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Peter Varney asking for big crowd for Brighton match (Potential Buyers?)
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DubaiCAFC said:The thing I don't really understand in all this at the moment, is why hasn't the identity of these people in the public? If they are going to in the public eye for the Brighton game, and PV is open about this. Surely there would be more in the press! Or few more rumours of who the party involved is...
Key people that normally have good inside knowledge on this type of stuff are very quiet as well! Them being Airman and Henry.. How confident are you about this takeover even happening, and do they have enough cash.
Just not sure why once you go on to social media to drum up a big crowd, no further detail becomes public... I have heard a couple of things, but nothing concrete.
It not as if Thomas isn't going to be aware! Just don't get the big hhhuuussshhhh.. All a little strange for my liking!Then there Is PV’s mystery investor in 2016 and Andrew Barclay’s unnamed partner in 2020 (whose identity I do know), neither of which were able to proceed at the time. I’m aware of at least one other recent interested party whose name hasn’t been publicly disclosed. They have “enough cash”.Against that you have the two Muirs and the ex-Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman, whose previous interest was publicised.
In short, it’s more usual than not for such people to want to remain anonymous and you can’t assume Brighton involves them sitting in a row in the directors’ box.
I don’t know who Peter is currently dealing with or how realistic it might be. I don’t think there is an “oven ready deal” to coin a phrase but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.14 -
DubaiCAFC said:CAFCsayer said:DubaiCAFC said:The thing I don't really understand in all this at the moment, is why hasn't the identity of these people in the public? If they are going to in the public eye for the Brighton game, and PV is open about this. Surely there would be more in the press! Or few more rumours of who the party involved is...
Key people that normally have good inside knowledge on this type of stuff are very quiet as well! Them being Airman and Henry.. How confident are you about this takeover even happening, and do they have enough cash.
Just not sure why once you go on to social media to drum up a big crowd, no further detail becomes public... I have heard a couple of things, but nothing concrete.
It not as if Thomas isn't going to be aware! Just don't get the big hhhuuussshhhh.. All a little strange for my liking!2 -
ShootersHillGuru said:DubaiCAFC said:CAFCsayer said:DubaiCAFC said:The thing I don't really understand in all this at the moment, is why hasn't the identity of these people in the public? If they are going to in the public eye for the Brighton game, and PV is open about this. Surely there would be more in the press! Or few more rumours of who the party involved is...
Key people that normally have good inside knowledge on this type of stuff are very quiet as well! Them being Airman and Henry.. How confident are you about this takeover even happening, and do they have enough cash.
Just not sure why once you go on to social media to drum up a big crowd, no further detail becomes public... I have heard a couple of things, but nothing concrete.
It not as if Thomas isn't going to be aware! Just don't get the big hhhuuussshhhh.. All a little strange for my liking!4 -
Airman Brown said:ShootersHillGuru said:DubaiCAFC said:CAFCsayer said:DubaiCAFC said:The thing I don't really understand in all this at the moment, is why hasn't the identity of these people in the public? If they are going to in the public eye for the Brighton game, and PV is open about this. Surely there would be more in the press! Or few more rumours of who the party involved is...
Key people that normally have good inside knowledge on this type of stuff are very quiet as well! Them being Airman and Henry.. How confident are you about this takeover even happening, and do they have enough cash.
Just not sure why once you go on to social media to drum up a big crowd, no further detail becomes public... I have heard a couple of things, but nothing concrete.
It not as if Thomas isn't going to be aware! Just don't get the big hhhuuussshhhh.. All a little strange for my liking!0 -
DubaiCAFC said:Airman Brown said:ShootersHillGuru said:DubaiCAFC said:CAFCsayer said:DubaiCAFC said:The thing I don't really understand in all this at the moment, is why hasn't the identity of these people in the public? If they are going to in the public eye for the Brighton game, and PV is open about this. Surely there would be more in the press! Or few more rumours of who the party involved is...
Key people that normally have good inside knowledge on this type of stuff are very quiet as well! Them being Airman and Henry.. How confident are you about this takeover even happening, and do they have enough cash.
Just not sure why once you go on to social media to drum up a big crowd, no further detail becomes public... I have heard a couple of things, but nothing concrete.
It not as if Thomas isn't going to be aware! Just don't get the big hhhuuussshhhh.. All a little strange for my liking!0 -
Airman Brown said:ShootersHillGuru said:DubaiCAFC said:CAFCsayer said:DubaiCAFC said:The thing I don't really understand in all this at the moment, is why hasn't the identity of these people in the public? If they are going to in the public eye for the Brighton game, and PV is open about this. Surely there would be more in the press! Or few more rumours of who the party involved is...
