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Any snippets from those attending tonight?0
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All positive
Minutes out soon
ST sales going well4 -
Oh, you’ve done it now………. IncomingCharltonAthMuseum said:All positive
Minutes out soon
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Any news on the Lookman Trench?0
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Season ticket sales are down on last season which in turn was down significantly on the prior 21/22 campaign but the club claim sales are ‘going well’.
Very similar to ‘it doesn’t matter whether we have new owners or not. The budget for this window is already set and it’s higher than the £0 we spent on transfers last season’
Pure Peter Storrie Bullshit.1 -
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Still no news, it’s like a secret society especially when some of the groups represented don’t actually exist anymore.0
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I will never question the efforts of these guys, the honesty they get back I'd question.
Subsequently what do the meetings achieve for the fans? IMO nothing.1 -
Needs a train travellers rep Elfs...2
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Waiting with anticipation.CharltonAthMuseum said:All positive
Minutes out soon
ST sales going well
Then it can be checked off by Ronnie.0 - Sponsored links:
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https://www.charltonafc.com/news/storrie-takeover-process-and-summer-transfer-windowLargeAddick said:Still no news, it’s like a secret society especially when some of the groups represented don’t actually exist anymore.
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Can’t say the report from the meeting is encouraging.
Hey ho.1 -
Sounds like a lot of past quotes rechurned.
Still not clear whether we have budget to pay transfer fees or whether we will just be doing free transfers until the takeover is done.
Time will tell I guess. Hopefully the former or 23/24 is screwed. Don’t see the takeover happening until after the season has started.0 -
We were told it would take 6-8 weeks after the SPA was signed so they were always going to be in the early stages by this point.seth plum said:Can’t say the report from the meeting is encouraging.
Hey ho.
If you mean signings it doesn’t tell us anything either way other than confirm the intention isn’t to wait until the takeover is completed.
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The theme that came across to me from the report is that Charlton have not supplied all the info the EFL and FA required, all the people are mystery figures, if and when a takeover happens and when that takes place Storrie buggers off, and the new people can do whatever they please so all previous bets are off. Storrie will watch uninvolved from the shore whilst others struggle with the storm.Scoham said:
We were told it would take 6-8 weeks after the SPA was signed so they were always going to be in the early stages by this point.seth plum said:Can’t say the report from the meeting is encouraging.
Hey ho.
If you mean signings it doesn’t tell us anything either way other than confirm the intention isn’t to wait until the takeover is completed.2 -
Positive news
Thomas Sandgaard won't be involved after the takeover
Holden is deciding on players
There is a budget and we can sign players before any deal is done as arrangements have been put it place to run signings past the new guys
The paperwork is mostly in
We're told the lease on the Valley and Sparrows Lane isn't an issue
The questions people wanted asked were asked, even if we didn't get full answers
Uncertain news
We don't know who the new owners are, still.
We don't have a definitive timescale
We don't know what stage the FA and EFL are at in processing the applications
We don't know if some or all of the multiple owners will be vetted
We don't know if the source and sufficiency of funds paperwork has been submitted or if its been accepted/refused
We don't know the actual or relative size of the playing budget
We can buy players, there is no embargo, but having to run it passed the new owners is an extra step in the process so may slow things down
The article doesn't mention that ST sales to existing ST holder are, according to PS, 4% down on the same time last year.
Negative news
Martin Sandgaard is still around
Tony Keohane hasn't been sacked
There are still more questions than answers
It's a crying shame we haven't had a proper CEO for a decade.12 -
Solid performance from PS.
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seth plum said:
The theme that came across to me from the report is that Charlton have not supplied all the info the EFL and FA required, all the people are mystery figures, if and when a takeover happens and when that takes place Storrie buggers off, and the new people can do whatever they please so all previous bets are off. Storrie will watch uninvolved from the shore whilst others struggle with the storm.Scoham said:
We were told it would take 6-8 weeks after the SPA was signed so they were always going to be in the early stages by this point.seth plum said:Can’t say the report from the meeting is encouraging.
Hey ho.
