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POST-MATCH THREAD: Ipswich Town vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 15th April 2023 | KO 3.00PM
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Think Curbs said in his book that both Fish | Rufus played, and neither were 100%HastingsRed said:
Seem to remember Viduka scoring 2 or 3...can't quite recall.ForeverAddickted said:
Leeds 6-1 instantly comes to mind, in terms of conceding that manyNapaAddick said:When is the last time we lost by 6 or more?
So at least they had an excuse
Still remember being one of the few who cheered when we made it 1-3 right on HT, thinking we'd make a comeback in the second half
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Losing 6-0 in L1 is pretty shocking - hard to feel any optimism for next season.
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Hard to believe you would tell players they were being let go at this point - wouldn’t you wait until you’d finished all your matches?0
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Can use the remaining four games in attempt to improve their YouTube Highlight realsEveshamAddick said:Hard to believe you would tell players they were being let go at this point0 -
Leuth said:
Of which one was rescinded! And c'mon, it's part of the charm. Vieira and Keane!Chunes said:
Hector was rubbish today.Leuth said:
It sounds like Hector was responsible for about 4 goals but Inniss has somehow stolen the fanbase's anger. He's cursedTellyTubby said:Tbf I didn't watch or even listen, but can I say 'fuck off innis'?
Innis has the worst disciplinary record in the top four leagues of English football.* Double anyone else.
Red Cards
Innis - 4
Casemiro - 2
Kamara - 2
Osho - 2
Platt - 2
Khan - 2
* Presume it is much worse than that, but can't find individual stats for National League and below. But note that no team in the National League has above four cards as an entire squad, while Innis has four to himself.
Ahhh ehhh whatever. Bet Holden puts him straight back in the side when he's availableYour love for Innis is bizarre. Have you hit your heard or something?3 -
I would hardly call the Amex stadium 'tinpot'. Have you seen it or are you remembering their old ground outside HoveEveshamAddick said:Hard to see why it’s so difficult for us to find a wealthy owner who wants a London club with a spacious ground and a proud tradition to come in and achieve success. Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth and even Palace have tinpot grounds compared to the Valley.
Someone with money is even bankrolling Millwall. Is there really nobody out there??3 -
Oh yes of course!ForeverAddickted said:
Can use the remaining four games in attempt to improve their YouTube Highlight realsEveshamAddick said:Hard to believe you would tell players they were being let go at this point0 -
That it for me. I’m now going to go on holiday and will not watch Cheltenham match. Take that you rotters! 🥸1
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Season has been dead since losing at Man Utd. I'm amazed so many fans make the effort for these away games. Mind you, I did similar back in the 80s I guess, though there was generally a relegation battle to be fought (with an occasional promotion race or dead rubber thrown in).3
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Do we need a squad player in midfield? Keeping in mind that Holden likes to keep a small squad anyway.esseffect said:
Morgan is inconsistent. Would keep as a squad player. Judging him today again Ipswich and saying he’s crap seems a bit harsh. The fickleness of fansNicholas said:And some of you want Morgan, bonne and innis to sign contracts. Fucking numpties
I'd like to see us bring in people who provide competition for first-team places rather than just make up the numbers.5 -
The Osprey are back in Poole Harbour. Most on migratory stopover heading further north.
But the pair that bred in the Harbour last year, the first for 200 years, are back and are mating and nest building and first egg due soon.
Oh, and Trains!
The first timetabled service between Wareham and Swanage since 1973 has started.
Thanks in most part to the Swanage Steam Railway Company who have been campaigning and restoring the line for years, having started with a mere one mile of track when I moved to the area back in 1987.
I refuse to be negative.
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Because we don't have a spacious ground. We don't have a ground. And the landlord wants 50 million quid for it...EveshamAddick said:Hard to see why it’s so difficult for us to find a wealthy owner who wants a London club with a spacious ground and a proud tradition to come in and achieve success. Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth and even Palace have tinpot grounds compared to the Valley.
Someone with money is even bankrolling Millwall. Is there really nobody out there??
