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Charlie Kirk again

Hertsseasider
Hertsseasider Posts: 418
in General Charlton
Rumours of him back in talks with Blackpool 
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    Good. Thanks @Hertsseasider

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Does he need a lift?

    Joking aside there is a player in there somewhere.  I wish I was good at anything as good as Kirk is at football.

    It hasn't worked, time for him to move on.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    See ya 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    Feel for Albie if this move happens. Sure he’ll have someone he knows, but it’s not what is going to benefit him for his career.

    If we get anything around 60% or above of what we paid for Kirk, that’ll be a great deal.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    Do Blackpool have a decent attacking left footed left back? He's far more effective with someone bombing on outside him.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    Hertsseasider said:
    Rumours of him back in talks with Blackpool 

    I’ll drive him there
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Fingers crossed.
    Morgan & Kirk would rule Blackpool out of the frame  :D
  • Hertsseasider
    Hertsseasider Posts: 418
    Covered End said:
    Fingers crossed.
    Morgan & Kirk would rule Blackpool out of the frame  :D
    Cheers 😀
  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,812
    Covered End said:
    Fingers crossed.
    Morgan & Kirk would rule Blackpool out of the frame  :D
    Or more likely they’re both in the league one team of the season next year
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    Thought this might happen. Crichley rates him. Only DJ and Lavelle to go.
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    paulsturgess said:
    Covered End said:
    Fingers crossed.
    Morgan & Kirk would rule Blackpool out of the frame  :D
    Or more likely they’re both in the league one team of the season next year
    More chance of Charlton winning the league.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Sage said:
    Feel for Albie if this move happens. Sure he’ll have someone he knows, but it’s not what is going to benefit him for his career.

    If we get anything around 60% or above of what we paid for Kirk, that’ll be a great deal.
    Having been in a squad together doesn't mean they have to be the next Kirk-Lavelle.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,157
    A good squad player 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,280
    I dislike players with talent but no fight in their belly to make the most of it. That is Kirk. Good luck elsewhere, will be delighted if we can move him on.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    I felt a bit bad for him when he joined right after his dad died and was thrown into a totally inept team with the idea that he'd completely fix everything for us but my patience has run out to be honest. Garner should have been perfect for him. Possession-based, controlled football where he could play in his preferred position, wouldn't have to do an insane amount of running and just needed to work and create. The main thing I remember is Garner dropping him because he was so bad in training one week it had to be dealt with. Holden took one look at him and moved on. He didn't exactly light the room up at Burton either. I think he actually scored as many goals against them this season as he did for them, which is a weird statistic.
    Oddly though, his numbers actually weren't that bad for us this season. He ended up our 4th highest assist-maker in the league and 7th highest scorer. He got one less assist than Fraser and two less than Albie despite playing half the games they did for us. I admit I'm surprised by that. It seemed like him and Lavelle were mates; if only you could take Lavelle's initial effort and drive and Kirk's talent and put it into one player, you might actually have something there. Instead I won't be sorry to not see Kirk moping about the pitch anymore. I hope he finally figures himself out
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,757
    Athletico Charlton said:
    I dislike players with talent but no fight in their belly to make the most of it. That is Kirk. Good luck elsewhere, will be delighted if we can move him on.
    He has fight, just at his own team mates when they don't pass him the ball. He can be a buy 1 get 2 free deal for DJ and Lavelle.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,028
    paulsturgess said:
    Covered End said:
    Fingers crossed.
    Morgan & Kirk would rule Blackpool out of the frame  :D
    Or more likely they’re both in the league one team of the season next year
    "In the 92nd minute, Charlie Kirk skipped past Egbo and delivered a beautiful cross which was poorly cleared by the Addicks and Albie Morgan fired the loose ball home to give the Seasiders all 3 points. Full time Charlton 0 Blackpool 1".
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,052
    Thought he was going to be absolutely fantastic when he signed , just hasn't worked out for whatever reason. Wish him all the best at Blackpool. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    Hopefully that means they will sign Sam Lavelle to be his babysitter like Burton did? 
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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    Thought his start to the season under Garner meant it was going to be his year. Still think he’s a good player that will probably go on to do well, but Holden definitely prefers more pace and work rate than Kirk offers so happy if we can move him on and get a fee 
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    One-footed. Can't tackle. Can't head the ball. No pace. Can't go past a defender. Rarely runs except when running away. 

