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Jim Cornette shits on AEW for no reason.
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There's 3 pretty bad botches in that clip in fairness.Cafc43v3r said:Jim Cornette shits on AEW for no reason.0 -
Friend Or Defoe said:
There's 3 pretty bad botches in that clip in fairness.Cafc43v3r said:Jim Cornette shits on AEW for no reason.
Then consider the arse backwards booking that made this match in the first place.0 -
The OG bloodline
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WWE have made a 3+ hour 2 part bloodline video. Best angle since Austin v McMahon.
https://youtu.be/CvVR0nw6yP0
https://youtu.be/z19Cad44Jdo
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Superb.Cafc43v3r said:Not enough credit is given to how well AEW did in that post pandemic run with Punk’s return. With so much anticipation for it built over 7 years, it could have so easily been an anti-climax.
I don’t think that story with MJF is done either. Wouldn’t surprise me if Punk goes straight back into the title scene.
Can see them doing a reverse Money In The Bank 2011 angle, where MJF is planning to take the title away from AEW and has to face Punk in Chicago.0 -
I have watched that, I thought it was brilliant. The bloodline reminds me of the Hogan Andre/mega bucks mega powers/mega powers exploed style of story telling. That's a good thing by the way.Friend Or Defoe said:WWE have made a 3+ hour 2 part bloodline video. Best angle since Austin v McMahon.https://youtu.be/CvVR0nw6yP0https://youtu.be/z19Cad44Jdo0 -
I think the problems with Punk were more Punk himself than how AEW used him. Although after the Darby fued they had him come to the ring to his entrance music before heading down to do commentary. For 8 years his name was chanted in Chicago and a year after his return he received a mix reaction there (maybe due to how incredible MJF is). What a return though. Definitely in the top pops ever discussion. Interesting how a lot of the interviews above are semi shoot saying they don't want him there.cafctom said:
Superb.Cafc43v3r said:Not enough credit is given to how well AEW did in that post pandemic run with Punk’s return. With so much anticipation for it built over 7 years, it could have so easily been an anti-climax.
I don’t think that story with MJF is done either. Wouldn’t surprise me if Punk goes straight back into the title scene.
Can see them doing a reverse Money In The Bank 2011 angle, where MJF is planning to take the title away from AEW and has to face Punk in Chicago.
After Punk's title win MJF revealed himself as the joker. The fued was meant to continue but Punk had to Punk and the media scrum is what he will be remembered for at AEW unless something happens during his new run. 🤞🏻0 -
The thing is Punk got injured in the match so how long would he have been out if it wasn't for the media scrum?Friend Or Defoe said:
I think the problems with Punk were more Punk himself than how AEW used him. Although after the Darby fued they had him come to the ring to his entrance music before heading down to do commentary. For 8 years his name was chanted in Chicago and a year after his return he received a mix reaction there (maybe due to how incredible MJF is). What a return though. Definitely in the top pops ever discussion. Interesting how a lot of the interviews above are semi shoot saying they don't want him there.cafctom said:
Superb.Cafc43v3r said:Not enough credit is given to how well AEW did in that post pandemic run with Punk’s return. With so much anticipation for it built over 7 years, it could have so easily been an anti-climax.
I don’t think that story with MJF is done either. Wouldn’t surprise me if Punk goes straight back into the title scene.
Can see them doing a reverse Money In The Bank 2011 angle, where MJF is planning to take the title away from AEW and has to face Punk in Chicago.
