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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Shrewsbury Town: Saturday 1st April 2023: KO 3.00Pm
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Albie Morgan has improved Under Dean Holden and it has taken far too long but at last when a Central striker in Form: Leaburn, and a baller like Rak Sakyi as well as Dobson and Fraser on their game, then Morgan can run on to the ball with a great first touch and finish with aplomb with no one in row Z in any danger. 5 goals this season means I can't keep saying he "can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo".
Even yesterday when he scored a cracker, had assists, closed down and even had the sense to hand the ball to Miles for the penalty for another assist ! (If he had missed the haters would have screamed with bile) Albie still got one score of 5 On the Players marks !Most of our fans/critics recognised Morgan's all round performance TBF.
When/if we get better players in then Players are replaced in the starting 11. That should be the way forward. Morgan deserves the shirt with Dobson and Fraser in Midfield and Henry needs to step up and not only against a beaten team with 10 men because there was a risk of Dobbo getting another yellow.
Aaron Henry is only 19 ( made debut when 16) and he's still to truly break though. I wish he would sign a new contract and work with Holden and the coaches in pre season to see if he can kick on at Cafc.4 -
He must love playing at The Valley 😂😂MarcusH26 said:guinnessaddick said:Was their keeper, the one who called out a fan for comments made during the game a season or two back?
Yup and was in goal for Donny in the PO Semi Final too6 -
Just an observation, but reading some of the posts does make me smile..
It seems if we win especially well, like yesterday, it is because the opposition were shite, if we lose it's because we were shite, seems shite is important to so many people...🙄
We won yesterday because we were too good for them, even their manager was surprised at the score, never been beaten 6-0 before.
So, let's just wallow in the superior performance and creativity we showed, Bristol Rovers next on the list...14 -
Did the Shrewsbury keeper go under the knife for the same op just before you by any chance?aliwibble said:I'm on limited screen time at the mo, as I had an op on my bad eye just over a week ago, and my distance vision is still moderately buggered, so turning over to Final Score at about ten past five was a novel experience. Squinting as the score scrolled across the bottom of the screen trying to get it in focus: "Is that a 6? Nah, it must be a zero. Nil-nil then? Hang on... Fraser, Morgan, Rak-Sakyi... BLOODY HELL, it is 6! How on earth did we do that then?" Now waiting up for the highlights on ITV, but I may need to go sit nearer to the telly so I can see the ball. 😂6 -
Did anyone at the match or on Charlton TV or illegal viewing see CLEARLY if it was or not a penalty ? Charlton fans saying it was a harsh penalty when the ref was closer and had a better view than them. I just can't tell.
Didn't affect the result but we wouldn't have won the first set 6-0 without the red card !
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I've seen an angle that shows the ball goes beyond JRS and hits Flanagan, who had his arms out. Very good spot by the officials because it wasn't clear to the naked eye.soapboxsam said:Did anyone at the match or on Charlton TV or illegal viewing see CLEARLY if it was or not a penalty ? Charlton fans saying it was a harsh penalty when the ref was closer and had a better view than them. I just can't tell.
Didn't affect the result but we wouldn't have won the first set 6-0 without the red card !
What was the consensus on Charlton TV ?4 -
Didn’t see it as a penalty from the angle I had in the lower north but there was a clear shout elsewhere and from the fans where the linesman would have had a clearer view and it looked like the ref looked to him momentarily before giving the penalty.0
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He should, he's a Charlton legend. Palmed the ball into Pratley's path for the equaliser a minute after Donny had taken the lead and I'd lost hope. He's my heroguinnessaddick said:
He must love playing at The Valley 😂😂MarcusH26 said:guinnessaddick said:Was their keeper, the one who called out a fan for comments made during the game a season or two back?
Yup and was in goal for Donny in the PO Semi Final too
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For the person in the match thread saying the game was like watching a game of dominoes.
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What’s the chances of another loan for JRS next season? Zero?3
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What part of ‘grumpy’ don’t you get?eastterrace6168 said:
Bloody hell man, we WON 6-0, now then give us a smile, it won't hurt as much as you think...really...🙄grumpyaddick said:Very nice win but let's be honest, entirely meaningless.
The.bloke involved in the first three goals plays for Palace and won't be at Charlton next season.
Both teams are mid table League 1 with nothing to play for. As soon as any team puts up a fight,. we crumble. Fortunately, they didn't have to. .
I had a sleep in the second.half to be honest.2 -
Anyone got some Shrewsbury forums reaction to the result.
I don’t know how to copy and post their comments. 🫤0 -
Every part, just trying to cheer him up, which I know can be an endless task...🙄AddicksAddict said:
What part of ‘grumpy’ don’t you get?eastterrace6168 said:
Bloody hell man, we WON 6-0, now then give us a smile, it won't hurt as much as you think...really...🙄grumpyaddick said:Very nice win but let's be honest, entirely meaningless.
