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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    ValleyBen said:
    Nobody really knows if this will be a successful hire or not but other then CP, on paper Challinor seems the best from who we have been linked with.
    I tend to agree although I'd still like Jones or Warburton.

    Seems like someone who builds a team, which we need, and is on an upwards rise.

    Not a glamorous or "name" appointment but I'm not really bothered about that.

    We'll have to see how it works out over the next couple of days but doubt very much it is a done deal so soon after an interview yesterday or today.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    golfaddick said:
    Scoham said:

    Sad really.

    Is this what we have come too ?  No disrespect to any of the teams or their fans but interviewing managers at Stockport & Northampton is not my idea of success.

    SE7 Partners have been in charge for 6 weeks & things are starting to unravel already.

    Utter shambles.
    I think you're forgetting that Charlton have now been established in league 1 for a good while & are currently 19th in the table. 

    We're not an appealing prospect for established premier league/championship level managers .

    We'll have to look at managers on their way up 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,375
    https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12785895/dave-challinor-interview-stockport-county-manager-on-expansive-football-a-perfect-december-countys-season-defining-run

    https://totalfootballanalysis.com/team-analysis/stockport-county-202223-their-tactics-under-dave-challinor-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

    Sounds like he favours a similar style Holden was aiming for - an aggressive high pressing and attacking 3-5-2. Talks about using a back four when he was at Hartlepool though.

    https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/football/dave-challinor-explains-the-tactical-secret-behind-hartlepool-uniteds-comfortable-clean-sheets-against-notts-county-aldershot-town-and-stockport-county-at-victoria-park-1890201
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    From the heady rumours and false briefings of Chris Powell and Lee Bowyer to the cheap compliant reality of Dave Challinor from Stockport County.

    Thank you SE7 partners for ruining my  life. 

    Dave Challinor's red army? I don't think so. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    I have no problem with Challinor.
    I get the impression he'll take no nonsense which does make you wonder why he'd even take the job.  
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    Challinor is just Garner all over again in my opinion 
  • Leftpeg
    Leftpeg Posts: 4
    I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:
    Won't end well again with Challinor. Poor appointment.

    Why? Been promoted with every club he's managed.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    PWADDICK said:
    Challinor is just Garner all over again in my opinion 
    An your reason for that is ?
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    I'd rather go for someone in the mould of a Richardson or Challinor than a Cowley or Appleton. Take a chance on an up and comer rather than a "known name."

    But ultimately unless we sort out the issues right at the top it's probably academic anyway and we'll be opening a very similar thread in 12-18 months all over again.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Don’t know much about Challinor, or what he’s done at Stockport but I’m more interested in seeing if he can do it at this level as well, than giving someone like Cowley or Appleton another chance when their track records already strongly suggest they aren’t the right men to go a team promoted from league one.

    No guaranteed outcomes though, whoever we appoint and this season is already looking like a write off. 
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  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    PWADDICK said:
    Challinor is just Garner all over again in my opinion 
    Other than five times the experience plus a much better record of winning matches and promotion. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    grumpyaddick said:
    From the heady rumours and false briefings of Chris Powell and Lee Bowyer to the cheap compliant reality of Dave Challinor from Stockport County.

    Thank you SE7 partners for ruining my  life. 

    Dave Challinor's red army? I don't think so. 
    Nothing would ever make you happy my friend. 
  • Leftpeg
    Leftpeg Posts: 4
    grumpyaddick said:
    From the heady rumours and false briefings of Chris Powell and Lee Bowyer to the cheap compliant reality of Dave Challinor from Stockport County.

    Thank you SE7 partners for ruining my  life. 

    Dave Challinor's red army? I don't think so. 
    Cheap? He signed a 3 year contract on July, so the cheap option would have been the likes of Cowley or even Bowyer. He's been successful at multiple clubs. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,622
    bolloxbolder said:
    golfaddick said:
    Scoham said:

    Sad really.

    Is this what we have come too ?  No disrespect to any of the teams or their fans but interviewing managers at Stockport & Northampton is not my idea of success.

    SE7 Partners have been in charge for 6 weeks & things are starting to unravel already.

