Maynard-Brewer
Hector - Ness - Thomas
Egbo - Payne - Dobson - X
Fraser
May - X
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Charlton vs Leyton Orient - Pre-Season Friendly.
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hence as it stands. I would happily welcome better players throughout the squad.Cafc43v3r said:
That's 8 players from last season...Dazzler21 said:
My preference as it stands.ForeverAddickted said:1 -
Which of those would you say wont be replaced by better?Dazzler21 said:
hence as it stands. I would happily welcome better players throughout the squad.Cafc43v3r said:
That's 8 players from last season...Dazzler21 said:
My preference as it stands.ForeverAddickted said:Maynard-Brewer
Hector - Ness - Thomas
Egbo - Payne - Dobson - X
Fraser
May - X
I think we're done with bringing in Centre-Backs for example - Genuinely don't see us signing better than Dobson or Fraser, so those five are safe.
Egbo and Payne from that starting eleven are the big two at risk of having to be squad players.0 -
Thought El Mizouri looked decent.2
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Are we playing anyone else out there?0
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Nope thats it now... Gillingham away next week... So from one extreme in setting, to anothercafcsinger said:Are we playing anyone else out there?2 -
I though the "x" were where you wanted a new player?Dazzler21 said:
hence as it stands. I would happily welcome better players throughout the squad.Cafc43v3r said:
That's 8 players from last season...Dazzler21 said:
My preference as it stands.ForeverAddickted said:Maynard-Brewer
Hector - Ness - Thomas
Egbo - Payne - Dobson - X
Fraser
May - X1 -
I was at that game and I agree he did look good.Ferryman said:
Thought he was decent Wycombe away early seasonForeverAddickted said:Kirk is once again showing some nice touches whenever he gets on the ball - Saw this from him, this time last year though.
Unfortunately he never managed to look good again.1 -
An incomplete squad and youngsters pre-season training workout, played in hot 30 C sun conditions.
It's all about gradual build up of fitness.
Strict instructions not to bust a gut, do anything stupid or get injured.
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I imagine certain of our players were very happy when they heard thatOggy Red said:An incomplete squad and youngsters pre-season training workout, played in hot 30 C sun conditions.
It's all about gradual build up of fitness.
Strict instructions not to bust a gut, do anything stupid or get injured.
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So what was the final score?0
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Please tell me we lost on penalties and are out of the Johnny painting pizza cup6
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Game's still going on, now into the 14th quarter.oohaahmortimer said:Please tell me we lost on penalties and are out of the Johnny painting pizza cup10 -
I think Dobson and Fraser are clearly two of our better players. I also have questions about the two of them playing in the same 3. They seem to deliver less than the sum of their parts.ForeverAddickted said:
Which of those would you say wont be replaced by better?Dazzler21 said:
hence as it stands. I would happily welcome better players throughout the squad.Cafc43v3r said:
That's 8 players from last season...Dazzler21 said:
My preference as it stands.ForeverAddickted said:Maynard-Brewer
Hector - Ness - Thomas
Egbo - Payne - Dobson - X
Fraser
May - X
I think we're done with bringing in Centre-Backs for example - Genuinely don't see us signing better than Dobson or Fraser, so those five are safe.
Egbo and Payne from that starting eleven are the big two at risk of having to be squad players.
Now maybe that's unfair and the right "3rd man" would make a world of difference. At the moment it's more of a nagging doubt than a serious concern. Getting that 3 right, which we haven't done properly for 3 seasons now, is a big part of what needs doing.2 -
Last season it was generally Morgan who was "targeted" by fans as the weak link of the 3, which I always thought was slightly unfair, as all 3 have their strengths and flaws.Cafc43v3r said:
I think Dobson and Fraser are clearly two of out better players. I also have questions about the two of them playing in the same 3. They seem to deliver less than the sum of their parts.ForeverAddickted said:
Which of those would you say wont be replaced by better?Dazzler21 said:
hence as it stands. I would happily welcome better players throughout the squad.Cafc43v3r said:
That's 8 players from last season...Dazzler21 said:
My preference as it stands.ForeverAddickted said:Maynard-Brewer
Hector - Ness - Thomas
Egbo - Payne - Dobson - X
Fraser
May - X
I think we're done with bringing in Centre-Backs for example - Genuinely don't see us signing better than Dobson or Fraser, so those five are safe.
Egbo and Payne from that starting eleven are the big two at risk of having to be squad players.
