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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Shrewsbury Town: Saturday 1st April 2023: KO 3.00Pm

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  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,187
    In Kanazawa ,Japan. Trust me to be on holiday when we hit 6 for the first time in 50 years!!!
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    All I want to say about today is get Aaron Henry signed up to a new contract ASAP. His range of passing is phenomenal. We have some truly talented youngsters at our club. My worry is, I’m not going to live long enough to see these boys come to fruition.


  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    _MrDick said:
    All I want to say about today is get Aaron Henry signed up to a new contract ASAP. His range of passing is phenomenal. We have some truly talented youngsters at our club. My worry is, I’m not going to live long enough to see these boys come to fruition.


    I’m surprised he hasn’t had more minutes recently, would like to see more of him.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    _MrDick said:
    All I want to say about today is get Aaron Henry signed up to a new contract ASAP. His range of passing is phenomenal. We have some truly talented youngsters at our club. My worry is, I’m not going to live long enough to see these boys come to fruition.


    Henry is a classy player, but it was a very easy scenario for him to shine today. 5-0 up against a demoralised opponent with 10 men, it doesn't get much easier.
  • ParkinsonOut
    ParkinsonOut Posts: 1,467
    BOOM 💥💥💥💥💥💥
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  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,827
    Great to see a winning Charlton team with so many of our academy youngsters.

    Especially pleased to see young Zach Mitchell get his first experience in the league.
     I thought he slotted in seamlessly with glimpses of his dribbling & passing a real bonus.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,525
    So many good things to take out of that game. Very enjoyable and makes a pleasant change. A few more fine wins like this before the season is out and we will feel a bit more chipper going into the closed season.
  • Great to see a winning Charlton team with so many of our academy youngsters.

    Especially pleased to see young Zach Mitchell get his first experience in the league.
     I thought he slotted in seamlessly with glimpses of his dribbling & passing a real bonus.
    And his 18th birthday was only in January. 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited April 2023
    Leuth said:
    Pressing game absolutely on fire today. Let's see more of that from now on. The case for Fraser and Morgan grows more compelling.... 
    Yes, when you look at today’s match, no when you look at the whole season. For me they’re both too inconsistent to be in the engine room of a promotion chasing side. But yes, they turned it in today. 
    Very pleased for Terrell Thomas as well. So many had written him off before he’d even kicked a ball. 
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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Great performance, but also the type of performance that annoys me, and I imagine fucks others right off.

    Noticed it as well from a Louis Mendez tweet during the game, when he said that days like this, make performances like the 1-0 loss against Cheltenham even more frustrating.

    This group of players KNOW they can go out and there and put in performances like that, we're five (?) undefeated now - But we've had to endure Golfie during the Match, through no fault of his own, bemoaning the fact that we're competing with Fleetwood and Exeter for mid-table which to be fair to him is the truth of this campaign.

    Feels like the sort of typical match where everyone is putting in an effort for a new Contract, and then we risk going back to the norm next season with pointless soundbite interviews saying: "We knew last season wasnt good enough, we'll put it right again this coming year" - Well we got that last summer and for the most part its been much the same again... The likes of Morgan | Thomas | Clare (before he was subbed) were outstanding today, and put in a proper League One display... But can you honestly trust them to do it over a full season, and not be back in this exact situation again in a years time.

    Apologies for going on a rant... Leaburn was f**king outstanding... the whole team were and they do deserve to enjoy this 6-0 win - Just equally feels a small kick in the bollocks too
    A good point, although it should be noted that this group of players haven't played together fully fit much this season. And such is the nature of our squad that we don't have the quality in depth currently fit and in form to come in and replace anyone.

    I do think today shows us that we can be much better than the sides around us. With a little more squad depth we might have bettered Wycombe last weekend as well. With a couple of quality additions, this 11 could probably play any team in the league pretty tough, maybe excepting Sheffield Wednesday.

    I would argue the bigger problem is that six of the starters and 3/5 subs that came on are not contracted to the club next season. For some, that's fine, but once again we are left to rebuild half the first team in the summer because we didn't add enough depth last summer. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,875
    SDAddick said:
    Great performance, but also the type of performance that annoys me, and I imagine fucks others right off.

