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POST-MATCH THREAD: Ipswich Town vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 15th April 2023 | KO 3.00PM
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Which ones?shirty5 said:
3 Seed, not 1JamesSeed said:
Just one of those in the JS era, and he was sacked shortly after.shirty5 said:Airman Brown said:Worst result in the third tier ever - matching 6-0 defeat at Southampton in 1921.
PS He was manager from ‘33-‘56.[Soz, should have looked at the table - actually, have read about the other two in the past].1 -
I know when he was manager, thank you.JamesSeed said:
Which ones?shirty5 said:
3 Seed, not 1JamesSeed said:
Just one of those in the JS era, and he was sacked shortly after.shirty5 said:Airman Brown said:Worst result in the third tier ever - matching 6-0 defeat at Southampton in 1921.
PS He was manager from ‘33-‘56.
6-0 Arsenal 1947
6-0 Newcastle 1952
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It’s reported online, here you go … not sure why there’s the need for the aggressive reply 😂SELR_addicks said:
Oh so you don't have a clue what our wages are like, got it.SurreyHeathAddick said:
Apologies re-looking online, he’d actually be Top 5 - worryingly it’s suggests we pay Fraser 7k a week.Chunes said:
What makes you think 5k per week is our top earner?SurreyHeathAddick said:
So Mr Breakeven suddenly completely changed tack and agreed to giving someone £5k a week making them our top earner - while everything else suggested he was cutting costs to sell.Swisdom said:
TS had given it the green light as we really wanted him. Scott thought he knew best - or maybe someone else, like a prospective owner, overruled it.shirty5 said:
You can only work with the budget you are given.Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Failing to see how this is Scott’s fault. Try Sandgaard if you want to vent
Doesn't seem very likely does it.Luongo, actually sounds exactly like the type of signing he wanted.
Think you’ve been told a whopper there.
Swisdom knows what he's talking about.
No wonder he was smiling yesterday… more like laughing all the way to the bank.
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Oh yeah, my bad. Should have looked at the table lol.shirty5 said:
I know when he was manager, thank you.JamesSeed said:
Which ones?shirty5 said:
3 Seed, not 1JamesSeed said:
Just one of those in the JS era, and he was sacked shortly after.shirty5 said:Airman Brown said:Worst result in the third tier ever - matching 6-0 defeat at Southampton in 1921.
PS He was manager from ‘33-‘56.
6-0 Arsenal 1947
6-0 Newcastle 19520 -
Unlike Ronnie I believe in what I say!RedChaser said:
If only Ronnie was as subtle as Leuth at it 😉.Covered End said:
It's nothing to do with love of Sarr or Inniss.esseffect said:Leuth said:
Of which one was rescinded! And c'mon, it's part of the charm. Vieira and Keane!Chunes said:
Hector was rubbish today.Leuth said:
It sounds like Hector was responsible for about 4 goals but Inniss has somehow stolen the fanbase's anger. He's cursedTellyTubby said:Tbf I didn't watch or even listen, but can I say 'fuck off innis'?
Innis has the worst disciplinary record in the top four leagues of English football.* Double anyone else.
Red Cards
Innis - 4
Casemiro - 2
Kamara - 2
Osho - 2
Platt - 2
Khan - 2
* Presume it is much worse than that, but can't find individual stats for National League and below. But note that no team in the National League has above four cards as an entire squad, while Innis has four to himself.
Ahhh ehhh whatever. Bet Holden puts him straight back in the side when he's availableYour love for Innis is bizarre. Have you hit your heard or something?
It's simply a ruse to get people to engage aka attention seeking.0 -
Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.2
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One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them.cafcsinger said:Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.