The.bloke involved in the first three goals plays for Palace and won't be at Charlton next season.
Both teams are mid table League 1 with nothing to play for. As soon as any team puts up a fight,. we crumble. Fortunately, they didn't have to. .
I had a sleep in the second.half to be honest.0 -
Futile I’d say.🙄eastterrace6168 said:
Every part, just trying to cheer him up, which I know can be an endless task...🙄AddicksAddict said:
What part of ‘grumpy’ don’t you get?eastterrace6168 said:
Bloody hell man, we WON 6-0, now then give us a smile, it won't hurt as much as you think...really...🙄grumpyaddick said:Very nice win but let's be honest, entirely meaningless.
The.bloke involved in the first three goals plays for Palace and won't be at Charlton next season.
Both teams are mid table League 1 with nothing to play for. As soon as any team puts up a fight,. we crumble. Fortunately, they didn't have to. .
I had a sleep in the second.half to be honest.0 -
We had 3 goalies that day(not all at once).Back in the day,we had some great scores,7-4 portsmouth,6-4 Plymouth and an amazing 6-6 draw with Middlesbrough,who we had beaten 8-1 a few years before.We did also beat Luton 6-1 away.Those where the days.StrikerFirmani said:
That was the 59/60 season. Aston Villa were a good team and won the title that year. I remember the score coming up on the BBC teleprinter 11 (eleven) - 1, also in words in case you didn't believe it. Mind you we were down to 9 players there were no subs then.ross1 said:Wait until you see us beaten by 11 goals, Aston Villa beat us when I was a lot younger. No doubt someone will tell me the year. If you see this, you will know you reach bottom of your support
I went to the return match at the Valley late that season, a big turn out that day looking for revenge and we won 2-0.
We also won 6-1 twice at home that season against Portsmouth & Derby I can remember seeing one of those and saying to my Dad we're great we win by lots of goals. He replied no point winning by lots of goals if you go away and lose by lots of goals, which we did. How good to be young and naive, by the time you learn what supporting Charlton is really like, its to late.2 -
I saw them all…..most exciting and lethal set of forwards for much of that time and worthy of playing in the then 1st Division, best group I’ve ever seen…..however unfortunately, without a defence to match.thickandthin63 said:
We had 3 goalies that day(not all at once).Back in the day,we had some great scores,7-4 portsmouth,6-4 Plymouth and an amazing 6-6 draw with Middlesbrough,who we had beaten 8-1 a few years before.We did also beat Luton 6-1 away.Those where the days.StrikerFirmani said:
That was the 59/60 season. Aston Villa were a good team and won the title that year. I remember the score coming up on the BBC teleprinter 11 (eleven) - 1, also in words in case you didn't believe it. Mind you we were down to 9 players there were no subs then.ross1 said:Wait until you see us beaten by 11 goals, Aston Villa beat us when I was a lot younger. No doubt someone will tell me the year. If you see this, you will know you reach bottom of your support
I went to the return match at the Valley late that season, a big turn out that day looking for revenge and we won 2-0.
We also won 6-1 twice at home that season against Portsmouth & Derby I can remember seeing one of those and saying to my Dad we're great we win by lots of goals. He replied no point winning by lots of goals if you go away and lose by lots of goals, which we did. How good to be young and naive, by the time you learn what supporting Charlton is really like, its to late.This frustratingly sentenced us to decades in Division 2 under the Michael Glikstein era of underachieving and lack of his inept lack of ambition.5 -
I didn’t clearly see our penalty, but I clearly saw Dobbo get away with a deliberate handball in our area just before half time.
Great win.1 -
I'll take the credit for our up turn in form because after the Accrington game I haven't done any more than take note of the goals on soccer Saturday.
I would say though that the 12 players that have played most of the minutes in the last 4 or 5 games aren't the major problem. Add in Woolacott, Ness, Egbo and CBT and you have got a base of a decent squad at this level. The problem is the others TBH.
What we need is 5 or 6 players that our good enough to be in our best team, not 5 or 6 players that aren't good enough to be in the squad. Replace the worst 5 with 5 that will be amongst our best 7 or 8 players and we would be well on the way.
If we had played that 11 week in week out we would still miss out on the play offs, but not by much. If we were relying on the likes of Penny, Bonne, Clayden, Payne, Chinn at left back not to mention the Burton Two and McGrandles, as we had been earlier in the season, we would be bothering the bottom.2 -
And so a yellow card, as it wasn’t his first the red card is not harsh at all.LouisMend said:
I've seen an angle that shows the ball goes beyond JRS and hits Flanagan, who had his arms out. Very good spot by the officials because it wasn't clear to the naked eye.soapboxsam said:Did anyone at the match or on Charlton TV or illegal viewing see CLEARLY if it was or not a penalty ? Charlton fans saying it was a harsh penalty when the ref was closer and had a better view than them. I just can't tell.
