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FIFA World Cup - Qatar 2022

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  • Jammy French have piss easy opponents 
    France have never beat Poland at the World Cup, yes they have come up against each other
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,882
    Shame... Poland didnt deserve to advance!!

    Hate the fact too that the KO rounds mostly end up being Europe vs South America

    Great job Australia | United States | Senegal to avoid that so far

    Japan | Morocco | Ghana are the likely ones to join them
    Japan are unlikely to join them ! 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,362
    Cash will pocket Mbappe then slay the land of his upbringing. Poland will Greece their way to the final where they will beat Brazil 1-0 thanks to an own goal from Neymar
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    MrOneLung said:
    Shame... Poland didnt deserve to advance!!

    Hate the fact too that the KO rounds mostly end up being Europe vs South America

    Great job Australia | United States | Senegal to avoid that so far

    Japan | Morocco | Ghana are the likely ones to join them
    Japan are unlikely to join them ! 
    If they do it will be one of the great world cup stories and potentially knock Spain out!
  • MrOneLung said:
    Shame... Poland didnt deserve to advance!!

    Hate the fact too that the KO rounds mostly end up being Europe vs South America

    Great job Australia | United States | Senegal to avoid that so far

    Japan | Morocco | Ghana are the likely ones to join them
    Japan are unlikely to join them ! 
    True, but they're in the driving seat at the moment

    Least we've got one Nation through from each confederation already
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I really think there will be an upset Saturday 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,982
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I really think there will be an upset Saturday 
    Burton to win at MK Dons?
  • Some pretty uninspiring matches in the R16 so far. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,818

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,976
    edited November 2022
    Some pretty uninspiring matches in the R16 so far. 
    I suppose all 4 favourites to win their groups have so far and so you'd expect a clear favourite in each game to come out of that.

    But a) there's bound to be close games/surprises in those games and b) if not, the QFs will look very good.

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  • Some pretty uninspiring matches in the R16 so far. 
    I suppose all 4 favourites to win their groups have so far and so you'd expect a clear favourite in each game to come out of that.

    But a) there's bound to be close gajes/surprises in those games and b) if not, the QFs will look very good.
    Group E has the best chance of sending a "big" team through as runner up, if Spain and Germany both win tomorrow
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,079
    Poland were so poor that I now expect them to go and knock France out at the weekend 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,818
    edited November 2022
    Of the four group winners, England qualify with the best group stage record.

    A: Netherlands, 7pts +4
    B: England, 7pts +7
    C: Argentina, 6pts +3
    D; France, 6pts +3


  • Told you they win it 
    it’s all done 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    Incredible entertainment at the end of that Saudi/Mexico game.

    Shame they’ve both gone out. Both had massive fanbases in Doha and their games had some of the best atmosphere yet.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,232
    Few surprises over 3 games. Argentina were always getting 6 points even after losing their first game. 
  • It was a weak group and they made a meal out of it. 
  • Argentina have the luck of the draw in this tournament. Shouldn't play a top side before the semis and that group was the lowest quality of all imo.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,516
    I'm not sure how anybody says the 2nd round doesn't look interesting.

    It's the World Cup ffs!
  • I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever! 

    I was really willing Mexico to knick a late goal, Poland deserved to lose by a few more really and always get the hype of underdogs, have a chance mostly as Lewangoalksi.

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  • I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever! 

    I was really willing Mexico to knick a late goal, Poland deserved to lose by a few more really and always get the hype of underdogs, have a chance mostly as Lewangoalksi.
    In fairness the yellow card thing is something like the 8th tiebreaker. Not sure what else FIFA could propose before they're forced to draw lots, maybe shots on target across all games?
  • I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever! 

    I was really willing Mexico to knick a late goal, Poland deserved to lose by a few more really and always get the hype of underdogs, have a chance mostly as Lewangoalksi.
    In fairness the yellow card thing is something like the 8th tiebreaker. Not sure what else FIFA could propose before they're forced to draw lots, maybe shots on target across all games?
    Shots on target is probably better, at least it encourages people to go for it, although I'd rather a shootout, even if it's the next day or however the logistics would work. The fact it's happened and nearly again, it needs to be looked into imo. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,599
    edited December 2022
    I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever!
    The worst rule is the very next one... Had Mexico | Poland tied on cards, then the team to advance would have been on the drawing of lots - How can something like that be decided on a game of chance, and off the Football pitch

    Bet if that ever happens, it'll only happen the once going forward, as bet there will be a lot of complaints about it
  • I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever!
    The worst rule is the very next one... Had Mexico | Poland tied on cards, then the team to advance would have been on the drawing of lots - How can something like that be decided on a game of chance, and off the Football pitch

    Bet if that ever happens, it'll only happen the once going forward, as bet there will be a lot of complaints about it
    What else is there I guess?