After Punk's title win MJF revealed himself as the joker. The fued was meant to continue but Punk had to Punk and the media scrum is what he will be remembered for at AEW unless something happens during his new run. 🤞🏻
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Dave Meltzer AEW Double Or Nothing Match RatingsThe Hardys & Hook vs. The Gunns & Ethan Page *3/4Blackjack Battle Royal – International Title ****1/4Adam Cole vs. Chris Jericho ***1/4FTR vs. Jeff Jarrett & Jay Lethal – World Tag Team Titles ****Wardlow vs. Christian Cage – TNT Title ***3/4Toni Storm vs. Jamie Hayter – Women’s Title *1/4House of Black vs. The Acclaimed & Billy Gunn – World Trios Titles ***1/4Jade Cargill vs. Taya Valkyrie – TBS Title **3/4Jade Cargill vs. Kris Statlander – TBS Title (NO RATING)MJF vs. Sammy Guevara vs Darby Allin vs. Jungle Boy – World Championship ****3/4The Elite vs. The Blackpool Combat Club *****
Dave Meltzer Star Ratings – WWE Night Of Champions 2023Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn vs Roman Reigns and Solo SikoaRating: 4.5 starsCody Rhodes vs Brock LesnarRating: 4.00 starsBianca Belair vs AsukaRating: 3.25 starsGunther vs. Mustafa AliRating: 3.75 starsBecky Lynch vs Trish StratusRating: 3.25 starsSeth Rollins vs AJ Styles
Rating 4.25 stars.0 -
I'm guessing it could continue as a secondary story. Punk relinquishes the strap,MJF wins it as occurred. Punk commentates during his injury and MJF antoganises him until he's back, punk just takes it, maybe storms off.. Punk later annouces he's cleared and MJF chicken shit heels out of facing him now he can defend himself. This all occurs in the background whilst MJF defends the belt in the primary story.Cafc43v3r said:
The thing is Punk got injured in the match so how long would he have been out if it wasn't for the media scrum?Friend Or Defoe said:
I think the problems with Punk were more Punk himself than how AEW used him. Although after the Darby fued they had him come to the ring to his entrance music before heading down to do commentary. For 8 years his name was chanted in Chicago and a year after his return he received a mix reaction there (maybe due to how incredible MJF is). What a return though. Definitely in the top pops ever discussion. Interesting how a lot of the interviews above are semi shoot saying they don't want him there.cafctom said:
Superb.Cafc43v3r said:Not enough credit is given to how well AEW did in that post pandemic run with Punk’s return. With so much anticipation for it built over 7 years, it could have so easily been an anti-climax.
I don’t think that story with MJF is done either. Wouldn’t surprise me if Punk goes straight back into the title scene.
Can see them doing a reverse Money In The Bank 2011 angle, where MJF is planning to take the title away from AEW and has to face Punk in Chicago.
After Punk's title win MJF revealed himself as the joker. The fued was meant to continue but Punk had to Punk and the media scrum is what he will be remembered for at AEW unless something happens during his new run. 🤞🏻0 -
This is a great story of you have been following it0 -
Okada V Daneilson at Forbidden Door.
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I was hoping for ZSJ and totally remove Daneilson from the mudshow combat BS.Friend Or Defoe said:Okada V Daneilson at Forbidden Door.0 -
Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?0
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That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?0 -
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?1 -
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.1 -
I'll use that match for a trip to the concession stand.Friend Or Defoe said:
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.0 - Sponsored links:
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Twinkletoes McFingerbang is my personal fave Corny nickname.Friend Or Defoe said:
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.0 -
There will be quite a few matches like that.Cafc43v3r said:
I'll use that match for a trip to the concession stand.Friend Or Defoe said:
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.
Usually i'll fast forward the bucks, but seeing them do their stunt show live could be quite the spectacle.CAFCTrev said:
Twinkletoes McFingerbang is my personal fave Corny nickname.Friend Or Defoe said:
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.
Shitstain is my favourite. Bischoff (who is doing a London show in September) calls Meltzer the Tapeworm which is very good!
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Harpo. Because once you have seen it you can't unsee it.CAFCTrev said:
Twinkletoes McFingerbang is my personal fave Corny nickname.Friend Or Defoe said:
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.
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I can't wait for the exploding Canadian off the arch for a 2 count.Friend Or Defoe said:
There will be quite a few matches like that.Cafc43v3r said:
I'll use that match for a trip to the concession stand.Friend Or Defoe said:
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.