Otherwise I'm sure there would be.0 -
Bloke is a wanker, always has been. Pray we never see him in a Charlton shirt again after this season.Croydon said:6 -
Well players do get injured. Morgan is the sort of player who can do a job for a few games, but if he is our best midfielder, or one of our best at the start of next season we are going nowhere fast. If we put an appropriate offer on the table and he signs it, I won't be complaining.Chunes said:
Do we need a squad player in midfield? Keeping in mind that Holden likes to keep a small squad anyway.esseffect said:
Morgan is inconsistent. Would keep as a squad player. Judging him today again Ipswich and saying he’s crap seems a bit harsh. The fickleness of fansNicholas said:And some of you want Morgan, bonne and innis to sign contracts. Fucking numpties
I'd like to see us bring in people who provide competition for first-team places rather than just make up the numbers.
My problem with Inniss is in his first season he was a major offensive option for us on set pieces and whilst he can sometimes still be, the overall effect has diminished. Yes, he has stayed fit, which is a big positive, but he seems more rigid in his play when he was pretty static to start with. Also, he wins headers so that is good but he is technically not a good headerer of the ball. I think he is in a similar category to Morgan though, probably worth a contract at the right wage but shouldn't be starting.1 -
I don’t think anyone is judging Morgan on yesterday. But yesterday confirmed what many of us believe already. He’s played over 100 games for us and has had a handful of decent ones. He isn’t good enough for a club aspiring to be anything other than low League 1 or League 2. It’s time to cut the apron strings and let him go and find a career at a level he can cope with.esseffect said:
Morgan is inconsistent. Would keep as a squad player. Judging him today again Ipswich and saying he’s crap seems a bit harsh. The fickleness of fansNicholas said:And some of you want Morgan, bonne and innis to sign contracts. Fucking numptiesHe’s not alone obviously. We have perhaps the makings of a spine of the team in AMB, Ness, Dobson & Leaburn, with a very good prospect in Mitchell as well. Despite yesterday, I’ve liked what I’ve seen of Hector and I’d have Clare & Fraser as squad players. We need at least 10 first team players and we can’t be doing the bulk of our buying in League 2 again.
I have absolutely no expectation that we will have an owner that will understand or fund this.8 -
Chin up mate you never know could even be another derby with QPR on the cardsoohaahmortimer said:I don’t give a fcuk about Bournemouth or Brighton but palace and scum being above us in different leagues and palace lights years away is what hurts.
I could survive if them muppets were in league one with us but now have to put up with us getting a hard on cos we’ve got a derby with poxy Leyton orient next year , fuck off … we’re tinpot0 -
It’s mad isn’t it. I get football is all about opinions, but I can’t quite work out where the disparity in views/opinions comes from. Perhaps I’m being too harsh and irrational in wanting not to see pretty much all of them bar one or two in the shirt again, but it does feel like I’m losing my mind a bit when I read comments like that.Croydon said:
I know this is a joke but it's fckin mad how many fans genuinely believe thiscabbles said:We’re just a few players off. There’s no need to rip it up and get rid of everyoneIt’s also the X will make a good squad player comments as well. Why? I really hope this result has put the final nail in the coffin for giving any of this lot, bar maybe Dobson and Leaburn, any sort of credence. The results say it all. For me, it’s not a viable argument that we just need 5 or 6 good players in6 -
Another way of framing the question, if the season were re-starting and Albie was a free agent, do you think Bolton, Ipswich, Derby, Sheff Weds, Barnsley, Peterborough or Plymouth would be looking to sign him as a squad player?MuttleyCAFC said:
Well players do get injured. Morgan is the sort of player who can do a job for a few games, but if he is our best midfielder, or one of our best at the start of next season we are going nowhere fast. If we put an appropriate offer on the table and he signs it, I won't be complaining.Chunes said:
Do we need a squad player in midfield? Keeping in mind that Holden likes to keep a small squad anyway.esseffect said:
Morgan is inconsistent. Would keep as a squad player. Judging him today again Ipswich and saying he’s crap seems a bit harsh. The fickleness of fansNicholas said:And some of you want Morgan, bonne and innis to sign contracts. Fucking numpties
I'd like to see us bring in people who provide competition for first-team places rather than just make up the numbers.
My problem with Inniss is in his first season he was a major offensive option for us on set pieces and whilst he can sometimes still be, the overall effect has diminished. Yes, he has stayed fit, which is a big positive, but he seems more rigid in his play when he was pretty static to start with. Also, he wins headers so that is good but he is technically not a good headerer of the ball. I think he is in a similar category to Morgan though, probably worth a contract at the right wage but shouldn't be starting.