1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul
Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed0 -
Yeah mate I think he really poor from what I have seen. Maybe he has potential but should be nowhere near a league 1 starting 11. Loan would make sense to conference/league 2 to see if he improves. I know I'm being a tad harsh but not a fan of him at all.se9addick said:1 -
Like, numerous people have even expressed the plain falsehood that it was 5 reds, 4 after one was rescinded. Lying through their teeth to make his case seem weaker0
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Think there used to be more one sided score lines in the old days for various reasons, one of which was the no subs rule. You’d quite often have eleven v. nine after a couple of injuries.killerandflash said:
Only seen the last 2 of those. Interesting that there were none between 1983 and 2016, 33 years.shirty5 said:Airman Brown said:Worst result in the third tier ever - matching 6-0 defeat at Southampton in 1921.0 -
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They are disgusting if true. Stockley getting paid like 100k a goal. Jack Payne 5k a week FML.SurreyHeathAddick said:
It’s reported online, here you go … not sure why there’s the need for the aggressive reply 😂SELR_addicks said:
Oh so you don't have a clue what our wages are like, got it.SurreyHeathAddick said:
Apologies re-looking online, he’d actually be Top 5 - worryingly it’s suggests we pay Fraser 7k a week.Chunes said:
What makes you think 5k per week is our top earner?SurreyHeathAddick said:
So Mr Breakeven suddenly completely changed tack and agreed to giving someone £5k a week making them our top earner - while everything else suggested he was cutting costs to sell.Swisdom said:
TS had given it the green light as we really wanted him. Scott thought he knew best - or maybe someone else, like a prospective owner, overruled it.shirty5 said:
You can only work with the budget you are given.Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Failing to see how this is Scott’s fault. Try Sandgaard if you want to vent
Doesn't seem very likely does it.Luongo, actually sounds exactly like the type of signing he wanted.
Think you’ve been told a whopper there.
Swisdom knows what he's talking about.
No wonder he was smiling yesterday… more like laughing all the way to the bank.1 -
Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.Leuth said:
One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them.cafcsinger said:Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.
1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul
Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed1 -
What is truly dreadful is that there are only 3/4 first team regulars in that list. What a waste of money.cs1986 said:
They are disgusting if true. Stockley getting paid like 100k a goal. Jack Payne 5k a week FML.SurreyHeathAddick said:
It’s reported online, here you go … not sure why there’s the need for the aggressive reply 😂SELR_addicks said:
Oh so you don't have a clue what our wages are like, got it.SurreyHeathAddick said:
Apologies re-looking online, he’d actually be Top 5 - worryingly it’s suggests we pay Fraser 7k a week.Chunes said:
What makes you think 5k per week is our top earner?SurreyHeathAddick said:
So Mr Breakeven suddenly completely changed tack and agreed to giving someone £5k a week making them our top earner - while everything else suggested he was cutting costs to sell.Swisdom said:
TS had given it the green light as we really wanted him. Scott thought he knew best - or maybe someone else, like a prospective owner, overruled it.shirty5 said:
You can only work with the budget you are given.Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Failing to see how this is Scott’s fault. Try Sandgaard if you want to vent
Doesn't seem very likely does it.Luongo, actually sounds exactly like the type of signing he wanted.
Think you’ve been told a whopper there.
Swisdom knows what he's talking about.
No wonder he was smiling yesterday… more like laughing all the way to the bank.4 -
There are about 20 clubs in this league, at least, who'd be happy to have him in the squad. Of those about 15 would have him as a nailed-on starter. Slow? He's not, if you watch him. A hot head? Not this season (see above). Injury prone? Not this season. I'd really love to hear Holden's thoughts about him. I suspect they'd be greatly at odds with the majority herecs1986 said:
Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.Leuth said:
One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them.cafcsinger said:Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.
1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul
Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed7 -
Fancy a bet that he doesn't play league 1 football next year unless it's with usLeuth said:
There are about 20 clubs in this league, at least, who'd be happy to have him in the squad. Of those about 15 would have him as a nailed-on starter. Slow? He's not, if you watch him. A hot head? Not this season (see above). Injury prone? Not this season. I'd really love to hear Holden's thoughts about him. I suspect they'd be greatly at odds with the majority herecs1986 said:
Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.Leuth said:
One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them.cafcsinger said:Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.
1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul
Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed0 -
Shows how truly poor our recruitment is. Steve Gallen gets away with far too much for me.Southbank said:
What is truly dreadful is that there are only 3/4 first team regulars in that list. What a waste of money.cs1986 said:
They are disgusting if true. Stockley getting paid like 100k a goal. Jack Payne 5k a week FML.SurreyHeathAddick said:
It’s reported online, here you go … not sure why there’s the need for the aggressive reply 😂SELR_addicks said:
Oh so you don't have a clue what our wages are like, got it.SurreyHeathAddick said:
Apologies re-looking online, he’d actually be Top 5 - worryingly it’s suggests we pay Fraser 7k a week.Chunes said:
What makes you think 5k per week is our top earner?SurreyHeathAddick said:
So Mr Breakeven suddenly completely changed tack and agreed to giving someone £5k a week making them our top earner - while everything else suggested he was cutting costs to sell.Swisdom said:
TS had given it the green light as we really wanted him. Scott thought he knew best - or maybe someone else, like a prospective owner, overruled it.shirty5 said:
You can only work with the budget you are given.Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Failing to see how this is Scott’s fault. Try Sandgaard if you want to vent
Doesn't seem very likely does it.Luongo, actually sounds exactly like the type of signing he wanted.
