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Post-match thread: Charlton Athletic vs Wycombe Wanderers: Saturday 23rd September 2023: KO 3:00
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I think most people would agree we were the better side first half but needed a second goal but second half a different story and Wycombe looked most likely to get a second. Once we did score though we looked comfortable. Overall today is a positive start and we turned what could easily have been a loss into three points. On the train back to Leeds a happy man! Coyr4
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I find Hector a concern. At times he plays as though he’s had a toke on the pipe. For someone so experienced why is it that I feel more confident when Ness plays? A very good decision by Mr Appleton to replace Hector.I still need convincing with Isted.Other than that Just give Miles the ball. He has ooodles of skill.6
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Winning 3-1 when you are not necessarily firing in all cylinders is a fundamental requirement for promotion. We just need to follow that up with playing well and winning as well8
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And Terry Taylor. Plus Charlie KirkChris_from_Sidcup said:
Was actually thinking that as well. Fraser, Camara, McGrandles (don't laugh), Edun and Chem Campbell (although he was a sub) all didn't feature today.sirjohnhumphrey said:First first half was decent. Interesting to use TC where he did and I think he showed some glimpses of promise in that position, particularly when he had space. At times the ball into his feet was too easy to be taken off him but he will learn.
Jones had his best game for us. Thomas did well at left back. Isted dealt with their late crosses well.They were only dangerous from set pieces and apart from the goal and the header that hit the bar there was little threat.
Good subs from Appleton - when Camara and Fraser are back we have a very decent squad.
Early days but positive signs.
Admittedly highly unlikely they'll all be fit at the same time, but if they are we have a decent squad that should be play off contenders.
Defence still worries me though and i think we'd definitely have to look for reinforcements in January.
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I can't comment on his performance and haven't. Football is a team game and he played for the winning side today, so seeing him singled out for individual criticism by way of a one word put down seemed harsh taking into account that he's bedding in.RonnieMoore said:
No he was not … he played well and made some very good tackles at important timesswordfish said:
Why can't you make allowances. 'Abankwah was pony again' could read 'yet to see the best of him in his natural position in a Charlton shirt' but no, abuse it is. Crack on!Bedsaddick said:
Bring the lols on ! Those who gave me them know I’m right they just didn’t have the intelligence to see it ! 😂LargeAddick said:Bedsaddick said:3-1 totally flattered us . Wycombe looked like a decent side . When they equalised there looked like only one team was going to win and it wasn’t us but thanks to a scuffed shot and a brilliant individual goal from CBT, I can go home happy .Still lots of work to do. The right back Abankwah was pony again and when Watson came on to replace him , we looked far more assured .COYR!
Don't know why this got two lol's, was exactly how I saw it.
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You forgot Charlie Kirk🤣Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Was actually thinking that as well. Fraser, Camara, McGrandles (don't laugh), Edun and Chem Campbell (although he was a sub) all didn't feature today.sirjohnhumphrey said:First first half was decent. Interesting to use TC where he did and I think he showed some glimpses of promise in that position, particularly when he had space. At times the ball into his feet was too easy to be taken off him but he will learn.
Jones had his best game for us. Thomas did well at left back. Isted dealt with their late crosses well.They were only dangerous from set pieces and apart from the goal and the header that hit the bar there was little threat.
Good subs from Appleton - when Camara and Fraser are back we have a very decent squad.
Early days but positive signs.
Admittedly highly unlikely they'll all be fit at the same time, but if they are we have a decent squad that should be play off contenders.
Defence still worries me though and i think we'd definitely have to look for reinforcements in January.
