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MATCH THREAD (+post p21): Cray Valley PM vs Charlton Athletic: FAC1 Replay Wed 15th Nov 2023 | 19:45
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May's not really a percentage player though to be fair. He's more about pure numbers - take enough shots and eventually one will go in.balham red said:You'd have to say it's absolutely mental that May didn't square the ball to Leaburn instead of shooting for his second goal. Yes, it went in, somehow, but that was far from the percentage play.
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It's getting a bit weird now. CBT has been involved in 41% of all our league goals this season, I think he might be doing ok for consistency..CAFCDAZ said:
Sam TBF he infuriates me with his inconsistencies, his had a good season, I wouldn't say great as he has not performed week in week out. Yesterday I cant actually remember him tracking back towards our box once, it was like he knew I was going to give him shit 😅. People always tend to defend him, yet jump on the back of the likes of Leaburn and Kirk, who I must admit has massively underperformed for us, but Jesus, he aint as bad as some make out.soapboxsam said:Calm down everybody especially @CAFCDAZ you will have blood pressure with your persecution of Corey Blackett-Taylor. He has been excellent this season even if he has gone AWOL in the last two matches which may be because he has been told to go inside when Edun overlaps and it's not quite working. CBT needs space to work in and in the 1st half the low block made this difficult.
Not quite sure with the body language of Miles Leaburn at the moment but it's the polar opposite to May and Dobson who play with a smile on their faces and enjoy every second of being a pro footballer which is a tough business with the abuse they can get online or at the ground as I heard Alfie getting some stick from a Neanderthal on BBC 2 last night.
I thought our passing was good all night but it was only effective when they tired and space became free all over the pitch as they just couldn't close down.
The second half was so one sided that if it had been boxing the referee would have stopped the contest !
Leaburn has a strike rate of 1 in 3 at 20 years old, his been played out of position more than a couple of times this season and has had a couple of shit performances, but what's CBT's excuses? His played in her preferred position all season, has been given consistent game time, freedom to attack and not defend by the looks of things, so what else can we do to see consistency with him?
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More consistent than any other winger in the leagueGarrymanilow said:
It's getting a bit weird now. CBT has been involved in 41% of all our league goals this season, I think he might be doing ok for consistency..CAFCDAZ said:
Sam TBF he infuriates me with his inconsistencies, his had a good season, I wouldn't say great as he has not performed week in week out. Yesterday I cant actually remember him tracking back towards our box once, it was like he knew I was going to give him shit 😅. People always tend to defend him, yet jump on the back of the likes of Leaburn and Kirk, who I must admit has massively underperformed for us, but Jesus, he aint as bad as some make out.soapboxsam said:Calm down everybody especially @CAFCDAZ you will have blood pressure with your persecution of Corey Blackett-Taylor. He has been excellent this season even if he has gone AWOL in the last two matches which may be because he has been told to go inside when Edun overlaps and it's not quite working. CBT needs space to work in and in the 1st half the low block made this difficult.
Not quite sure with the body language of Miles Leaburn at the moment but it's the polar opposite to May and Dobson who play with a smile on their faces and enjoy every second of being a pro footballer which is a tough business with the abuse they can get online or at the ground as I heard Alfie getting some stick from a Neanderthal on BBC 2 last night.
I thought our passing was good all night but it was only effective when they tired and space became free all over the pitch as they just couldn't close down.
The second half was so one sided that if it had been boxing the referee would have stopped the contest !
Leaburn has a strike rate of 1 in 3 at 20 years old, his been played out of position more than a couple of times this season and has had a couple of shit performances, but what's CBT's excuses? His played in her preferred position all season, has been given consistent game time, freedom to attack and not defend by the looks of things, so what else can we do to see consistency with him?
Anyway @cafcdaz I thought your mates told you that you just have a history of not liking flair players and wingers!0 -
Think that was about the opposition. Leaburn was proper fired up and celebrating goals with the rest of them at Pompey. Wouldn’t look into it that much.DA9 said:One thing I did notice last night, Leaburns whole body language and facial expressions, didn’t seem overly happy at all, even after scoring.4 -
Wasn't he with Watford as a youth though?Croydon said:
I am amazed at how many people seem to be seriously thinking that he would be any use at our level.fenlandaddick said:Wonder if Charlton will go in for Lisbie. Looks a talent, and surely he would jump at the chance?