Now maybe that's unfair and the right "3rd man" would make a world of difference. At the moment it's more of a nagging doubt than a serious concern. Getting that 3 right, which we haven't done properly for 3 seasons now, is a big part of what needs doing.4 -
I agree with both bits - that they are individually good but also that as a pairing they seem a bit underwhelming.Cafc43v3r said:
I think Dobson and Fraser are clearly two of out better players. I also have questions about the two of them playing in the same 3. They seem to deliver less than the sum of their parts.ForeverAddickted said:
Which of those would you say wont be replaced by better?Dazzler21 said:
hence as it stands. I would happily welcome better players throughout the squad.Cafc43v3r said:
That's 8 players from last season...Dazzler21 said:
My preference as it stands.ForeverAddickted said:Maynard-Brewer
Hector - Ness - Thomas
Egbo - Payne - Dobson - X
Fraser
May - X
I think we're done with bringing in Centre-Backs for example - Genuinely don't see us signing better than Dobson or Fraser, so those five are safe.
Egbo and Payne from that starting eleven are the big two at risk of having to be squad players.
Now maybe that's unfair and the right "3rd man" would make a world of difference. At the moment it's more of a nagging doubt than a serious concern. Getting that 3 right, which we haven't done properly for 3 seasons now, is a big part of what needs doing.
I think the issue is that Dobson is good in the deep role but not great at carrying the ball forwards and Fraser is good in the playmaker role off the forwards but not great at tracking back.
So the deep bit is good, the attacking bit is good but going from one to the other (either way) is not good. We need someone who can do that transitional role, either getting the ball off Dobson and driving forwards or tracking back to win second balls that the forward players lose.
On paper someone like a fit and functional McGrandles SHOULD tick that box but we need other options too I think.2 -
Has everybody forgotten about our new CB?0
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No but we have not seem him in action yet either. Hopefully he'll be fit to start by season opening day but we don't know, or how good he'll be if he is.Redhenry said:Has everybody forgotten about our new CB?
We need to avoid doing a McGrandles and assuming that a semi-fit/recuperating version is representative of the fully fit version.1 -
Leyton Orient supporter that I know wasnt overly impressed with how they played.
Of course saw it as more of a fitness game, but felt they didnt show up at all for the first quarter0 -
The conditions were pretty unbearable to play in which impacted the tempo/pace of the game for sure. Payne was the stand out for me, but the likes of Hector, Bakrin, Anderson, Chin and of course May all did really well too.
Funny moment was behind the pitch, Kirk mopped up the sweat on his face, torso and back with a towel size between a flannel and hand towel. It was soaking and he just slapped it over a barrier near the players’ changing room. Manny came in about 2 mins later, saw what he thought was a wet towel and proceeded to squeeze it all over his head and face to cool down. He closed his eyes tilted head up and squeezed. Absolute filth, but amusing! 🤣🤣🤣27 - Sponsored links:
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By the way, don’t forget Lloyd Jones, convinced back three will be Ness, Hector and Jones. Thomas, Elewere and Mitchell will be the back ups IMHO.
Also think we may swap out DJ, Kirk and McGrandles + add other newbies. A long way to go on recruitment, but coaches seem upbeat on how things are shaping in the background.12 -
Will be interesting to see what happens with Mcgrandles, I do think a quality box to box CM is somewhere I could see us possibly spending a fee on. More than happy to see how Mcgrandles does as the PSFs ramp up and see if he can fulfill that role. Thought Payne looked tidy too but I wouldn't want to play him and Fraser in the same midfield , think you'd get overun.2
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I’m not sure what wages McGrandles is on, he was one of our more ‘high profile’ signings last summer (he wasn’t from league 2) so might be on too much to keep around as backup. But I think he could be ideal for backup as he’d cover Dobson’s position and the box-box role
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We are still at the stage were it is predominantly about fitness. That is probably why both sides were happy playing each other given the opening league game. What I would comment on was this was a far better game for us than the first two with neither Orient or us trying to kick lumps out of each other whilst still keeping it sufficiently competitive.0
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decent run out in the sun, but we'll need to be a lot better on August 5th1
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Glad to hear not headbutts or ankle hacks in a friendly.
Who was the unused traillist? Interesting role for a triallist, that!0 -
Thoroughly enjoyable few days. The gaffer and players were unbelievably welcoming and Tracey was awesome as always.
Great turnout from our lot and excellent organisation from the club.
Roll on Monday…17 -
Just listened to this and I am really impressed by this fella; I think that we could have an absolute diamond here.ForeverAddickted said:
His intelligent and empathetic approach, combined with an emphasis on evidence-based medical techniques and practices must mark him out as a very forward thinking and thoughtful individual.
We might have lucked out here.15 -
I’m burnt to a crisp but enjoyed the day out. Was quite a novelty to be at a Charlton game in such weather and surroundings.
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