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So what your saying is half ITV's EFL audience went to the EFL Trophy final so half the ITV audience for AEW will go to AEW 😉Manic_mania said:
what was the attendance at Wembley for Bolton V Plymouth btw... how many did they each get the game or even ten home games before?Friend Or Defoe said:Dynamite got 67k last week. The EFL highlight show 180k. Getting 40k or so will need Some great marketing.
if we want to talk about numbers ya know...
If you want to talk numbers Revolution had 8,000 paid in a 20k arena. With about 150k PPV buys world wide.
Without know anything about the card, is it going to have NJPW and basically anyone that isn't signed for WWE on it? Or the ticket pricing, any guess at attendance is a bit futile at the moment but to do the biggest stadium possible for your first ever show in a market is interesting. There is often a fine line between insanity amd genius.
Time will tell if this rivals Wrestlemania 3 or clash of the champions 6. Probably somewhere in the middle.
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Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy0 -
yes. Jesus.Friend Or Defoe said:
Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy
What's the NFL viewing figures in the UK? Pretty sure they do ok when they turn up here. Using viewing figures to predict an event is stupid.
We will see when it comes to the event.
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No obviously not. I'm saying trying to predict a PPV audience based on what TV does is stupid. Which it is.Cafc43v3r said:
So what your saying is half ITV's EFL audience went to the EFL Trophy final so half the ITV audience for AEW will go to AEW 😉Manic_mania said:
what was the attendance at Wembley for Bolton V Plymouth btw... how many did they each get the game or even ten home games before?Friend Or Defoe said:Dynamite got 67k last week. The EFL highlight show 180k. Getting 40k or so will need Some great marketing.
if we want to talk about numbers ya know...
If you want to talk numbers Revolution had 8,000 paid in a 20k arena. With about 150k PPV buys world wide.
Without know anything about the card, is it going to have NJPW and basically anyone that isn't signed for WWE on it? Or the ticket pricing, any guess at attendance is a bit futile at the moment but to do the biggest stadium possible for your first ever show in a market is interesting. There is often a fine line between insanity amd genius.
Time will tell if this rivals Wrestlemania 3 or clash of the champions 6. Probably somewhere in the middle.1 -
The last superbowl on the BBC had over a million viewers.Manic_mania said:
yes. Jesus.Friend Or Defoe said:
Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy
What's the NFL viewing figures in the UK? Pretty sure they do ok when they turn up here. Using viewing figures to predict an event is stupid.
We will see when it comes to the event.
Viewing figures were just to see how popular it is here. I expect only a small percentage of the population know what AEW is. 40k may happen but it won't come easy, it's a gigantic step into the unknown for them.0 -
We will see then won't we. Giving a one word dismissive response is a disrespectful and childish way to debate someone you disagree with. At least you gave me a more adult response, so thanks for that.Friend Or Defoe said:
The last superbowl on the BBC had over a million viewers.Manic_mania said:
yes. Jesus.Friend Or Defoe said:
Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy
What's the NFL viewing figures in the UK? Pretty sure they do ok when they turn up here. Using viewing figures to predict an event is stupid.
We will see when it comes to the event.
Viewing figures were just to see how popular it is here. I expect only a small percentage of the population know what AEW is. 40k may happen but it won't come easy, it's a gigantic step into the unknown for them.2 -
Which I actually said in the 3rd paragraph...Manic_mania said:
No obviously not. I'm saying trying to predict a PPV audience based on what TV does is stupid. Which it is.Cafc43v3r said:
So what your saying is half ITV's EFL audience went to the EFL Trophy final so half the ITV audience for AEW will go to AEW 😉Manic_mania said:
what was the attendance at Wembley for Bolton V Plymouth btw... how many did they each get the game or even ten home games before?Friend Or Defoe said:Dynamite got 67k last week. The EFL highlight show 180k. Getting 40k or so will need Some great marketing.
if we want to talk about numbers ya know...
If you want to talk numbers Revolution had 8,000 paid in a 20k arena. With about 150k PPV buys world wide.