There's certainly some skill there, and he might (I think he would) be worth a trial to see what he's capable of.
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McGrandles aside I should say lolCallumcafc said:
Think that was about the opposition. Leaburn was proper fired up and celebrating goals with the rest of them at Pompey. Wouldn’t look into it that much.DA9 said:One thing I did notice last night, Leaburns whole body language and facial expressions, didn’t seem overly happy at all, even after scoring.0 -
Was out last night and paid very little attention to the game while it was actually happening.Watched the 90mins back this morning, not sure whether it was the lack of anxiety about going 30 oddmins without scoring but I thought we were about as comfortable as we could have been.The pitch was poor and we adapted pretty well.Thought most players did ok, it must be hard to get up for a game like that. It was odd and I think it's a legacy of Cray Valley being a proper minnow and most fans hangers on, but there was zero atmosphere and much like the game at the Valley, where the number of Cray fans was impressive their crowd was silent.Nice to hear an honest assessment from the Cray Manager who gave us a bit of praise and admitted they could have conceded a few more.I actually thought the BBC coverage was pretty good and no ridiculous bias towards Cray. Even Danny Murphy gave Dobson and May some praise.Ultimately it's a game we could have done without, but Cray made a few bob and Alfie bumped his goals total up so it's all good.Just a shame that the "reward" for getting through is a trip to the bin dippers and that proxy stand.5
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I do think that Asimile needs to reduce the amount of times he cuts back once he has cleared the defender. First time crosses work. Miles is always going to be a threat with those first time crosses.3
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Bit of a mental stat.Our xG last night for the replay was 2.32. We scored six.
Our xG at the Valley was 3.16. We scored one.4 -
Fuel for the xDoubtersCallumcafc said:Bit of a mental stat.Our xG last night for the replay was 2.32. We scored six.
Our xG at the Valley was 3.16. We scored one.10 -
https://youtube.com/shorts/AYugAFifJII?si=SdCzwueXnFLRhq6FCallumcafc said:Bit of a mental stat.Our xG last night for the replay was 2.32. We scored six.
Our xG at the Valley was 3.16. We scored one.
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Looks much more reasonable when you say our total across the two ties was 5.48 and we scored seven.Scoham said:
Fuel for the xDoubtersCallumcafc said:Bit of a mental stat.Our xG last night for the replay was 2.32. We scored six.
Our xG at the Valley was 3.16. We scored one.
It all tends to even out over a period of matches… :-)4 -
I’m not writing him off but his name helps a lot, I’ve not seen anyone suggest any of their other players have potential despite some probably performing equally well.Croydon said:
I am amazed at how many people seem to be seriously thinking that he would be any use at our level.fenlandaddick said:Wonder if Charlton will go in for Lisbie. Looks a talent, and surely he would jump at the chance?1 -
Clem_Snide said:Was out last night and paid very little attention to the game while it was actually happening.Watched the 90mins back this morning, not sure whether it was the lack of anxiety about going 30 oddmins without scoring but I thought we were about as comfortable as we could have been.The pitch was poor and we adapted pretty well.Thought most players did ok, it must be hard to get up for a game like that. It was odd and I think it's a legacy of Cray Valley being a proper minnow and most fans hangers on, but there was zero atmosphere and much like the game at the Valley, where the number of Cray fans was impressive their crowd was silent.Nice to hear an honest assessment from the Cray Manager who gave us a bit of praise and admitted they could have conceded a few more.I actually thought the BBC coverage was pretty good and no ridiculous bias towards Cray. Even Danny Murphy gave Dobson and May some praise.Ultimately it's a game we could have done without, but Cray made a few bob and Alfie bumped his goals total up so it's all good.Just a shame that the "reward" for getting through is a trip to the bin dippers and that proxy stand.
As we have no game this weekend, as Appleton said, having this game yesterday wasn't a disaster. No injuries, TV money and 6 goals .3 -
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He would have always been a couple of minutes behind the live play with the TV delay...but needs must when the devil bites yer arse...0 -
That really wound me upseth plum said:
Couldn’t say Erith properly though.fenlandaddick said:DA9 said:Thought the BBC commentary was amateurish at best, cliched, pun heavy, and they were clearly desperate for an upset.