Think you’ve been told a whopper there.
Swisdom knows what he's talking about.
No wonder he was smiling yesterday… more like laughing all the way to the bank.1 -
He's been pony ever since Thomas Driesen left the clubcs1986 said:
Shows how truly poor our recruitment is. Steve Gallen gets away with far too much for me.Southbank said:
What is truly dreadful is that there are only 3/4 first team regulars in that list. What a waste of money.cs1986 said:
They are disgusting if true. Stockley getting paid like 100k a goal. Jack Payne 5k a week FML.SurreyHeathAddick said:
It’s reported online, here you go … not sure why there’s the need for the aggressive reply 😂SELR_addicks said:
Oh so you don't have a clue what our wages are like, got it.SurreyHeathAddick said:
Apologies re-looking online, he’d actually be Top 5 - worryingly it’s suggests we pay Fraser 7k a week.Chunes said:
What makes you think 5k per week is our top earner?SurreyHeathAddick said:
So Mr Breakeven suddenly completely changed tack and agreed to giving someone £5k a week making them our top earner - while everything else suggested he was cutting costs to sell.Swisdom said:
TS had given it the green light as we really wanted him. Scott thought he knew best - or maybe someone else, like a prospective owner, overruled it.shirty5 said:
You can only work with the budget you are given.Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Failing to see how this is Scott’s fault. Try Sandgaard if you want to vent
Doesn't seem very likely does it.Luongo, actually sounds exactly like the type of signing he wanted.
Think you’ve been told a whopper there.
Swisdom knows what he's talking about.
No wonder he was smiling yesterday… more like laughing all the way to the bank.2 -
WhaaaaaaaaaaaatLeuth said:
There are about 20 clubs in this league, at least, who'd be happy to have him in the squad. Of those about 15 would have him as a nailed-on starter.cs1986 said:
Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.Leuth said:
One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them.cafcsinger said:Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.
1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul
Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed3 -
I’d like to see that too. Why don’t we just do that…Chunes said:
Do we need a squad player in midfield? Keeping in mind that Holden likes to keep a small squad anyway.esseffect said:
Morgan is inconsistent. Would keep as a squad player. Judging him today again Ipswich and saying he’s crap seems a bit harsh. The fickleness of fansNicholas said:And some of you want Morgan, bonne and innis to sign contracts. Fucking numpties
I'd like to see us bring in people who provide competition for first-team places rather than just make up the numbers.0 -
The most frightening part of that defeat for me was that I wasn’t even overly bothered.7
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Not a hothead?Leuth said:
There are about 20 clubs in this league, at least, who'd be happy to have him in the squad. Of those about 15 would have him as a nailed-on starter. Slow? He's not, if you watch him. A hot head? Not this season (see above). Injury prone? Not this season. I'd really love to hear Holden's thoughts about him. I suspect they'd be greatly at odds with the majority herecs1986 said:
Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.Leuth said:
One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them.cafcsinger said:Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.
1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul
Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footedThat first sending he absolutely tried to smash the player, anyone who’s played can see his intent there.
The elbow smash against Oxford was even worse, that should have been looked at by the police never-mind the EFL.
Biggest issue for me is when he’s been directly responsible for goals (I count at least 5 this season) he doesn’t look the slightest bit bothered during or at the end of the game.That alone tells me he’s not the kind of character we need in a squad where culture has already been questioned by ex-managers.3 -
Unfortunately I think this is quite representative of football as a whole. Doesn’t make it any easier to read if accurate. It’s another reason I get so worked up at them. Fraser earning 400k a year for a few pirouettes and drag backs and the odd goal against crap opposition - criminalSouthbank said:
What is truly dreadful is that there are only 3/4 first team regulars in that list. What a waste of money.cs1986 said:
They are disgusting if true. Stockley getting paid like 100k a goal. Jack Payne 5k a week FML.SurreyHeathAddick said:
It’s reported online, here you go … not sure why there’s the need for the aggressive reply 😂SELR_addicks said:
Oh so you don't have a clue what our wages are like, got it.SurreyHeathAddick said:
Apologies re-looking online, he’d actually be Top 5 - worryingly it’s suggests we pay Fraser 7k a week.Chunes said:
What makes you think 5k per week is our top earner?SurreyHeathAddick said:
So Mr Breakeven suddenly completely changed tack and agreed to giving someone £5k a week making them our top earner - while everything else suggested he was cutting costs to sell.Swisdom said:
TS had given it the green light as we really wanted him. Scott thought he knew best - or maybe someone else, like a prospective owner, overruled it.shirty5 said:
You can only work with the budget you are given.Swisdom said:Just thought I’d point out we had Luongo on a plate and ready to sign for us but we took the piss on his wages.