I like the look of Louie Watson. He looks like a young Mark Kinsella. But he is young.I’d hope that we can offload McG, and Kirk in Jan. And I think Fraser has to make a case why we shouldn’t offload him too to help pay for a decent defender who is captain material. I don’t know what’s wrong with Hector, but right now he’s more a Naby Sarr on a bad day than a Jason Pearce. Definitely not captain material. And it does seem that Ness has gone backwards, but some decent coaching will hopefully fix that.3 -
I think Ness has been pretty awful for most of this season though (to be fair so has our entire defence really). But i appreciate he's still young and learning the game.Solidgone said:I find Hector a concern. At times he plays as though he’s had a toke on the pipe. For someone so experienced why is it that I feel more confident when Ness plays? A very good decision by Mr Appleton to replace Hector.I still need convincing with Isted.Other than that Just give Miles the ball. He has ooodles of skill.3 -
3-1 win over an in-form team who will be looking to finish in the play-off spots and people are scrapping over whether we won convincingly enough. Cheer up lads, we did a win!
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Feels like TC is starting to blossom into a key player. Was really good last year but can see he’s full of confidence and belief. Need to get him on a nice long contract ASAP1
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What should he have saved?Southbank said:Defence is still porous. The centre backs do not command the area and the boy from Udinese is too raw. Maybe T Watson will make some difference.
But some of our attacking play is very good and we look dangerous going forward. If Appleton can improve the defence we should be able to climb the table.
Oh and although Isted's handling was good he did not make one save. Has he made one since he got in the first team?
He had no chance with the goal.7 - Sponsored links:
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Micky Apples red and white army!1
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Good performance, not great but good.
Kept going after we conceded (instead of collapsing). Alfie May could be our POS , great work rate and unselfish running. Miles goal after getting it caught up in his feet showed maturity and a player learning his craft.
Lot more to do! COYRS3 -
Good overall display but would have liked to play 2 up front . I thought ABANKWAH was very poor even though he was out of position- made a number of defensive mistakes , never went forward and always passed backwards . Hopefully Watson will start next week at right back3
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I don't really agree that the result was particularly flattering. They had a period of ascendancy but Appleton reacted well and we were the better team for more of the match IMO - 6 shots on target to their one (and that one an absolute belter to be fair) suggests that even when they were on top we were not exactly under siege.Bedsaddick said:3-1 totally flattered us . Wycombe looked like a decent side . When they equalised there looked like only one team was going to win and it wasn’t us but thanks to a scuffed shot and a brilliant individual goal from CBT, I can go home happy .Still lots of work to do. The right back Abankwah was pony again and when Watson came on to replace him , we looked far more assured .COYR!
It's not surprising that an actual RB played better than a teenager out of position either. Hopefully now T. Watson is fit Abankwah can go back to playing/covering his actual role and judge accordingly.10 -
Thomas always plays well at left back, he's our most reliable defender atm.msomerton said:
He cannot head a clearance away ever. Just straight to the opposition player nearest him just one thing hevis poor at. There are others.l0lLeuth said:Someone just gave my beloved, Terell Thomas, 4 on Player Marks, so I'm probably going to be extremely aggressive for the rest of the thread. The guy was enormous today ffs
He was our best defender today or at least as good as Jones.14 -
Nice to win a tight game. I do think defensively we are very vulnerable at times but so are most L1 sides0
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12968419/charlton-3-1-wycombe-wanderers-league-one-highlightsWycombe goal 52 seconds in. Hell of a strike as Campbell has already got out to put pressure on him.2
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There was a point in the second half where I absolutely despised Charlton Athletic. It’s quite a common occurrence to be honest. We’ll be winning a game, frustrate, concede, frustrate further, and then probably concede again. I’ll then have my mood dragged along the pavement for the next 7 days.
But not today! It took a Tedic “piledriver” to get in front, but by that point I wasn’t convinced it was coming. We are such a frustrating team. We look like we have so much potential when attacking but defensively we’re shaky and our end product is just dire. So delighted for Blackett-Taylor at the end, running with the ball he so often looks like Barcelona yet his end product is more Palma Nova.Not saying he was good, but first game I’ve not scratched my head wondering if Isted is an actual goalie or competition winner. Thomas was the pick of the defenders, with Hector looking like he is wearing leaden boots and Abankwah not looking yet up to the standard of a 0-80 min Asiimwe. Watson looked very comfortable when he come on.