What annoyed me was the moron below the tv gantry shouting “fecking hit him” every time one of our players went down that side, also shouting “diving c*** “ at Alfie May.
Glad we smashed them now, just to annoy the hangers on and mentally challenged that were there.
The fact that Murphy looked cold and had to lower himself to visit that level of ground pleased me, no doubt his wife asked him about the catering on offer and will be complaining on social media anytime soon!
Funniest thing for me was seeing someone on MPA in the background flicking their light on and off rapidly to get on the TVI thought the commentator did his best considering how one sided the match was once they had run themselves out. He had done some homework on Charlton's recent form, and got a good mention of our academy players on the pitch and the success it has. All good PR on TV for the club.Always gonna get a bit of the underdog bias, and yes when the match fizzled out for Cray there was less to talk about.4 -
No we scored 2.Callumcafc said:Bit of a mental stat.Our xG last night for the replay was 2.32. We scored six.
Our xG at the Valley was 3.16. We scored one.
Kind of adds to the point that xG is a bit of a shit stat at times.0 -
I think you'll find that xG comparison shows the difference between our first team and kirk1
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Don't mean I can't still have a pop Chunes. Honestly I don't get the love for him, he pisses me off more than any other player, kirk included 😤Chunes said:
More consistent than any other winger in the leagueGarrymanilow said:
It's getting a bit weird now. CBT has been involved in 41% of all our league goals this season, I think he might be doing ok for consistency..CAFCDAZ said:
Sam TBF he infuriates me with his inconsistencies, his had a good season, I wouldn't say great as he has not performed week in week out. Yesterday I cant actually remember him tracking back towards our box once, it was like he knew I was going to give him shit 😅. People always tend to defend him, yet jump on the back of the likes of Leaburn and Kirk, who I must admit has massively underperformed for us, but Jesus, he aint as bad as some make out.soapboxsam said:Calm down everybody especially @CAFCDAZ you will have blood pressure with your persecution of Corey Blackett-Taylor. He has been excellent this season even if he has gone AWOL in the last two matches which may be because he has been told to go inside when Edun overlaps and it's not quite working. CBT needs space to work in and in the 1st half the low block made this difficult.
Not quite sure with the body language of Miles Leaburn at the moment but it's the polar opposite to May and Dobson who play with a smile on their faces and enjoy every second of being a pro footballer which is a tough business with the abuse they can get online or at the ground as I heard Alfie getting some stick from a Neanderthal on BBC 2 last night.
I thought our passing was good all night but it was only effective when they tired and space became free all over the pitch as they just couldn't close down.
The second half was so one sided that if it had been boxing the referee would have stopped the contest !
Leaburn has a strike rate of 1 in 3 at 20 years old, his been played out of position more than a couple of times this season and has had a couple of shit performances, but what's CBT's excuses? His played in her preferred position all season, has been given consistent game time, freedom to attack and not defend by the looks of things, so what else can we do to see consistency with him?
Anyway @cafcdaz I thought your mates told you that you just have a history of not liking flair players and wingers!0 -
Watching on TV it was interesting to see that when Asimwe, went forward, he’d fill in behind him. Saw him do the same a couple of times when Jones and Ness went forward on a run. That also freed Dobbo up from defensive cover.Covered End said:
Rot. He played ok & certainly put in effort.Billy_Mix said:
You saw him run?fenlandaddick said:Good run out for McGrandles. Worked well with Dobson, and his pass and neat footwork setup Campbell's goal
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My thought was that they didn’t want to overdo the celebrations against a much smaller club.Callumcafc said:
Think that was about the opposition. Leaburn was proper fired up and celebrating goals with the rest of them at Pompey. Wouldn’t look into it that much.DA9 said:One thing I did notice last night, Leaburns whole body language and facial expressions, didn’t seem overly happy at all, even after scoring.5 -
He's been on the books of two academies and neither saw enough from him to keep him on. No club above the 8th tier did either.NornIrishAddick said:
Wasn't he with Watford as a youth though?Croydon said:
I am amazed at how many people seem to be seriously thinking that he would be any use at our level.fenlandaddick said:Wonder if Charlton will go in for Lisbie. Looks a talent, and surely he would jump at the chance?
