POST-MATCH THREAD: Ipswich Town vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 15th April 2023 | KO 3.00PM

killerandflash said:

Campbell is a promising youngster, but promising youngsters are inconsistent, and will have stinkers as well as great games.

I've said this before, but for all their mediocrity, loaning out both DJ and Kirk in January has left us light in wide attacking areas. CBT's injury has meant Campbell being overplayed.

I totally agree. He looks a fine prospect but as you nuture certain players, part of them is giving them a run and then a rest. A chance to look at what works and what doesn't etc...

NabySarr said:

Leuth said:

cs1986 said:

Leuth said:

cafcsinger said:

Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability. 

One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them. 

1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute 
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul

Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed 

Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.

There are about 20 clubs in this league, at least, who'd be happy to have him in the squad. Of those about 15 would have him as a nailed-on starter. Slow? He's not, if you watch him. A hot head? Not this season (see above). Injury prone? Not this season. I'd really love to hear Holden's thoughts about him. I suspect they'd be greatly at odds with the majority here

Maybe 20 league 2 teams but definitely not league 1. His sprint speed isn’t slow but it’s the acceleration and how agile he is/turning speed is the problem. And he’s too slow with the ball at his feet. I think bottom end of league 1 is his level, where a team won’t play a high line and won’t be passing it out from the back as much 

Well, if I was owner of a team aiming to stay in League One and even push up the table next season and Inniss was available on a free he'd be my first signing, along with a decent forward (Bonne? Haha just kidding) 

Central defenders have it tough with fans. Their highlights reel is essentially their mistakes. Their good work is rarely spectacular or memorable. Our fans are particularly good at picking on centre-backs' errors. I thought it would be impossible to build someone more prone to CL brickbats than Naby Sarr but it seems we've found it. I get that 'no brainfades' is something of a requirement for centre-back, but it's hard to not feel sorry for those who are dominant and secure 99% of the time but who get a reputation for being SHIT because they screw up a few times a season. Compare that to serial hiders like Kirk or Gilbey who pop up with the odd thing in the attacking third and so get people convinced they're worth another chance and you see why centre-backs find it hardest to turn their reputations around

JamesSeed said:

Valley11 said:

If it’s true that bonne liked an Ipswich insta post after the match, then cancel his contract and get rid now. 

Why? We should probably get rid for other reasons, but for liking a mate's post saying Ipswich played on a different level or something? No.
If it said 'Charlton Pathetic' or something, then fair enough. But I doubt it did.

Because he’s a professional footballer being paid to play for Charlton, and he ‘likes’ two posts - one from the official ITFC account - celebrating beating us soundly. This after other dubious posts about the club.

That attitude is one of the main reasons we’re languishing where we are. See Peter Varney’s tweet about players laughing and joking with Ipswich players post match.

Turf Bonne out now and give the rest of the season to Kanu. 

FishCostaFortune said:

NabySarr said:

Leuth said:

cs1986 said:

Leuth said:

cafcsinger said:

Only positive is it will hopefully show Holden or our new owner that this squad needs a huge overhual. I was on the fence keeping Innis as back up, but fuck him, insane to get 4 reds this season. Liability. 

One was rescinded, so 3. Let's go through them. 

1x trying to score a header in the 96th minute 
2x side by side challenging a forward and being sent off for a perceived last-man foul

Would you rather he not try to score, or that he simply lets the forward go through completely unchallenged? Red cards as last man are always a risk when midfields have free rein to knock through balls. Maybe he could have been a bit cuter on those two occasions (the MK Dons one was even more dubious) but it isn't like he's diving in two-footed 

Inniss is pony. Slow and a hot head and injury prone. He won't get another contract at this level unless it's from us. I'd put money on it.

There are about 20 clubs in this league, at least, who'd be happy to have him in the squad. Of those about 15 would have him as a nailed-on starter. Slow? He's not, if you watch him. A hot head? Not this season (see above). Injury prone? Not this season. I'd really love to hear Holden's thoughts about him. I suspect they'd be greatly at odds with the majority here

Maybe 20 league 2 teams but definitely not league 1. His sprint speed isn’t slow but it’s the acceleration and how agile he is/turning speed is the problem. And he’s too slow with the ball at his feet. I think bottom end of league 1 is his level, where a team won’t play a high line and won’t be passing it out from the back as much 

I personally don't think Innis is good enough to certainly be a starter in a promotion chasing XI, and its not a coincidence that the first season we have seen him actually play over 15 games we have seen much of his weaknesses exposed.

However his issues are nothing to do with being slow, or un-agile, which I feel is a fallacy which is often thrown out - perhaps because of his size. 

For lack of a better link, but someone who is slow and has a poor turning speed would not have been able to make this recovery challenge. 

https://m.facebook.com/OfficialCAFC/videos/ryan-inniss-pulls-off-brilliant-last-ditch-tackle-against-portsmouth/284442137117635/

That clip the attacker has to run further to get round the ball, Inniss just has a straight line run, which as I said isn’t a problem for him as his running speed is fine. It’s more about how he defends against a non-direct team, like Ipswich, he’s just not quick/agile enough to react to what’s around him. He often loses his man or doesn’t pick up a runner. And then when he’s on the ball against a team that presses high, he is also too slow to make the right decision or not good enough to play the pass  

I thought it was a very even game that could have gone either way. Unlucky chaps

AFKABartram said:

Spare a thought for Mrs AFKA, 1st away game she’s been able to do for 13 years and we go and get smashed 6-0! 

There is a joke there somewhere!