Having a stronger bench than a few weeks ago made such a difference. Would we have won more earlier points if we hadn’t backloaded our recruitment to the last minute?I see Micky Apples getting tactical praise and you can’t argue with subs making a difference, but if we hadn’t have got the Tedic goal we would have had been properly under the cosh for the last ten as Aneke was blowing after 20 mins running and we were one up front then, we would have proper invited them on in injury time. Delighted Apples has got a home win to get him started.At the end of the day though the sun shone, I lost my voice, I celebrated the win like a Champions League one and we left The Valley happy that those b***ards won’t be miserably ruining my life for at least another 7 days.Up the Addicks28 -
Beds is right.swordfish said:
Why can't you make allowances. 'Abankwah was pony again' could read 'yet to see the best of him in his natural position in a Charlton shirt' but no, abuse it is. Crack on!Bedsaddick said:
Bring the lols on ! Those who gave me them know I’m right they just didn’t have the intelligence to see it ! 😂LargeAddick said:Bedsaddick said:3-1 totally flattered us . Wycombe looked like a decent side . When they equalised there looked like only one team was going to win and it wasn’t us but thanks to a scuffed shot and a brilliant individual goal from CBT, I can go home happy .Still lots of work to do. The right back Abankwah was pony again and when Watson came on to replace him , we looked far more assured .COYR!
Don't know why this got two lol's, was exactly how I saw it.
He was pony last week & pony today.
He may be playing right back instead of right sided centre half, but you wouldn't want him in your Welling/Bromley etc team playing like that.
He's a complete liability & it's not his fault but hopefully he doesn't feature again for some time.9 -
I'm sure the feedback will be appreciated and prove invaluable to his confidence and development as a Charlton player.Covered End said:
Beds is right.swordfish said:
Why can't you make allowances. 'Abankwah was pony again' could read 'yet to see the best of him in his natural position in a Charlton shirt' but no, abuse it is. Crack on!Bedsaddick said:
Bring the lols on ! Those who gave me them know I’m right they just didn’t have the intelligence to see it ! 😂LargeAddick said:Bedsaddick said:3-1 totally flattered us . Wycombe looked like a decent side . When they equalised there looked like only one team was going to win and it wasn’t us but thanks to a scuffed shot and a brilliant individual goal from CBT, I can go home happy .Still lots of work to do. The right back Abankwah was pony again and when Watson came on to replace him , we looked far more assured .COYR!
Don't know why this got two lol's, was exactly how I saw it.
He was pony last week & pony today.
He may be playing right back instead of right sided centre half, but you wouldn't want him in your Welling/Bromley etc team playing like that.
He's a complete liability & it's not his fault but hopefully he doesn't feature again for some time.9 - Sponsored links:
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Why are you so against people providing their views on the performance of a player? Nobody is being abusive, nobody is writing him off, they’re just saying what they see.swordfish said:
I'm sure the feedback will be appreciated and prove invaluable to his confidence and development as a Charlton player.Covered End said:
Beds is right.swordfish said:
Why can't you make allowances. 'Abankwah was pony again' could read 'yet to see the best of him in his natural position in a Charlton shirt' but no, abuse it is. Crack on!Bedsaddick said:
Bring the lols on ! Those who gave me them know I’m right they just didn’t have the intelligence to see it ! 😂LargeAddick said:Bedsaddick said:3-1 totally flattered us . Wycombe looked like a decent side . When they equalised there looked like only one team was going to win and it wasn’t us but thanks to a scuffed shot and a brilliant individual goal from CBT, I can go home happy .Still lots of work to do. The right back Abankwah was pony again and when Watson came on to replace him , we looked far more assured .COYR!
Don't know why this got two lol's, was exactly how I saw it.
He was pony last week & pony today.
He may be playing right back instead of right sided centre half, but you wouldn't want him in your Welling/Bromley etc team playing like that.