There's certainly some skill there, and he might (I think he would) be worth a trial to see what he's capable of.
If it wasn't for his surname I doubt anyone would have even clocked who it was that scored their penalty.
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Kevin Lisbie’s whole demeanour in the post match chat was very odd. He seemed moody, even pissed off to me. I really thought he’d be buzzing and bursting with pride at his son scoring their goal, but he behaved like they’d had a bust up or something. Even when Kyrell left after being interviewed, Kevin just gave him a polite handshake, no smiles, hugs, pats on the back or any indication of pride.aliwibble said:
Given the discussion on the telly after the game, it sounds like his dad agreedcharltonbob said:
Somebody said he was a shit dancerKBslittlesis said:Who was Lisbie Jnr giving verbals to in the corner after he scored the pen?He looked genuinely angry.
I reckon if it had been me I’d have been waxing lyrical about my boy and letting him know how proud of him I was, but he didn’t even really say very much that was positive.I’m sure he is very proud, I just don’t think he showed it after the game. I just found it all a bit weird.0 -
Precisely. If we (somehow) end up needing a prodigious teenage striker to step up to the mark, we already have one - Kanu. Who has been scoring at a much higher level than Lisbie Jr.Croydon said:
He's been on the books of two academies and neither saw enough from him to keep him on. No club above the 8th tier did either.NornIrishAddick said:
Wasn't he with Watford as a youth though?Croydon said:
I am amazed at how many people seem to be seriously thinking that he would be any use at our level.fenlandaddick said:Wonder if Charlton will go in for Lisbie. Looks a talent, and surely he would jump at the chance?
There's certainly some skill there, and he might (I think he would) be worth a trial to see what he's capable of.
If it wasn't for his surname I doubt anyone would have even clocked who it was that scored their penalty.
We've got enough of our own talent to nurture.5 -
Having watched the 'penalty' incident again, does anyone else think that after his initial balls up,Walker pulled a bit of a flanker on the ref? If you watch it, after he kicks Lisbie in the bojangles,he steps back into the area,where Lisbie was laying,therefore giving the officials the impression the whole thing occurred inside the box =The ref gives a pen and books him rather than a red and a free kick for outside. Maybe i'm giving him too much credit🤷♂️2
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Think you're crediting Walker with too much brains.Redvalleyeast said:Having watched the 'penalty' incident again, does anyone else think that after his initial balls up,Walker pulled a bit of a flanker on the ref? If you watch it, after he kicks Lisbie in the bojangles,he steps back into the area,where Lisbie was laying,therefore giving the officials the impression the whole thing occurred inside the box =The ref gives a pen and books him rather than a red and a free kick for outside. Maybe i'm giving him too much credit🤷♂️
Ihalf expected him to go heehaw, heehaw when the ref walked up to him4 -
Thought i probably was😂Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
Think you're crediting Walker with too much brains.Redvalleyeast said:Having watched the 'penalty' incident again, does anyone else think that after his initial balls up,Walker pulled a bit of a flanker on the ref? If you watch it, after he kicks Lisbie in the bojangles,he steps back into the area,where Lisbie was laying,therefore giving the officials the impression the whole thing occurred inside the box =The ref gives a pen and books him rather than a red and a free kick for outside. Maybe i'm giving him too much credit🤷♂️
Ihalf expected him to go heehaw, heehaw when the ref walked up to him0 -
Danny Murphy made a very simular point at half time redvalleyeast. Walker may have walked back enough for the ref to be persuaded the kick likely occurred in the box.Redvalleyeast said:
Thought i probably was😂Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
Think you're crediting Walker with too much brains.Redvalleyeast said:Having watched the 'penalty' incident again, does anyone else think that after his initial balls up,Walker pulled a bit of a flanker on the ref? If you watch it, after he kicks Lisbie in the bojangles,he steps back into the area,where Lisbie was laying,therefore giving the officials the impression the whole thing occurred inside the box =The ref gives a pen and books him rather than a red and a free kick for outside. Maybe i'm giving him too much credit🤷♂️
Ihalf expected him to go heehaw, heehaw when the ref walked up to him0
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