Personally, I think he'd be far more likely to end up at the likes of MK, Bristol Rovers, Burton, etc.
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“Pretty shocking”? It’s a historically terrible result - our joint worst result in the third tier in history. Each player, coach and manager that participated in the debacle should wear it as a badge of shame forever more but I doubt that many of them give a stuff.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:Losing 6-0 in L1 is pretty shocking - hard to feel any optimism for next season.8 -
cabbles said:
It’s mad isn’t it. I get football is all about opinions, but I can’t quite work out where the disparity in views/opinions comes from. Perhaps I’m being too harsh and irrational in wanting not to see pretty much all of them bar one or two in the shirt again, but it does feel like I’m losing my mind a bit when I read comments like that.Croydon said:
I know this is a joke but it's fckin mad how many fans genuinely believe thiscabbles said:We’re just a few players off. There’s no need to rip it up and get rid of everyoneIt’s also the X will make a good squad player comments as well. Why? I really hope this result has put the final nail in the coffin for giving any of this lot, bar maybe Dobson and Leaburn, any sort of credence. The results say it all. For me, it’s not a viable argument that we just need 5 or 6 good players in
But the way we are playing isn't doing anything to stop us losing money any player that does come good will have to be sold on to recover some off our debt
If they only gave their best it might just boost our gates at home as I hate to think what it's going to be like at the Valley if we lose to MK it's bad enough already0 -
He would have been a great signing but how can you put that all on Scott?Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Do you know what budget he had? He can’t spend what he doesn’t have and surely it’s his job to negotiate?
If we gave Luongo 5k a week and he flopped you’d be moaning about him being profligate.1 -
That doesn't mean anything.SurreyHeathAddick said:
He would have been a great signing but how can you put that all on Scott?Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Do you know what budget he had? He can’t spend what he doesn’t have and surely it’s his job to negotiate?
If we gave Luongo 5k a week and he flopped you’d be moaning about him being profligate.0 -
Alan Smith if i recall was unplayable in that match. Didn't that game cement Peter Reid's job as manager.ForeverAddickted said:
Think Curbs said in his book that both Fish | Rufus played, and neither were 100%HastingsRed said:
Seem to remember Viduka scoring 2 or 3...can't quite recall.ForeverAddickted said:
Leeds 6-1 instantly comes to mind, in terms of conceding that manyNapaAddick said:When is the last time we lost by 6 or more?
So at least they had an excuse
Still remember being one of the few who cheered when we made it 1-3 right on HT, thinking we'd make a comeback in the second half1 -
So Mr Breakeven suddenly completely changed tack and agreed to giving someone £5k a week making them our top earner - while everything else suggested he was cutting costs to sell.Swisdom said:
TS had given it the green light as we really wanted him. Scott thought he knew best - or maybe someone else, like a prospective owner, overruled it.shirty5 said:
You can only work with the budget you are given.Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Failing to see how this is Scott’s fault. Try Sandgaard if you want to vent
Doesn't seem very likely does it.Luongo, actually sounds exactly like the type of signing he wanted.
Think you’ve been told a whopper there.3 -
Thank Jim always appreciate your feedback. Compelling as ever 👍🏼JamesSeed said:
That doesn't mean anything.SurreyHeathAddick said:
He would have been a great signing but how can you put that all on Scott?Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Do you know what budget he had? He can’t spend what he doesn’t have and surely it’s his job to negotiate?
If we gave Luongo 5k a week and he flopped you’d be moaning about him being profligate.3 -
My pleasure.SurreyHeathAddick said:
Thank Jim always appreciate your feedback. Compelling as ever 👍🏼JamesSeed said:
That doesn't mean anything.SurreyHeathAddick said:
He would have been a great signing but how can you put that all on Scott?Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Do you know what budget he had? He can’t spend what he doesn’t have and surely it’s his job to negotiate?
If we gave Luongo 5k a week and he flopped you’d be moaning about him being profligate.3 -
Absolutely appalled by that result. Feel sorry for the 1,000+ fans who travelled to Ipswich. Admire people like Fanny Fanackerpan, Airman etc who went to game. Think Holden and the players should have a whip round and give those fans a refund. Neighbour down the road and wife Ipswich fans they went to the game and got me a programme. Ashamed of CAFC at the moment, expect nothing on Tuesday, very depressing!1