Key people that normally have good inside knowledge on this type of stuff are very quiet as well! Them being Airman and Henry.. How confident are you about this takeover even happening, and do they have enough cash.
Just not sure why once you go on to social media to drum up a big crowd, no further detail becomes public... I have heard a couple of things, but nothing concrete.
It not as if Thomas isn't going to be aware! Just don't get the big hhhuuussshhhh.. All a little strange for my liking!1 -
Airman Brown said:DubaiCAFC said:The thing I don't really understand in all this at the moment, is why hasn't the identity of these people in the public? If they are going to in the public eye for the Brighton game, and PV is open about this. Surely there would be more in the press! Or few more rumours of who the party involved is...
Key people that normally have good inside knowledge on this type of stuff are very quiet as well! Them being Airman and Henry.. How confident are you about this takeover even happening, and do they have enough cash.
Just not sure why once you go on to social media to drum up a big crowd, no further detail becomes public... I have heard a couple of things, but nothing concrete.
It not as if Thomas isn't going to be aware! Just don't get the big hhhuuussshhhh.. All a little strange for my liking!Then there Is PV’s mystery investor in 2016 and Andrew Barclay’s unnamed partner in 2020 (whose identity I do know), neither of which were able to proceed at the time. I’m aware of at least one other recent interested party whose name hasn’t been publicly disclosed. They have “enough cash”.Against that you have the two Muirs and the ex-Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman, whose previous interest was publicised.
In short, it’s more usual than not for such people to want to remain anonymous and you can’t assume Brighton involves them sitting in a row in the directors’ box.
I don’t know who Peter is currently dealing with or how realistic it might be. I don’t think there is an “oven ready deal” to coin a phrase but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.2 -
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Airman Brown said:but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.PV was involved with the TS takeover? Presumably he had no idea how a TS ownership would turn out?0
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Off_it said:paulsturgess said:I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Airman Brown said:This isn’t complicated. It’s easier for a potential owner to understand what things could be like by experiencing a packed Valley than looking at old videos or spreadsheets.
If you think the experience plays no part in such decisions you are misunderstanding why most people get involved in football.I don’t see what the downside is. Most of us would prefer to be in a bigger crowd with a better atmosphere.Some blindingly obvious answers to that question.
1) the interested party is going to the Brighton game but wasn’t going to the Cheltenham game.Shouldn’t really need anymore than that simple, black and white and unchallengable possible explanation, but for good measure , some other reasons
2) Cheltenham town would never bring more than 300 odd fans. Therefore to get the same fullish crowd in the stadium, you’d be asking 3,4,5k extra Charlton fans to turn up than you are for the Brighton game. Appreciate many already have tickets for Cheltenham and not Brighton but at £5-£15 and given the paltry crowds at home league games anyway atm I don’t think that necessarily undermines that (eg we had what 3k home fans V Stockport Vs probably 6k V Cheltenham, a net difference immediately wiped out by Brighton fans).
3) Brighton game with a big away showing would undoubtedly have better chance of creating a good atmosphere with a full+ away end. The atmosphere and experience at the valley can feel like a big/ even premier league game when that is the case even in modest league one crowds, eg against the likes of pompey, Sunderland etc in recent years. In contrast a fairly big home crowd can still feel like a non league fixture when played in front of a pitiful away turnout. Not reflective of the ‘potential experience’ you’d be aiming for or buying into.
4) most likely a mauling, sure, but a likelihood of a better game of football against a Premier League side than the non-league huff and puff of the bottom half of league one. Obviously we’re terrible but have already managed to put in respectable performances against QPR and Norwich this calendar year.
Just turn up.
I dont mean to be rude either, genuinely, but I think it might be you being "a bit simple" here by taking that post literally rather than in the tongue in cheek manner it was (I assume) intended.
Happy to be correct if it is in fact just me being dense.0 -
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Redmidland said:The only strange thing about this, in my mind, is, surely TS must know who's supposedly coming with PV, he must have asked or made enquiries?
The call went out, for people to attend, on main Social Media sites, TS must have seen/heard about it?
TS is not the type of person not to need to know what's happening, and if that's the case, the actions over the last 48hrs or so don't add up.
Why sack a manager, appoint a caretaker, if he is hoping to get out?
