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Fans Forum- Sept 14th 2023
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shine166 said:seth plum said:It may mean being able to work productively with all the other staff, and respect the viewpoint of others.
Obviously we don't want to be in a position where executives direct tactics or selection directly. But honestly the days of a manager having the power of a Fergie or Wenger (or even Curbishley) are pretty much done, rightly or wrongly.4 -
seth plum said:It may mean being able to work productively with all the other staff, and respect the viewpoint of others.6
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charltonbob said:Am I the only one to wonder how collegiate fits into the make up of a football manager ? Probably me just being a bit thick.
He said the club put together a long list and shortened it based on looking for someone:- Who is collegiate
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ElfsborgAddick said:LargeAddick said:Lucy has replied saying that although she couldn't herself attend she has been chasing the minutes and been told they are nearly ready.
Either way, it is crazy that at a fans forum meeting the fans advisor was not attending.
As for Lucy not being there, presumably she had very good reasons? She may have been ill, or had work commitments (both FAs work full-time and FA is an unpaid, voluntary role) or she may have had a sick relative to look after, for all anybody knows. Yet despite not being able to attend herself, she's still clearly responding to supporter queries arising from the meeting. And if I recall correctly from the published notes of other meetings she hasn't missed an FF meeting since becoming FA a couple of years ago, and usually chairs and writes up the minutes - not easy to do. So it's not 'crazy' at all if she missed one meeting, and a bit unnecessary to have a pop IMHO - especially without knowing the reasons for her absence.18 -
charltonbob said:Am I the only one to wonder how collegiate fits into the make up of a football manager ? Probably me just being a bit thick.
He said the club put together a long list and shortened it based on looking for someone:- Who is collegiate
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thenewbie said:shine166 said:seth plum said:It may mean being able to work productively with all the other staff, and respect the viewpoint of others.
Obviously we don't want to be in a position where executives direct tactics or selection directly. But honestly the days of a manager having the power of a Fergie or Wenger (or even Curbishley) are pretty much done, rightly or wrongly.0 -
Collegiate, but Scott holds the whip hand.0
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Surprisingly candid about Dean Holden's departure.3
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Some of you must be a nightmare to work with in the office. 'Let's try and work together here guys, be collegiate, yeah?' 'Fuck you I don't do what I'm told!'
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Davo55 said:Surprisingly candid about Dean Holden's departure.Not sure how to interpret what they said. On one level it comes across as well we told him to try and change things by doing x, y and z but he didn’t and results didn’t change so he was out. He didn’t comply enough.We will never really know I guess.0
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Henry Irving said:Clearly JR saying how great the museum is is the biggest takeaway but after that:
The club is being funded via equity rather than loans. That's good IMHO but leaves the questions regarding how much and how can it be increased, if required.
The motivation of the beneficial owners remains unclear but it seems they are going to be very hands off. This leaves Methvan as the key player in the whole deal. That he's at the ground and the training ground weekly and is using his PR skills to promote the club refutes any claims that he's not very much involved.
Agree with everyone who says actions not words and I remain cautious but the fans forum is doing what it it meant to do eg ask questions, raise issues, seek clarification and offer suggestions.0 -
valleynick66 said:Davo55 said:Surprisingly candid about Dean Holden's departure.Not sure how to interpret what they said. On one level it comes across as well we told him to try and change things by doing x, y and z but he didn’t and results didn’t change so he was out. He didn’t comply enough.We will never really know I guess.0
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Garrymanilow said:Some of you must be a nightmare to work with in the office. 'Let's try and work together here guys, be collegiate, yeah?' 'Fuck you I don't do what I'm told!'2
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Davo55 said:Surprisingly candid about Dean Holden's departure.
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DOUCHER said:Davo55 said:Surprisingly candid about Dean Holden's departure.
They're probably going to clear the first hurdle. Jury remains out on the second, for me.1 -
Mendonca In Asdas said:Haven’t had time yet to read the notes, does anyone know how much it was costing to run Charlton a season?2
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Can't argue with what was said at the meeting. One slightly ambiguous comment is over the appointment of Holden back in December
"He said DH was installed in Thomas Sandgaard’s time and was someone that was known to the ownership group."
So even if it was TS who actually appointed Holden, who recommended him to TS? Did the new owners push TS into appointing him as "their man", seeing that their takeover was expected to go through last January?2 -
Holden was their suggestion I believe.
As the owners have put equity in, I am still baffled how we are up against it with FFP unless we keep signing shite players on too much money......
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carly burn said:I'm not convinced in the Methven back seat stuff but other than that some good discussion there..
Will it be followed up with action?
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charltonbob said:Garrymanilow said:Some of you must be a nightmare to work with in the office. 'Let's try and work together here guys, be collegiate, yeah?' 'Fuck you I don't do what I'm told!'
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