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Next Manager Search - August 2023

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  • CAFCsayer said:
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  • So instead of putting the 500k towards a bid for Nombe and giving Holden a decent strike pairing, or maybe even buying a competent centre back................we've spent the money on sacking him.

    Brilliant work guys.
    1.5 million is what they wanted.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    1.5 million is what they wanted.
    Maybe so, but i think 1m with a year left on his contract would have tested their resolve.

    We bid 500, they want 1.5, meet in the middle. 
  • Maybe so, but i think 1m with a year left on his contract would have tested their resolve.

    We bid 500, they want 1.5, meet in the middle. 
    Maybe so!
  • Who was available that’s better than Alfie May then? May is regarded as one of the best forwards in the league….he was before he joined Charlton anyway. 
  • Who was available that’s better than Alfie May then? May is regarded as one of the best forwards in the league….he was before he joined Charlton anyway. 
    Any striker is available if you're prepared to pay the asking price.

    Obviously we're not going to but if we had 3.5m to spend we could easily get JCH and Nombe.
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  • What was the big rush to sack Holden with no replacement lined up?
    Not defending these guys at all, but I'm sure I've seen criticism of TS potentially talking to replacement managers before sacking JJ.

    Owners can't win with our fans... unless they get some bloody success.
  • According to an article in Black Cats, Kevin Phillips is in the mix. Bit left field that one
  • Not defending these guys at all, but I'm sure I've seen criticism of TS potentially talking to replacement managers before sacking JJ.

    Owners can't win with our fans... unless they get some bloody success.
    Well, it’s not nice, but that’s football. It’s a brutal business and you’ve got to have a plan. I don’t see that there was a desperate need to sack Holden this early in the season if there’s no one ready to come in. 
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Certain set of fans been against the group from day 1 and always going to say that.. Holden just cost 500K to sack. 

    Those fans, also believe Holden is blameless. For me, it is both parties, we haven't got enough players through the door, that is either because we haven't sold the club well enough, or didn't want to work with Holden. 

    Holden wanted a smaller squad of around 16 players, plus academy players coming through, he got his main man in May, despite better options being available to sign. 

    Not sure many clubs in league One have spent as much as us this year in transfer fees, loan fees or signing on fees. 

    Suppose the next appointment and the type of contact, will suggest if they are skint or not!
    Interested as to who the better striker options were?
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Certain set of fans been against the group from day 1 and always going to say that.. Holden just cost 500K to sack. 

    Those fans, also believe Holden is blameless. For me, it is both parties, we haven't got enough players through the door, that is either because we haven't sold the club well enough, or didn't want to work with Holden. 

    Holden wanted a smaller squad of around 16 players, plus academy players coming through, he got his main man in May, despite better options being available to sign. 

    Not sure many clubs in league One have spent as much as us this year in transfer fees, loan fees or signing on fees. 

    Suppose the next appointment and the type of contact, will suggest if they are skint or not!
    Who were the better options available than May?
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    Scoham said:
    Who were the better options available than May?
    I thought people were saying he didn’t want May? Most confusing.

    Getting rid of Holden this early in the season smacks of panic stations at Consortium HQ. I expect they were promised a quick promotion as part of the deal, so (and I think I agree) best to act as early as possible to try to stop the rot. Four or five more matches where we don’t pick up many points would be ruinous for the season. 
  • Who was available that’s better than Alfie May then? May is regarded as one of the best forwards in the league….he was before he joined Charlton anyway. 

    If Leaburn and Fraser were fit together for the first game of the season then Alfie May would've had a target man to play off and Fraser who had a good pre season a link man to play the 10 role.
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  • How it all adds up from a financial stand point, I don’t know but the evidence is there to show that money has been available this summer.

    Not earth shattering amounts but more than most in this league are able to boast.

    $250k on May, similar amounts on Edun and Taylor, the loan of Camara won’t have been free… and now the sacking costing six figures in compensation.
  • KettsJohn said:
    Depressing being a Charlton supporter isn't it 
    Well it’s never boring. 
    I think I’d settle for boring. 
  • edited August 2023

    If Leaburn and Fraser were fit together for the first game of the season then Alfie May would've had a target man to play off and Fraser who had a good pre season a link man to play the 10 role.
    I was half joking. I think May has done well so far. My question for Dubai was, realistically, who was Holden offered that is better than May?
  • I know you took a lot of time making this post but Chris Powell is abscent from that list;

    Reason - he "gets" us - Holden made a big "thing" about the no dick head rule - CP didn't even feel the need to explain that as a prerequisit - it was a natural assumption for any player coming here.
    Ability - he has previous significant success - he's won this league once at a canter
    Opportunity - he is available and not in current employment
    Financial - it wouldn't cost us a major amount since he is coming from a coaching role 
    Most importantly - gives the fan base the kind of lift that is potentially only possible with one other encumbent
    and dare I forget Will - unfinished business, affinity with the fans, wanting to prove he is a top level manager



    I don’t really think Powell is an option these days.
  • Scoham said:
    Who were the better options available than May?
    Smith, Lapo, JHC, Nombe, Stansfield was all ahead of May, and we enquired about all of them before we signed May! 
  • With 17 managers in 17 years, I don't think we'll get anyone of great caliber. Would like Danny Cowley, but would he come to the basket case that our club has become?
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Smith, Lapo, JHC, Nombe, Stansfield was all ahead of May, and we enquired about all of them before we signed May! 
    Sounds like we made enquiries and then signed the cheapest one.

    Stansfield obviously would've been a loan but clearly Fulham wanted him to step up a level.
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