Without know anything about the card, is it going to have NJPW and basically anyone that isn't signed for WWE on it? Or the ticket pricing, any guess at attendance is a bit futile at the moment but to do the biggest stadium possible for your first ever show in a market is interesting. There is often a fine line between insanity amd genius.
Time will tell if this rivals Wrestlemania 3 or clash of the champions 6. Probably somewhere in the middle.
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Yes but you put words in my mouth that I had to respond to, which is why i didn't challenge anything else you said.Cafc43v3r said:
Which I actually said in the 3rd paragraph...Manic_mania said:
No obviously not. I'm saying trying to predict a PPV audience based on what TV does is stupid. Which it is.Cafc43v3r said:
So what your saying is half ITV's EFL audience went to the EFL Trophy final so half the ITV audience for AEW will go to AEW 😉Manic_mania said:
what was the attendance at Wembley for Bolton V Plymouth btw... how many did they each get the game or even ten home games before?Friend Or Defoe said:Dynamite got 67k last week. The EFL highlight show 180k. Getting 40k or so will need Some great marketing.
if we want to talk about numbers ya know...
If you want to talk numbers Revolution had 8,000 paid in a 20k arena. With about 150k PPV buys world wide.
Without know anything about the card, is it going to have NJPW and basically anyone that isn't signed for WWE on it? Or the ticket pricing, any guess at attendance is a bit futile at the moment but to do the biggest stadium possible for your first ever show in a market is interesting. There is often a fine line between insanity amd genius.
Time will tell if this rivals Wrestlemania 3 or clash of the champions 6. Probably somewhere in the middle.0 -
I put a wink 😉 at the end of it because it wasn't a serious response.Manic_mania said:
Yes but you put words in my mouth that I had to respond to, which is why i didn't challenge anything else you said.Cafc43v3r said:
Which I actually said in the 3rd paragraph...Manic_mania said:
No obviously not. I'm saying trying to predict a PPV audience based on what TV does is stupid. Which it is.Cafc43v3r said:
So what your saying is half ITV's EFL audience went to the EFL Trophy final so half the ITV audience for AEW will go to AEW 😉Manic_mania said:
what was the attendance at Wembley for Bolton V Plymouth btw... how many did they each get the game or even ten home games before?Friend Or Defoe said:Dynamite got 67k last week. The EFL highlight show 180k. Getting 40k or so will need Some great marketing.
if we want to talk about numbers ya know...
If you want to talk numbers Revolution had 8,000 paid in a 20k arena. With about 150k PPV buys world wide.
Without know anything about the card, is it going to have NJPW and basically anyone that isn't signed for WWE on it? Or the ticket pricing, any guess at attendance is a bit futile at the moment but to do the biggest stadium possible for your first ever show in a market is interesting. There is often a fine line between insanity amd genius.
Time will tell if this rivals Wrestlemania 3 or clash of the champions 6. Probably somewhere in the middle.0 -
Fair. sorryCafc43v3r said:
I put a wink 😉 at the end of it because it wasn't a serious response.Manic_mania said:
Yes but you put words in my mouth that I had to respond to, which is why i didn't challenge anything else you said.Cafc43v3r said:
Which I actually said in the 3rd paragraph...Manic_mania said:
No obviously not. I'm saying trying to predict a PPV audience based on what TV does is stupid. Which it is.Cafc43v3r said:
So what your saying is half ITV's EFL audience went to the EFL Trophy final so half the ITV audience for AEW will go to AEW 😉Manic_mania said:
what was the attendance at Wembley for Bolton V Plymouth btw... how many did they each get the game or even ten home games before?Friend Or Defoe said:Dynamite got 67k last week. The EFL highlight show 180k. Getting 40k or so will need Some great marketing.
if we want to talk about numbers ya know...
If you want to talk numbers Revolution had 8,000 paid in a 20k arena. With about 150k PPV buys world wide.
Without know anything about the card, is it going to have NJPW and basically anyone that isn't signed for WWE on it? Or the ticket pricing, any guess at attendance is a bit futile at the moment but to do the biggest stadium possible for your first ever show in a market is interesting. There is often a fine line between insanity amd genius.