Usually i'll fast forward the bucks, but seeing them do their stunt show live could be quite the spectacle.1 -
Jim Cornette’s analysis has become very sterile.Ironic for someone who loves to point fingers when it comes to “laaaazy booking”, because he’s unwilling to have any nuance in his reviews whatsoever.
90% of a show is absolutely terrible, and he’ll only give praise when something is 10/10 perfect. There’s rarely any middle ground.
Unfortunately, that does seem to be the way with wrestling fans nowadays though. Criticise absolutely everything based on the most minute of details, show little praise towards it but yet still tune in each week to watch it.0 -
Whilst Jedward play wild thing.Cafc43v3r said:
I can't wait for the exploding Canadian off the arch for a 2 count.Friend Or Defoe said:
There will be quite a few matches like that.Cafc43v3r said:
I'll use that match for a trip to the concession stand.Friend Or Defoe said:
Was Mudshow not a clue?!CAFCTrev said:
A fellow Cornette Experience listener?Cafc43v3r said:
That would be nice but got a horrible feeling he will wind up with Pockets (Zack not Daneilson).Friend Or Defoe said:Perhaps ZSJ v Daneilson at Wembley?
Cassidy will embarrassingly get a monster reaction at Wembley.
Usually i'll fast forward the bucks, but seeing them do their stunt show live could be quite the spectacle.0 -
I find his podcasts boring. 4 hours of him and Brian watching TV shows that they don't like. However, he's one of the most quick witted people in wrestling and can be hilarious in small doses, e.g. clips from YouTube.cafctom said:Jim Cornette’s analysis has become very sterile.Ironic for someone who loves to point fingers when it comes to “laaaazy booking”, because he’s unwilling to have any nuance in his reviews whatsoever.
90% of a show is absolutely terrible, and he’ll only give praise when something is 10/10 perfect. There’s rarely any middle ground.
Unfortunately, that does seem to be the way with wrestling fans nowadays though. Criticise absolutely everything based on the most minute of details, show little praise towards it but yet still tune in each week to watch it.
Criticising things is the internet in a nutshell and is probably sticks out more in wrestling due to it's high dork fanbase. WWE released DVDs slating WCW and the Ultimate Warrior. It probably wasn't until just after the network came out that they admitted that WCW did some great stuff. They admitted Bash At The Beach '98 with Rodman and Karl Malone was actually really good on a show about celebrities in wrestling after years of making fun of it. They're spot on with Jay Leno!1 -
His wit and humour are probably the only things that had me listening for a while. No doubt that he is absolutely hilarious when he’s got a bee in his bonnet about something.It’s just frustrating that he seemingly actively chooses to lean towards the negative every time. Many other podcasts out there are more than capable of applying nuance in discussing what is great about AEW, and what is not so great.Also, is there any particular reason his hatred is so heavily leveraged towards Kenny Omega? Is there some sort of personal thing there?
I get that Omega isn’t the sort of wrestler that would be on a Cornette dream card for obvious reasons, but there are far bigger offenders of the over the top style that he hates.0 -
Wrestling the invisible man and little children is the underlying reason.cafctom said:His wit and humour are probably the only things that had me listening for a while. No doubt that he is absolutely hilarious when he’s got a bee in his bonnet about something.It’s just frustrating that he seemingly actively chooses to lean towards the negative every time. Many other podcasts out there are more than capable of applying nuance in discussing what is great about AEW, and what is not so great.Also, is there any particular reason his hatred is so heavily leveraged towards Kenny Omega? Is there some sort of personal thing there?
I get that Omega isn’t the sort of wrestler that would be on a Cornette dream card for obvious reasons, but there are far bigger offenders of the over the top style that he hates.
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Yeah, that’ll do it I guess.0
https://youtu.be/Juv_SN2wLm0