    Noticed it as well from a Louis Mendez tweet during the game, when he said that days like this, make performances like the 1-0 loss against Cheltenham even more frustrating.

    This group of players KNOW they can go out and there and put in performances like that, we're five (?) undefeated now - But we've had to endure Golfie during the Match, through no fault of his own, bemoaning the fact that we're competing with Fleetwood and Exeter for mid-table which to be fair to him is the truth of this campaign.

    Feels like the sort of typical match where everyone is putting in an effort for a new Contract, and then we risk going back to the norm next season with pointless soundbite interviews saying: "We knew last season wasnt good enough, we'll put it right again this coming year" - Well we got that last summer and for the most part its been much the same again... The likes of Morgan | Thomas | Clare (before he was subbed) were outstanding today, and put in a proper League One display... But can you honestly trust them to do it over a full season, and not be back in this exact situation again in a years time.

    Apologies for going on a rant... Leaburn was f**king outstanding... the whole team were and they do deserve to enjoy this 6-0 win - Just equally feels a small kick in the bollocks too
    A good point, although it should be noted that this group of players haven't played together fully fit much this season. And such is the nature of our squad that we don't have the quality in depth currently fit and in form to come in and replace anyone.

    I do think today shows us that we can be much better than the sides around us. With a little more squad depth we might have bettered Wycombe last weekend as well. With a couple of quality additions, this 11 could probably play any team in the league pretty tough, maybe excepting Sheffield Wednesday.

    I would argue the bigger problem is that six of the starters and 3/5 subs that came on are not contracted to the club next season. For some, that's fine, but once again we are left to rebuild half the first team in the summer because we didn't add enough depth last summer. 
    Of the players out of contract in the summer, I would suggest that other than JRS who won't be in L1 next season and probably Sessegnon, we have a realistic chance of retaining all of them IF Holden wants them AND we can have the ownership sorted in sensible time.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    Great to see a winning Charlton team with so many of our academy youngsters.

    Especially pleased to see young Zach Mitchell get his first experience in the league.
     I thought he slotted in seamlessly with glimpses of his dribbling & passing a real bonus.
    Mitchell started the game against Cheltenham in December.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,519
    edited April 2023
    Surprise result, but what a surprise it was! 

    Until we got our first, that game had all the makings of a typical, nothing to play for end of season 1-0 1-1 0-1 borefest. But, once we sent the first in, league ones most flakey players decided to turn it on and go for another 5. 

    Some excellent individual performances and team display. 

    I wouldn't say it confusing how we sometimes put on a decent show and other times look like a bunch of non league cloggers, simply, we're predominantly a team of inconsistent league one "stars" sure they mean well and might have the odd stand out attribute like their height, but in order to see a Plymouth or Shrewsbury level of performance everything just has to click at the same time,  and that won't happen often enough over a course of a season to see us challenge. 

    Great game today though so hats off, really went for it. 

    Leaburn is definitely a cut above but pretty confident we'll see him next season on a loan back, which I think we'll all be fine with.

    Edit: comment on Shrewsbury

    Didn't offer much of anything, for the first 10 minutes they looked like recreating garnerball with some slow build up and short passing had the slightest of a sniff towards our goal after crowding out JRS early in the first half but never looked like causing bmuch of a problem.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    Great game yesterday, we showed what we can produce - but make no bones about it, they were woeful.

    Leaburn unplayable 

    even Morgan was good but Henry to me is an upgrade on him
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,648
    Was their keeper, the one who called out a fan for comments made during the game a season or two back?
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,957
    Until we scored,this was a very difficult game which I was doubtful we would win.So 6-0 looks a doddle but we earnt that with what was at times some of the best football seen at the Valley for a long time.
    A shout for  2 players ,often much maligned,Innis has been superb recently,in this form,not many centre backs better than him in this league,stop the silly mistakes,stop the reckless tackles and we have a player to build our team round.
    Morgan,once again showed what he is capable of,hardly a misplaced pass,and ran all day.I think Holden has great faith in him and next season we will see how good he is.Of course not all the Hollywood passes make it,but does De Bryune not have a few cut out.With pace we have up front,the abundance of good defenders,I dont think we need more than 3-4 good additions to make a challenge next season.I await the LOLs

  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,169
    Kap10 said:
    Anyone know where I might be able to watch highlights, I’m in Budapest at the moment and sky video isn’t supported?
    Maybe Charltons you Tube channel
    Thanks.