he wanted something like £5k a week.
we offered £2k
his agent said £5k and he’s ready to sign
We offered £2.5k
ipswich offered £5k
he signed straight away.
cheers for that one Andy Scott
Failing to see how this is Scott’s fault. Try Sandgaard if you want to vent
Doesn't seem very likely does it.Luongo, actually sounds exactly like the type of signing he wanted.
Think you’ve been told a whopper there.
Swisdom knows what he's talking about.
No wonder he was smiling yesterday… more like laughing all the way to the bank.5 -
I may just have overlooked this, but I can't see any interviews or social media statement's from any of the players apologising for Saturday ? Local paper here in Norwich has apology from the Norwich keeper for the embarrassing 5-1 defeat Friday night to Middlesbrough. Acknowledges fan's travelling distance and being embarrassed by the result. Maybe we'll get something prior to the MK Don's game1
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Well said @LouisMend. Your fieriest takeaways yet and rightfully so.4
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Ipswich's wage bill last year was huge and presumably is even bigger this season. Last season it was 50% higher than Charlton's and more than double the divisional average.
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Only one result I want Tuesday night , come on Birmingham !4
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Keep taking the tablets.RonnieMoore said:Dobson at fault for two goals losing the ball to easy in mid , Leaburn at fault for another to slow to react not closing down on the edge of our box .. not always the defensive fault when a goal is scored . It’s harsh to always blame the defenders as a team you defend from the front ..
yesterday Ipswich getting the early goal changed the whole game .. but there were moments that could have made the game .. Ipswich second goal looked like handball , the professional foul when Bonne was clear .. and the pen . Between 14 mins and 70 mins we were always in the game it just needed one thing to go our way .
Inniss sending off was very harsh .. come on the ref sees a big man and automatically thinks he must have fouled the other man again Inniss treated badly by the official . …
it’s a freak result was it a 6-0 was our win over Shrewsbury a 6-0 no really it just clicked on the day for Ipswich like it did for us3 -
Just spat out my cornflakes.RedChaser said:
If only Ronnie was as subtle as Leuth at it 😉.Covered End said:
It's nothing to do with love of Sarr or Inniss.esseffect said:Leuth said:
Of which one was rescinded! And c'mon, it's part of the charm. Vieira and Keane!Chunes said:
Hector was rubbish today.Leuth said:
It sounds like Hector was responsible for about 4 goals but Inniss has somehow stolen the fanbase's anger. He's cursedTellyTubby said:Tbf I didn't watch or even listen, but can I say 'fuck off innis'?
Innis has the worst disciplinary record in the top four leagues of English football.* Double anyone else.
Red Cards
Innis - 4
Casemiro - 2
Kamara - 2
Osho - 2
Platt - 2
Khan - 2
* Presume it is much worse than that, but can't find individual stats for National League and below. But note that no team in the National League has above four cards as an entire squad, while Innis has four to himself.
Ahhh ehhh whatever. Bet Holden puts him straight back in the side when he's availableYour love for Innis is bizarre. Have you hit your heard or something?
It's simply a ruse to get people to engage aka attention seeking.1 -
Imo he is a dirty b****** who should never have played for us again after he went through the Wimbledon geezer at their place last season.Leuth said:
There are about 20 clubs in this league, at least, who'd be happy to have him in the squad. Of those about 15 would have him as a nailed-on starter. Slow? He's not, if you watch him. A hot head? Not this season (see above). Injury prone? Not this season. I'd really love to hear Holden's thoughts about him. I suspect they'd be greatly at odds with the majority herecs1986 said:
Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.Leuth said:
One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them.cafcsinger said:Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability.
1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul
Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed
A career threatening tackle verging on assault.2