Time will tell if this rivals Wrestlemania 3 or clash of the champions 6. Probably somewhere in the middle.0 - Sponsored links:
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40k would still be double their current record gate.Friend Or Defoe said:
The last superbowl on the BBC had over a million viewers.Manic_mania said:
yes. Jesus.Friend Or Defoe said:
Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy
What's the NFL viewing figures in the UK? Pretty sure they do ok when they turn up here. Using viewing figures to predict an event is stupid.
We will see when it comes to the event.
Viewing figures were just to see how popular it is here. I expect only a small percentage of the population know what AEW is. 40k may happen but it won't come easy, it's a gigantic step into the unknown for them.
Interesting that the RAW branded house show in Manchester at the end of the month has sold out, tickets weren't cheap and I haven't seen it advertised anywhere at all. That's a 20k seat arena. I assume Birmingham the night before is sold out as well?
Plenty of tickets left to see Will Ospreay in the Doncaster Dome the week before though (capacity 1,200).1 -
just to take the argumentative aspect out of things... what kind of figures does WWE do these days TV wise? I know the demand was HUGE for tickets to MITB - even though the prices were ridiculous. I remember going during the height of Attitude and it never felt that steep?Friend Or Defoe said:
The last superbowl on the BBC had over a million viewers.Manic_mania said:
yes. Jesus.Friend Or Defoe said:
Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy
What's the NFL viewing figures in the UK? Pretty sure they do ok when they turn up here. Using viewing figures to predict an event is stupid.
We will see when it comes to the event.
Viewing figures were just to see how popular it is here. I expect only a small percentage of the population know what AEW is. 40k may happen but it won't come easy, it's a gigantic step into the unknown for them.0 -
About 50k people watch RAW and Smackdown Live. Which is obviously a lot less than watch Dynamite but it only includes the Live show on BT sport, it doesn't include DVR, the repeats of which there are about 3 each or people that watch it on the net work.Manic_mania said:
just to take the argumentative aspect out of things... what kind of figures does WWE do these days TV wise? I know the demand was HUGE for tickets to MITB - even though the prices were ridiculous. I remember going during the height of Attitude and it never felt that steep?Friend Or Defoe said:
The last superbowl on the BBC had over a million viewers.Manic_mania said:
yes. Jesus.Friend Or Defoe said:
Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy
What's the NFL viewing figures in the UK? Pretty sure they do ok when they turn up here. Using viewing figures to predict an event is stupid.
We will see when it comes to the event.
Viewing figures were just to see how popular it is here. I expect only a small percentage of the population know what AEW is. 40k may happen but it won't come easy, it's a gigantic step into the unknown for them.
In short no idea at all, I don't think anyone would actually know.0 -
I've hardly ever watched Raw live but i watch Raw every week, so viewing figures are hard to judge.
That said, as a casual fan of AEW, hiring Wembley stadium for their first UK show seems mental to me. I'm not sure they'll get anywhere close to filling it. Time will tell
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I watched RAW pretty much ever week for the best part of 15 years. Never watched it live once.Gravesend_Addick said:I've hardly ever watched Raw live but i watch Raw every week, so viewing figures are hard to judge.
That said, as a casual fan of AEW, hiring Wembley stadium for their first UK show seems mental to me. I'm not sure they'll get anywhere close to filling it. Time will tell0 -
You wanted me to carry out some statistical analysis for you, then, on a Charlton forum, told me about the football league trophy crowd and how they are two league one clubs. So apologies for being dismissive to that.Manic_mania said:
We will see then won't we. Giving a one word dismissive response is a disrespectful and childish way to debate someone you disagree with. At least you gave me a more adult response, so thanks for that.Friend Or Defoe said:
The last superbowl on the BBC had over a million viewers.Manic_mania said:
yes. Jesus.Friend Or Defoe said:
Jesus.Manic_mania said:https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21917982/almost-80000-fans-cram-into-wembley-for-bolton-v-plymouth-showing-why-premier-league-must-protect-our-lower-divisions/#:~:text=EFL-,Almost 80,000 fans cram into Wembley for Bolton v Plymouth,must protect our lower divisions&text=WHAT was the world's biggest football attendance this weekend?
for the record;
2 league one sides. Talk about niche.
now include fans from Europe as well? 40K easy
What's the NFL viewing figures in the UK? Pretty sure they do ok when they turn up here. Using viewing figures to predict an event is stupid.