    Totally forgot about that.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    Oggy Red said:
    ross1 said:
    Perhaps DH was right telling AM that he will give him a run of games, helps gives him confidence 
    Yep, I think that's great man-management.

    Obviously you can't do that with each and every player, but horses for courses and all that, if he thinks it could be the making of Albie to play without pressure and fear of making a mistake, and it gets the performances he's looking for, then that's smart by Holden.

    It's often been said that Albie dazzles on the training ground, if only he could transfer that self-belief consistently to his match day performances.


    Sorry but Morgan has shown too often that he can have the occasional "decent" game & then is awful for the next few. These are the players we should be shipping out otherwise nothing will change.
    Very easy to see the difference between Morgan and Henry. Too many back passes from Morgan with inaccurate attempted long passes. Henry goes forward with much better passes. A good goal from Morgan yesterday but his first touch was poor. 
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  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,623
    edited April 2023
    Not going to bother going back over all the comments but it’s worth mentioning more than once anyway is Shrewsbury came out and tried to bully and intimidate charlton and got ignored by a charlton team that in recent seasons have folded and gone to pieces when that’s happened. Highlight of that for me was Innis getting fouled in the second half and not immediately seeking to obliterate the guy who did it.
  • Look, let’s be honest.  It’s only now we’re beginning to reap the rewards of the Les Reed managerial era.   These things take time to come to fruition. 

    We all just need to be patient.  But we’re heading in the right direction.  Thank you Les.  


  • The season may be over for us, but it's still worth attending games to watch as a stand alone spectacle - providing we set out to compete seriously. 

    So many great individual performances yesterday.  Quite a privilege to witness Rak-Sakyi at this stage of his career.  For me he oozes quality - with the ease he beats players - and his involvement in making and scoring goals.  His timing on the ball is exceptional.  If he isn't a Premiership player in the making I'll eat my hat. 

     
  • aliwibble said:
    I'm on limited screen time at the mo, as I had an op on my bad eye just over a week ago, and my distance vision is still moderately buggered, so turning over to Final Score at about ten past five was a novel experience. Squinting as the score scrolled across the bottom of the screen trying to get it in focus: "Is that a 6? Nah, it must be a zero. Nil-nil then? Hang on... Fraser, Morgan, Rak-Sakyi... BLOODY HELL, it is 6! How on earth did we do that then?" Now waiting up for the highlights on ITV, but I may need to go sit nearer to the telly so I can see the ball. 😂
    A blind Charlton fan is a happy Charlton fan  ;)

    Good luck with your recuperation
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,054
    Was their keeper, the one who called out a fan for comments made during the game a season or two back?

    Yup and was in goal for Donny in the PO Semi Final too 
  • The season may be over for us, but it's still worth attending games to watch as a stand alone spectacle - providing we set out to compete seriously. 

    So many great individual performances yesterday.  Quite a privilege to witness Rak-Sakyi at this stage of his career.  For me he oozes quality - with the ease he beats players - and his involvement in making and scoring goals.  His timing on the ball is exceptional.  If he isn't a Premiership player in the making I'll eat my hat. 

     
    Has amazed me how little some of our fans rate him - I think they forget he is just starting out.
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,743
    ross1 said:
    Wait until you see us beaten by 11 goals, Aston Villa beat us when I was a lot younger. No doubt someone will tell me the year. If you see this, you will know you reach bottom of your support 
    That was the 59/60 season. Aston Villa were a good team and won the title that year. I remember the score coming up on the BBC teleprinter 11 (eleven) - 1, also in words in case you didn't believe it.  Mind you we were down to 9 players there were no subs then.

    I went to the return match at the Valley late that season, a big turn out that day looking for revenge and we won 2-0.

    We also won 6-1 twice at home that season against Portsmouth & Derby I can remember seeing one of those and saying to my Dad we're great we win by lots of goals. He replied no point winning by lots of goals if you go away and lose by lots of goals, which we did.  How good to be young and naive, by the time you learn what supporting Charlton is really like, its to late.