He's a complete liability & it's not his fault but hopefully he doesn't feature again for some time.4 -
How dare a fan say what he sees and give his opinion on a players performance.swordfish said:
I'm sure the feedback will be appreciated and prove invaluable to his confidence and development as a Charlton player.Covered End said:
Beds is right.swordfish said:
Why can't you make allowances. 'Abankwah was pony again' could read 'yet to see the best of him in his natural position in a Charlton shirt' but no, abuse it is. Crack on!Bedsaddick said:
Bring the lols on ! Those who gave me them know I’m right they just didn’t have the intelligence to see it ! 😂LargeAddick said:Bedsaddick said:3-1 totally flattered us . Wycombe looked like a decent side . When they equalised there looked like only one team was going to win and it wasn’t us but thanks to a scuffed shot and a brilliant individual goal from CBT, I can go home happy .Still lots of work to do. The right back Abankwah was pony again and when Watson came on to replace him , we looked far more assured .COYR!
Don't know why this got two lol's, was exactly how I saw it.
He was pony last week & pony today.
He may be playing right back instead of right sided centre half, but you wouldn't want him in your Welling/Bromley etc team playing like that.
He's a complete liability & it's not his fault but hopefully he doesn't feature again for some time.4 -
We’ve got some proper strange fans. Unbeaten in 3 and a thumping win at home in the sun, and still the little digs and spiteful comments.
Enjoy the win people. We as a fanbase know more than most that when the sun shines you bask in it.11 -
There was every sign we were going to see our trademark fragility take over but instead we sorted ourselves out and won the game. It helps that we now have a lot of attacking options. I thought our strength was going to be our midfield but Fraser and Camara are big losses. We just need to compete until they are back. Defence don't look right yet but I thought Jones had a strong game and I can see that aspect improving. The main negative is Dobbo is one booking away from a suspension. We really need him at this time.1
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Abankwah wasn’t even that bad today???
A couple of shakey moments last weekend and now everyone is picking holes in everything he does.17 -
He looked out of position but I thought he improved as the game went on.0
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Abankwah was one of a back line that limited an in form team to one effort on target. Wycombe didn’t play with wide men so his job was slightly different to what it may normally be as a full back.
He’s young, a centre back playing out of position, adapting to a new environment.
I haven’t yet read anything that actually describes what he did wrong today.8 -
i don't need to justify why the scoreline flattered us - it just did. At 1-1 we were being run ragged at times and just because the keeper didn't have many saves to make is irrelevant. It's my opinion ( and others who have agreed with me)4
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Original poster said he was pony. Not why he thought that. Fine if people explain their views but he didn't. Others have. When another poster described him as he as a dickhead, he got annoyed they didn't say why, which I thought a shade hypocritical tbh.Smithy said:
Why are you so against people providing their views on the performance of a player? Nobody is being abusive, nobody is writing him off, they’re just saying what they see.swordfish said:
I'm sure the feedback will be appreciated and prove invaluable to his confidence and development as a Charlton player.Covered End said:
Beds is right.swordfish said:
Why can't you make allowances. 'Abankwah was pony again' could read 'yet to see the best of him in his natural position in a Charlton shirt' but no, abuse it is. Crack on!Bedsaddick said:
Bring the lols on ! Those who gave me them know I’m right they just didn’t have the intelligence to see it ! 😂LargeAddick said:Bedsaddick said:3-1 totally flattered us . Wycombe looked like a decent side . When they equalised there looked like only one team was going to win and it wasn’t us but thanks to a scuffed shot and a brilliant individual goal from CBT, I can go home happy .Still lots of work to do. The right back Abankwah was pony again and when Watson came on to replace him , we looked far more assured .COYR!
Don't know why this got two lol's, was exactly how I saw it.
He was pony last week & pony today.
He may be playing right back instead of right sided centre half, but you wouldn't want him in your Welling/Bromley etc team playing like that.
He's a complete liability & it's not his fault but hopefully he doesn't feature again for some time.
I also believe players are aware of what people post on social media, and saying someone is pony is insulting. He's our player FFS. It's possible to be constructively critical without using one word put downs.5 -
Ahh okay...thanks for clearing that up 😂Bedsaddick said:i don't need to justify why the scoreline flattered us - it just did. At 1-1 we were being run ragged at times and just because the keeper didn't have many saves to make is irrelevant. It's my opinion ( and others who have agreed with me)
If you're offended then I apologise but your opinion, in this case, is wrong..in my opinion of course.1