    2/3 of the time the teams will be at different grounds hundreds of miles away so you can't make them take penalties or whatever.

    You're left with lots, or something pretty arbitrary like how many shots they had on target in the 3 games.
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,457
    I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever!
    The worst rule is the very next one... Had Mexico | Poland tied on cards, then the team to advance would have been on the drawing of lots - How can something like that be decided on a game of chance, and off the Football pitch

    Bet if that ever happens, it'll only happen the once going forward, as bet there will be a lot of complaints about it
    What else is there I guess?

    2/3 of the time the teams will be at different grounds hundreds of miles away so you can't make them take penalties or whatever.

    You're left with lots, or something pretty arbitrary like how many shots they had on target in the 3 games.
    If there is a realistic prospect of two sides being tied on points, GD and goals scored, simply have each team send a keeper (they have at least 3) to the other ground and have a virtual penalty shootout with the other ground being shown on the big screens.
  • I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever!
    The worst rule is the very next one... Had Mexico | Poland tied on cards, then the team to advance would have been on the drawing of lots - How can something like that be decided on a game of chance, and off the Football pitch

    Bet if that ever happens, it'll only happen the once going forward, as bet there will be a lot of complaints about it
    What else is there I guess?

    2/3 of the time the teams will be at different grounds hundreds of miles away so you can't make them take penalties or whatever.

    You're left with lots, or something pretty arbitrary like how many shots they had on target in the 3 games.
    Thats where shots on target should maybe come into it

    But you're right on locations - 2018 was a perfect example (and 2026 will be) of a Geographical nightmare... England were based in St. Petersburg, Tunisia (Moscow) | Panama (Volga) | Belgium (Moscow) - Thats at least an hour flight if we needed to play a penalty shootout to decide 2nd spot.
  • I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever!
    The worst rule is the very next one... Had Mexico | Poland tied on cards, then the team to advance would have been on the drawing of lots - How can something like that be decided on a game of chance, and off the Football pitch

    Bet if that ever happens, it'll only happen the once going forward, as bet there will be a lot of complaints about it
    At Italia 90 in our group Ireland and Holland both had identical records and they had to draw lots to decide who was second and third. In those days the best third placed sides went through, but if it was today then one of them would've been out.

    Ireland actually reached the quarters despite scoring only 2 goals and not winning a game (the one game they did win was a shootout after a 0-0).
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,599
    edited December 2022
    I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever!
    The worst rule is the very next one... Had Mexico | Poland tied on cards, then the team to advance would have been on the drawing of lots - How can something like that be decided on a game of chance, and off the Football pitch

    Bet if that ever happens, it'll only happen the once going forward, as bet there will be a lot of complaints about it
    At Italia 90 in our group Ireland and Holland both had identical records and they had to draw lots to decide who was second and third. In those days the best third placed sides went through, but if it was today then one of them would've been out.

    Ireland actually reached the quarters despite scoring only 2 goals and not winning a game (the one game they did win was a shootout after a 0-0).
    Cheers I did wonder if that had ever happened previously - Was more thinking given the way Media blow things out of proportion, combined with Social Media, that if it happened again (this time impacting a team that got eliminated), there would probably be some massive shitstorm of a reaction.
  • I know it didn't come to it, but how on this earth are we getting into a situation where a team can go out based on the number of cards. I know it happened before, but most ridiculous rule ever!
    The worst rule is the very next one... Had Mexico | Poland tied on cards, then the team to advance would have been on the drawing of lots - How can something like that be decided on a game of chance, and off the Football pitch

    Bet if that ever happens, it'll only happen the once going forward, as bet there will be a lot of complaints about it
    At Italia 90 in our group Ireland and Holland both had identical records and they had to draw lots to decide who was second and third. In those days the best third placed sides went through, but if it was today then one of them would've been out.

    Ireland actually reached the quarters despite scoring only 2 goals and not winning a game (the one game they did win was a shootout after a 0-0).
    Cheers I did wonder if that had ever happened previously - Was more thinking given the way Media blow things out of proportion, combined with Social Media, that if it happened again (this time impacting a team that got eliminated), there would probably be some massive shitstorm of a reaction.
    Yes as far as i'm aware no side has ever been eliminated by the drawing of lots, and we've had 92 years of world cups, so it's probably really not worth worrying about too much.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,060
    Re Germany, Not sure if I’m being thick, but in the BBC preview it says:

    But the four-time champions now know they need to beat Costa Rican on Thursday, and hope Japan don't beat Spain.”

    Don’t Japan just need a draw to qualify as, even if Germany win, both teams would be on four points and Japan would finish above Germany on head to head?