If you mean signings it doesn’t tell us anything either way other than confirm the intention isn’t to wait until the takeover is completed.We were told at the start it would take 6-8 weeks so I don’t find it surprising we haven’t submitted everything yet. The amount they have to submit is partly why it takes that long.Were you hoping the club were going to name those involved part way through the process? Since they weren’t named in the initial announcement we were always going to have to wait until it’s completed to hear more.
Not sure what your point is on new owners doing whatever they please?0 -
Good to see that City Addicks is still up and running6
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Slightly surprised we haven't submitted everything yet, seeing that the consortium have been involved for months.
Storrie has a reassuring air of quiet competence about him.1 - Sponsored links:
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Not very Bazball is it, I want a CEO who reverse scoops for 6Raith_C_Chattonell said:Solid performance from PS.
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My point is that whatever Storrie says carries weight, if that’s the right way to put it, only up to the point that the mystery people acquire the club.Scoham said:seth plum said:
The theme that came across to me from the report is that Charlton have not supplied all the info the EFL and FA required, all the people are mystery figures, if and when a takeover happens and when that takes place Storrie buggers off, and the new people can do whatever they please so all previous bets are off. Storrie will watch uninvolved from the shore whilst others struggle with the storm.Scoham said:
We were told it would take 6-8 weeks after the SPA was signed so they were always going to be in the early stages by this point.seth plum said:Can’t say the report from the meeting is encouraging.
Hey ho.
If you mean signings it doesn’t tell us anything either way other than confirm the intention isn’t to wait until the takeover is completed.We were told at the start it would take 6-8 weeks so I don’t find it surprising we haven’t submitted everything yet. The amount they have to submit is partly why it takes that long.Were you hoping the club were going to name those involved part way through the process? Since they weren’t named in the initial announcement we were always going to have to wait until it’s completed to hear more.
Not sure what your point is on new owners doing whatever they please?
As he says they can do whatever the hell they like, which is why I personally would like to know who the hell we’re dealing with. Storrie will be gone.
It also reads to me that the EFL/FA process hasn’t even started anyway as those institutions wait for information to be submitted by the club.
My skin in the game? Long term fan and season ticket holder having already bought for next season. If that counts for nothing, then my guess that Methven and Co view fans like me as mere ballast and can be treated with distain.
(The unfulfilled threat by Methven of legal action reminds me of when Southall was sacking Chris Parkes, Mick Everett and others on the spot during a particularly florid example of his power and money trip).
Maybe those who attended the meeting will say it was a worthwhile experience, but the report on the club website suggests otherwise to me.3 -
I thank the fans forum for meeting up with Storrie & the update.
Surprising that nothing yet of importance has been sent to the EFL so we are weeks, if not months, away from the takeover being concluded. I would have expected paperwork being completed whilst DD was ongoing & once the SPA was signed then it would have all been sent off. I don't know whether it's due to staffing issues, or TS not being that bothered, but it didn't smack of urgency to me.
My real worry is that any new signings that involve a fee has to be agreed first by Sandgaard.....so if he doesnt want to spend any money then they wont be signed, even though the new owners might actually want them. I may be reading it wrong & it might come down to just the way Storrie answered the questions but it seems like no matter if there is an agreement between all parties regarding expenditure the buck stops with Sandgaard. If he says no then that's it......no signing.
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Skin in the game!? wtf!seth plum said:
My point is that whatever Storrie says carries weight, if that’s the right way to put it, only up to the point that the mystery people acquire the club.Scoham said:seth plum said:
The theme that came across to me from the report is that Charlton have not supplied all the info the EFL and FA required, all the people are mystery figures, if and when a takeover happens and when that takes place Storrie buggers off, and the new people can do whatever they please so all previous bets are off. Storrie will watch uninvolved from the shore whilst others struggle with the storm.Scoham said:
We were told it would take 6-8 weeks after the SPA was signed so they were always going to be in the early stages by this point.seth plum said:Can’t say the report from the meeting is encouraging.
Hey ho.
