for Hancock then @ME14addick?0 -
He wasn't just incompetent though, he was actively corrupt.MrOneLung said:
You can be a decent person and be incompetent at your job. It is not one or the otherME14addick said:
No, I don't vote at all, I'm not watching it, but I am angry that Matt Hancock's efforts in the jungle do seem to have convinced a lot of people that he's actually a decent person.Off_it said:You been voting for Hancock then @ME14addick?2 -
It’s for a game show!!!! Voting him in to eat kangaroo nuts doesn’t mean he’s been forgivenME14addick said:
Tha fact that he is still in the jungle for a start. I've seen many comments in the media suggesting that he has won over viewers whilst in the jungle.ValleyGary said:
What evidence do you have for this? Surely not because people want to see more of him in a reality tv show where you have to do disgusting trials?ME14addick said:
Unfortunately it seems that many are that stupid.oohaahmortimer said:
If anyone is stupid enough to think oh Matt Hancock is just misunderstood for his fuck ups because he’s done alright in the jungle then that’s their own fuckwitteryME14addick said:
I was responding to @DamoNorthstand 's post.MrOneLung said:but what has that got to do with his performance in the jungle?As other contestants have said, there is a difference between Matt Hancock politician and Matt the jungle camp mateShould Owen not win because his acting in Hollyoaks is rubbish?
Should Jill not win as she was a liability when she came on in the Euros?
Should Seann not have been there for having an affair when he was on Strictly
Should Boy George not have been there for being convicted of false imprisonment ?
Matt Hancock is only in the jungle to improve his image and to deflect from decisions taken that affected many people's lives, that does not apply to any of the other contestants.1