    Utter shambles.
    I disagree. These are exactly the type of up and coming managers we should be looking at.

    Fresh ideas, know the !ower leagues scouting for bargains and a defined system of play.

    Far better than reverting back to Bowyer, Powell etc. Happy for Atherton too tbh 
    Michael Atherton might actually do a better job than Challinor or Brady.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,727
    Showmetheway2gohome said:
    Might just as well let Pearce have some games and see how he goes 
    How does that work? One has managed sides to promotions and the other has coached u14s for a season
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Leftpeg said:
    grumpyaddick said:
    From the heady rumours and false briefings of Chris Powell and Lee Bowyer to the cheap compliant reality of Dave Challinor from Stockport County.

    Thank you SE7 partners for ruining my  life. 

    Dave Challinor's red army? I don't think so. 
    Cheap? He signed a 3 year contract on July, so the cheap option would have been the likes of Cowley or even Bowyer. He's been successful at multiple clubs. 
    Exactly, it’s probably the most expensive option from all the names. Stockport are well-backed financially so it’s not going to be cheap to get him 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,252
    "I haven't heard of him before so he must be shite" Charlton Life post shocker!
  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 514
    Welcome and good luck Dave. I'd advise that you ask Stockport just to appoint an interim manager who could be back by Easter.
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    Bedsaddick said:
    PWADDICK said:
    Challinor is just Garner all over again in my opinion 
    An your reason for that is ?
    Manager who lost in league 2 play offs who we pull out to manage us
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,622
    Glad I haven't got a season ticket. Will be going Saturday & then that's my lot for a while. Daughter of to Uni & a house move all planned for the next 6 weeks. 


  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,032
    All in all I think Challinor would be a good appointment given the clubs current level, I'm not sure how many better managers we could reasonably attract. A great managerial record spanning over a decade with a history of promotions. Those who think the likes of Jones or Wilder would ever come to us were always going to be disappointed whoever we hired.
  • Orpingtony
    Orpingtony Posts: 280
    He can't be any good if he'd take the Charlton job.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    If it is Challinor it will be a pretty long way away from the stomping ground he is used to.
    That there London and all.
  • SCT1980
    SCT1980 Posts: 60

    All these names being banded about whether Cowley or Challinor are all meh to me, as tbh I have no effective way to judge which of them is the better option, IMO they’re all in the same wheel house as the pool of talent we’re shopping in is a reality of ten years of poor management of the club. 

    We’re a managerial graveyard 13 managers in 10 years, 17 in 17, none exactly gone on to anything notable since leaving us… doesn’t seem like an appealing project to most I’d expect. 

    Hope I’m wrong but fear the reality is we’ll end up trying a few of these type managers, as we already have, until we hit on one. 

    It’s more luck than science at this point as the quality serious candidates are just not available to us. But hope we get on with it quickly, support the next guy and with a bit of luck get us in the right direction, to me the main criteria is personality fit for SMT and the players. 

    In one way it’s an earlier reality check than expected for the new owners this start to the season, at least they now know from the off there’s no quick and easy path in case any illusions. 

  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983

  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    golfaddick said:
    Glad I haven't got a season ticket. Will be going Saturday & then that's my lot for a while. Daughter of to Uni & a house move all planned for the next 6 weeks. 


    Let me know if you need any decent financial advice re' house move mate, know a couple of people 
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    What if...all these names being leaked is to lengthen the odds on our actual appointment...Charlie and his mates all lump on someone at 33/1, appoint them and...bingo...funds for a striker on deadline day
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    To_Be_Franck said:
    What if...all these names being leaked is to lengthen the odds on our actual appointment...Charlie and his mates all lump on someone at 33/1, appoint them and...bingo...funds for a striker on deadline day
    Frank Lampard was 33/1, Franck
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    Gribbo said:
    To_Be_Franck said:
    What if...all these names being leaked is to lengthen the odds on our actual appointment...Charlie and his mates all lump on someone at 33/1, appoint them and...bingo...funds for a striker on deadline day
    Frank Lampard was 33/1, Franck
    Heard it here first
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