We will see when it comes to the event.
Viewing figures were just to see how popular it is here. I expect only a small percentage of the population know what AEW is. 40k may happen but it won't come easy, it's a gigantic step into the unknown for them.
Comparing football crowds in the UK to wrestling crowds is obviously like comparing apples to bananas, but I'm pretty sure WWE used to get better ratings than some of the live games on Sky Sports.
According to Wikipedia (!) Dynamite has TV deals in Germany, Italy, France and Spain. It did have TV deals in Romania and Poland and can be seen on DAZN in Portugal, Sweden, Poland, Turkey, Romania and Czech Republic. No idea of the numbers, as if recordings don't count ratings are even more meaningless but that's more than I expected.0 -
Recordings watched within 7 days of broadcast count towards the consolidated viewing figures1
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One thing I have noticed that surprised me is the number of American's that think Ospreay is a household name and a massive star in the UK.0
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There aren't many household names in the UK. Obviously you have the World Of Sport generation, apparently sometimes it would get a higher rating than the cup final that afternoon, the source for that was someone associated with World Of Sport though! But American wise it's probably Hogan, Rock, Austin and maybe a few others like The Undertaker and film stars like Batista and Cena. Osprey could probably walk through Oxford Street hassle free.Cafc43v3r said:One thing I have noticed that surprised me is the number of American's that think Ospreay is a household name and a massive star in the UK.Loved the Trish turn on Raw. Was all set up for a boring Becky turn again then swerve~!
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Must be a huge drop in ratings from the Sky Sports to BT Sports then.MrOneLung said:Recordings watched within 7 days of broadcast count towards the consolidated viewing figures0 - Sponsored links:
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IIRC it was about 80% drop at the time.Friend Or Defoe said:
Must be a huge drop in ratings from the Sky Sports to BT Sports then.MrOneLung said:Recordings watched within 7 days of broadcast count towards the consolidated viewing figures0 -
I badly phrased that, I meant amongst the sort of fans you need to sell out Wembley. You have to be a hard core fan to know who he is, even when he was on Dynamite AEW didn't make him out to be a massive star.Friend Or Defoe said:
There aren't many household names in the UK. Obviously you have the World Of Sport generation, apparently sometimes it would get a higher rating than the cup final that afternoon, the source for that was someone associated with World Of Sport though! But American wise it's probably Hogan, Rock, Austin and maybe a few others like The Undertaker and film stars like Batista and Cena. Osprey could probably walk through Oxford Street hassle free.Cafc43v3r said:One thing I have noticed that surprised me is the number of American's that think Ospreay is a household name and a massive star in the UK.0 -
Apparently 45k have signed up for the early release tickets! 😲0
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Registering interest and actually buying tickets are 2 very different thingsFriend Or Defoe said:Apparently 45k have signed up for the early release tickets! 😲0 -
sam3110 said:
Registering interest and actually buying tickets are 2 very different thingsFriend Or Defoe said:Apparently 45k have signed up for the early release tickets! 😲
It's a phenomenal number regardless. I have a feeling they've done it to gauge the interest and therefore the ticket prices. I've signed up but if it's expensive I'll be giving it a miss, and I don't mean WWE expensive.
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I get my wrestling updates from bleacher report and they have almost every segment top ratings from Raw last night. Sounds like one of the better Monday Night Raws for a while.0
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The rumour of CM Punk’s return is gathering pace.
Being reported that it could be June 17th at the United Center in Chicago. Would coincide with the first episode of the new Saturday show AEW are planing.0 -
They need to cut their loses and get rid of him. As Seth said he's a cancer. However, Tony seems to utterly mental so i'll take the rumours seriously.1
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probably terrible in the long run, but if you are trying to fill Wembley? Plenty will pay to see itFriend Or Defoe said:They need to cut their loses and get rid of him. As Seth said he's a cancer. However, Tony seems to utterly mental so i'll take the rumours seriously.1