Didn't affect the result but we wouldn't have won the first set 6-0 without the red card !
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Personally I think that fella had repeatedly f***ed the ref off since the first half and the ref couldn’t wait to pin something on himLouisMend said:
I've seen an angle that shows the ball goes beyond JRS and hits Flanagan, who had his arms out. Very good spot by the officials because it wasn't clear to the naked eye.soapboxsam said:Did anyone at the match or on Charlton TV or illegal viewing see CLEARLY if it was or not a penalty ? Charlton fans saying it was a harsh penalty when the ref was closer and had a better view than them. I just can't tell.
Didn't affect the result but we wouldn't have won the first set 6-0 without the red card !
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As it was in the area and if the ref considers it a goal scoring chance, red cardAddicksAddict said:
And so a yellow card, as it wasn’t his first the card is not harsh at all.LouisMend said:
I've seen an angle that shows the ball goes beyond JRS and hits Flanagan, who had his arms out. Very good spot by the officials because it wasn't clear to the naked eye.soapboxsam said:Did anyone at the match or on Charlton TV or illegal viewing see CLEARLY if it was or not a penalty ? Charlton fans saying it was a harsh penalty when the ref was closer and had a better view than them. I just can't tell.
Didn't affect the result but we wouldn't have won the first set 6-0 without the red card !
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watching on CTV when the pen was awarded Morgan held the ball, the camera then moved away and when it returned Leaburn was preparing to take the pen. How did the decision to give it to Leaburn happen?1
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Great performance and so pleased for those there - the epitomy of a dull, meaningless fixture so if you were there yesterday then you are proper charlton and no fairweather merchant and got a little bit of payback for some of the torturous offerings this season. The difference in our play once we got the second was noticeable - we rarely go 2 goals up at home but suddenly we were and we were pinging it around playing proper pass and move football and looked a different level to shrewsbury all over the pitch. The front 3 are a good blend and had they been available all season, we'd definitely be higher. Campbell isn't quite as quick as CBT but is still very quick and has much better end product. Hopefully we have the funds to keep who we want to keep. Hector a definite if we can get him. Priority is a top drawer striker and centre mid to help Fraser, Dobbo and Leaburn and a replacement for rak saki who will be a big loss.
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For our second I hadn't seen the ref signal play on so just assumed it was another of those fouls that dirty teams seem to be able to make against us with impunity. Of the three penalty calls, I didn't see the ball hit Flanagan's arm - it seemed harsh. The ball hitting Dobbo's arm would have been a very harsh penalty. And the one where Campbell was brought down could have gone either way. What I liked about the ref was that he didn't stand for the sort of tactics Shrewsbury/Wycombe/Accrington usually use. And for once we were in a position to benefit1
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Don't get many 6 goal wins if you're a Charlton fan so that ranks up there even if it was in this poxy league.
A particular personal highlight was that I described the first goal in precise detail before Scotty Fraser had even shaped up to take the kick. I do something similar every game and am invariably wrong so this was a nice change 👌
Also nice to bump into AFKA at half time and got a nice hug off his obviously very chuffed lad.
As others have said, the subs introduced when we were 4 up had a relatively easy task but nevertheless Mitchell showed amazing ability and composure for someone so young and inexperienced, and Aaron Henry showed he can really spray passes around. Two excellent cameos that bode well for their first team chances. I'd be very happy to have both in our first team squad next season. Ditto for Tyreece Campbell. He has really stepped up and CBT's absence isn't really a problem at all.8 -
Thanks to DH and the squad for making us all a lot happier this weekend.2
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lancashire lad said:watching on CTV when the pen was awarded Morgan held the ball, the camera then moved away and when it returned Leaburn was preparing to take the pen. How did the decision to give it to Leaburn happen?
Well Lancashire lad, what happened was Albie Morgan was having a very good game, had already scored probably his best ever goal, had an assist, been closing down well and thought 🤔 if I emulate Nicky Bailey penalty taking, instead of getting 7.5's I will get 5.5's because in the wacky world of football that is what Will be remembered by critics.
Taken awhile but Morgan is making good decisions and handing the ball to Miles Leaburn was bright.5 -
Probably because Miles is the designated penalty taker. Morgan initially had the ball because he picked it up when the penalty was awarded and then shielded it on the spot when a Shrews player was trying to scuff it up for some reason. I don’t think Albie gave it up of his own accord as some would like you to think.lancashire lad said:watching on CTV when the pen was awarded Morgan held the ball, the camera then moved away and when it returned Leaburn was preparing to take the pen. How did the decision to give it to Leaburn happen?4