Just a couple of questions I've been unable to answer in my thoughts.1 -
PWR the last 20 odd pages, but if a potential buyer needs any convincing then they should look at the crowd for Donny and the number we took to Wembley in the not too distant past for clarification on fan "potential". Not a mid-week game in the 2nd cup comp against unglamorous (but premier league) oppo just before Xmas. And if PV is involved I'm sure he could provide them with this info tbf.1
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CAFCTrev said:Airman Brown said:but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.PV was involved with the TS takeover? Presumably he had no idea how a TS ownership would turn out?10
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Airman Brown said:CAFCTrev said:Airman Brown said:but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.PV was involved with the TS takeover? Presumably he had no idea how a TS ownership would turn out?0
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DA9 said:Airman Brown said:CAFCTrev said:Airman Brown said:but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.PV was involved with the TS takeover? Presumably he had no idea how a TS ownership would turn out?1
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Airman Brown said:DA9 said:Airman Brown said:CAFCTrev said:Airman Brown said:but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.PV was involved with the TS takeover? Presumably he had no idea how a TS ownership would turn out?0
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Airman Brown said:DA9 said:Airman Brown said:CAFCTrev said:Airman Brown said:but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.PV was involved with the TS takeover? Presumably he had no idea how a TS ownership would turn out?
We have been told, or led to believe that PV’s involvement is a deal stopper.0 -
It sounds like RD would have gone down the PV route if no one else was in the picture.0
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Okay so PV has got Spivs and TS involved so far… 3rd time lucky I hope.2
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DubaiCAFC said:Okay so PV has got Spivs and TS involved so far… 3rd time lucky I hope.44
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paulsturgess said:Airman Brown said:DA9 said:Airman Brown said:CAFCTrev said:Airman Brown said:but neither can you assume that RD won’t deal with someone because PV is involved - after all, he was involved with Sandgaard.PV was involved with the TS takeover? Presumably he had no idea how a TS ownership would turn out?5
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I’ve read the first 7 pages but nothing further.
I think that Peter had put £100 on with Ladbrokes that the attendance will be over 15,000 & then realising his silly mistake decided to gee-up the fan base with a cryptic ‘you must buy a ticket for Brighton game’ 🤔
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Airman Brown said:DubaiCAFC said:Okay so PV has got Spivs and TS involved so far… 3rd time lucky I hope.Let’s hope this new mob are better!1
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CAFCsayer said:DubaiCAFC said:Okay so PV has got Spivs and TS involved so far… 3rd time lucky I hope.
Yes, agree if like most and you don’t know the inner workings and can only judge on the pitch it was a fantastic time as a fan.
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DubaiCAFC said:Airman Brown said:DubaiCAFC said:Okay so PV has got Spivs and TS involved so far… 3rd time lucky I hope.Let’s hope this new mob are better!1
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I’ve missed about 15 pages of this thread but my thoughts are: Varney has met someone through business who mentioned they’d like to own a football club. Obviously, Varney has tried to push Charlton as an option. This person has probably never heard of Charlton and isn’t sure about the prospect. Varney has therefore invited them to the Brighton game knowing it’s the best chance we have of showing this individual or group that The Valley can be an exciting place and may be worth investing in. In this scenario I don’t think a deal has even been thought about, I think there’s just a potentially interested person and Varney is trying to spark a bit of enthusiasm in them to pursue us as an option. It’s nothing to do with a 20k crowd convincing someone to put a bid on the table, we’re nowhere that far along in the process.Of course I’m saying this with absolutely no knowledge of the situation but I am definitely not getting my hopes up for whoever is at the game being remotely close to taking us over yet.0
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Smithy said:I’ve missed about 15 pages of this thread but my thoughts are: Varney has met someone through business who mentioned they’d like to own a football club. Obviously, Varney has tried to push Charlton as an option. This person has probably never heard of Charlton and isn’t sure about the prospect. Varney has therefore invited them to the Brighton game knowing it’s the best chance we have of showing this individual or group that The Valley can be an exciting place and may be worth investing in. In this scenario I don’t think a deal has even been thought about, I think there’s just a potentially interested person and Varney is trying to spark a bit of enthusiasm in them to pursue us as an option. It’s nothing to do with a 20k crowd convincing someone to put a bid on the table, we’re nowhere that far along in the process.Of course I’m saying this with absolutely no knowledge of the situation but I am definitely not getting my hopes up for whoever is at the game being remotely close to taking us over yet.3