    Another recruitment triumph for the CAFC black box. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    I was fearful that we would keep Kirk and use him as Rak Saki's replacement. 
    Hopefully now this won't be the case.
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    blackpool72 said:
    I was fearful that we would keep Kirk and use him as Rak Saki's replacement. 
    Hopefully now this won't be the case.
    If you force-fed Rak-Sakyi Mogadon, he would still outperform Kirk.  ;)
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
    blackpool72 said:
    I was fearful that we would keep Kirk and use him as Rak Saki's replacement. 
    Hopefully now this won't be the case.
    If you force-fed Rak-Sakyi Mogadon, he would still outperform Kirk.  ;)
    Yeah I know. 
    I was just worried that because he's still under contract Charlton would take the cheap option and keep him.
    Hopefully that won't happen. 
  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,353
    grumpyaddick said:
    One-footed. Can't tackle. Can't head the ball. No pace. Can't go past a defender. Rarely runs except when running away. 

    Another recruitment triumph for the CAFC black box. 
    Will people please stop posting stuff like this. The Blackpool management maybe reading this site and actually believe it.

    In the event they are, I would just like to assure you Kirk is quality ; not only is he a hard worker who gets stuck in, he can go past defenders and put quality crosses over. And he scores important goals.

    Seriously, get your chequebook out now before his value goes up even more. Please.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Garrymanilow said:
    I felt a bit bad for him when he joined right after his dad died and was thrown into a totally inept team with the idea that he'd completely fix everything for us but my patience has run out to be honest. Garner should have been perfect for him. Possession-based, controlled football where he could play in his preferred position, wouldn't have to do an insane amount of running and just needed to work and create. The main thing I remember is Garner dropping him because he was so bad in training one week it had to be dealt with. Holden took one look at him and moved on. He didn't exactly light the room up at Burton either. I think he actually scored as many goals against them this season as he did for them, which is a weird statistic.
    Oddly though, his numbers actually weren't that bad for us this season. He ended up our 4th highest assist-maker in the league and 7th highest scorer. He got one less assist than Fraser and two less than Albie despite playing half the games they did for us. I admit I'm surprised by that. It seemed like him and Lavelle were mates; if only you could take Lavelle's initial effort and drive and Kirk's talent and put it into one player, you might actually have something there. Instead I won't be sorry to not see Kirk moping about the pitch anymore. I hope he finally figures himself out
    Yeah this. I don't think he's a bad player, I think he's had a tough time of it down here, and our setup hasn't done him any favors with no attacking LB to overlap him. As you say, when he plays, he contributes to goals. There's a player in there, but it's not working for him here, and it would be best for everyone if he just moves on. 

    It's not like with Lavelle where he just isn't good enough, or with DJ where...he shows glimpses but I don't really know. With Kirk, it seems like a case of a player with talent not working out. It's a shame, but I think there are far worse transfer failures. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,052
    SDAddick said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    I felt a bit bad for him when he joined right after his dad died and was thrown into a totally inept team with the idea that he'd completely fix everything for us but my patience has run out to be honest. Garner should have been perfect for him. Possession-based, controlled football where he could play in his preferred position, wouldn't have to do an insane amount of running and just needed to work and create. The main thing I remember is Garner dropping him because he was so bad in training one week it had to be dealt with. Holden took one look at him and moved on. He didn't exactly light the room up at Burton either. I think he actually scored as many goals against them this season as he did for them, which is a weird statistic.
    Oddly though, his numbers actually weren't that bad for us this season. He ended up our 4th highest assist-maker in the league and 7th highest scorer. He got one less assist than Fraser and two less than Albie despite playing half the games they did for us. I admit I'm surprised by that. It seemed like him and Lavelle were mates; if only you could take Lavelle's initial effort and drive and Kirk's talent and put it into one player, you might actually have something there. Instead I won't be sorry to not see Kirk moping about the pitch anymore. I hope he finally figures himself out
    Yeah this. I don't think he's a bad player, I think he's had a tough time of it down here, and our setup hasn't done him any favors with no attacking LB to overlap him. As you say, when he plays, he contributes to goals. There's a player in there, but it's not working for him here, and it would be best for everyone if he just moves on. 

    It's not like with Lavelle where he just isn't good enough, or with DJ where...he shows glimpses but I don't really know. With Kirk, it seems like a case of a player with talent not working out. It's a shame, but I think there are far worse transfer failures. 

    Absolutely 100% agree with you , It's just not worked for him here - we've seen flashes , the lob away at Burton was an excellent finish and the through ball to set up CBT at home to Pompey when Garner used him as a No10 was superb. 

    Just think it's never really going to work out here and it's best we get a fee for him and move on. Wouldn't be surprised if back under Critchley he really produces at Blackpool.
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    Richard J said:
    Thought this might happen. Crichley rates him. Only DJ and Lavelle to go.
    I still have hope for DJ. There’s a player in there if Dean can rebuild his confidence.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    Cant we offer Blackpool a “Buy one get two free” deal?  Buy Kirk and we’ll Chuck in Mansfield and Lavelle. In fact, can we just give them all three?

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