If you mean signings it doesn’t tell us anything either way other than confirm the intention isn’t to wait until the takeover is completed.We were told at the start it would take 6-8 weeks so I don’t find it surprising we haven’t submitted everything yet. The amount they have to submit is partly why it takes that long.Were you hoping the club were going to name those involved part way through the process? Since they weren’t named in the initial announcement we were always going to have to wait until it’s completed to hear more.
Not sure what your point is on new owners doing whatever they please?
As he says they can do whatever the hell they like, which is why I personally would like to know who the hell we’re dealing with. Storrie will be gone.
It also reads to me that the EFL/FA process hasn’t even started anyway as those institutions wait for information to be submitted by the club.
My skin in the game? Long term fan and season ticket holder having already bought for next season. If that counts for nothing, then my guess that Methven and Co view fans like me as mere ballast and can be treated with distain.
(The unfulfilled threat by Methven of legal action reminds me of when Southall was sacking Chris Parkes, Mick Everett and others on the spot during a particularly florid example of his power and money trip).
Maybe those who attended the meeting will say it was a worthwhile experience, but the report on the club website suggests otherwise to me.1 -
But what is being discussed about Charlton TV???🧐0
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Yes. Skin in the game by being a committed fan.Hal1x said:
Skin in the game!? wtf!seth plum said:
My point is that whatever Storrie says carries weight, if that’s the right way to put it, only up to the point that the mystery people acquire the club.Scoham said:seth plum said:
The theme that came across to me from the report is that Charlton have not supplied all the info the EFL and FA required, all the people are mystery figures, if and when a takeover happens and when that takes place Storrie buggers off, and the new people can do whatever they please so all previous bets are off. Storrie will watch uninvolved from the shore whilst others struggle with the storm.Scoham said:
We were told it would take 6-8 weeks after the SPA was signed so they were always going to be in the early stages by this point.seth plum said:Can’t say the report from the meeting is encouraging.
Hey ho.
If you mean signings it doesn’t tell us anything either way other than confirm the intention isn’t to wait until the takeover is completed.We were told at the start it would take 6-8 weeks so I don’t find it surprising we haven’t submitted everything yet. The amount they have to submit is partly why it takes that long.Were you hoping the club were going to name those involved part way through the process? Since they weren’t named in the initial announcement we were always going to have to wait until it’s completed to hear more.
Not sure what your point is on new owners doing whatever they please?
As he says they can do whatever the hell they like, which is why I personally would like to know who the hell we’re dealing with. Storrie will be gone.
It also reads to me that the EFL/FA process hasn’t even started anyway as those institutions wait for information to be submitted by the club.
My skin in the game? Long term fan and season ticket holder having already bought for next season. If that counts for nothing, then my guess that Methven and Co view fans like me as mere ballast and can be treated with distain.
(The unfulfilled threat by Methven of legal action reminds me of when Southall was sacking Chris Parkes, Mick Everett and others on the spot during a particularly florid example of his power and money trip).
Maybe those who attended the meeting will say it was a worthwhile experience, but the report on the club website suggests otherwise to me.2 -
Yup, come on. Give us an update now.Solidgone said:But what is being discussed about Charlton TV???🧐0 -
Have those we've paid transfer fees for in recent years been more of an asset or more dependable than those we haven't? It's not about the price tag, it's about building a competitive team, although having money to spend on buying better players should help with that.Oh Eddie Youds... said:Sounds like a lot of past quotes rechurned.
Still not clear whether we have budget to pay transfer fees or whether we will just be doing free transfers until the takeover is done.
Time will tell I guess. Hopefully the former or 23/24 is screwed. Don’t see the takeover happening until after the season has started.
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I think its quite clear, but whether Sandgaard will want to pay any fees is a different matter.Oh Eddie Youds... said:Sounds like a lot of past quotes rechurned.
Still not clear whether we have budget to pay transfer fees or whether we will just be doing free transfers until the takeover is done.
Time will tell I guess. Hopefully the former or 23/24 is screwed. Don’t see the takeover happening until after the season has started.
I think Storrie has cleared up the issue around transfer embargo's (we knew that already as the EFL publishes a list now of any club under one) and he says any player purchases get agreed with the new owners before pursuing. However, as I posted on here & other threads today, whether TS will part with ANY up front fee is a different matter.1
