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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed

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  • I'd be delighted if it were to be Jones but I'm just concerned about how our fanbase would be with him.

    He's going to say some weird stuff in press conferences/post match interviews. Now I don't mind that sort of crap but some will not get him and unless we get off to a good start this could turn sour quickly.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,994
    sam3110 said:
    I'd take Rowett over anyone else right now tbh
    He left Millwall because he wanted to move back north and spend more time with family. Zero chance we are going to persuade him to move back down south less than a year later and at the bottom of the league below.
  • Regarding Jones, I think he falls into a similar category that a lot of ex-Stoke managers -  none of them in recent years could get it working there!

    Bit of a downward spiral they have been on for some years now considering where they were for so long.
  • TeeC
    TeeC Posts: 311
    Regarding Jones, I think he falls into a similar category that a lot of ex-Stoke managers -  none of them in recent years could get it working there!

    Bit of a downward spiral they have been on for some years now considering where they were for so long.
    Sounds… familiar 
  • It’s much easier to contextualise why a football player is league one quality compared to premiership quality.

    But what is it that makes a manager better than another manager. I doubt it anything to do with work ethic, or IQ level though obviously they would help. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,283
    Take the relegation comment out of it and that press conference from Fleming really highlights how Appleton didn’t get his communication right. That isn’t me saying get Fleming in obviously but just that it’s such an important thing
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    Well we’ve had cheap disasters so we might as well try an expensive one. 
    "Money doesn't buy you happiness but it does buy you a better quality of misery"
  • It’s much easier to contextualise why a football player is league one quality compared to premiership quality.

    But what is it that makes a manager better than another manager. I doubt it anything to do with work ethic, or IQ level though obviously they would help. 
    Its impossible, too many variables involved to really quantify a managers impact.
  • TeeC said:
    Regarding Jones, I think he falls into a similar category that a lot of ex-Stoke managers -  none of them in recent years could get it working there!

    Bit of a downward spiral they have been on for some years now considering where they were for so long.
    Sounds… familiar 
    Doesn't it just! 🤦‍♂️

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,251
    Must admit I’m wary of getting Jones. Comes across sometimes as a bit of a knob and does he like himself a bit too much ? Plenty of support for him on this thread though so I’ll bow to better knowledge than mine. One positive though. I’m guessing that in order to come to us I think he’ll have had plenty of assurances about team building. That can only be good.
    A few years ago would have been over the moon to get Nathan Jones.  Met when he was at Charlton and always thought he'd do well.  Very clever coach and a good motivator.

    But has had some weird things going on more recently.  Agree that Stoke has been a graveyard for managers in recent years (I blame their HR Manager) and that Southampton we're probably going down regardless but some of his statements and decisions were strange.

    Maybe he needs a re-set as much as we do.

    BTW all you 80s kids, it's a Supremes song, not Bananarama.
  • #cafc caretaker boss Curtis Fleming: "I had Bryan Robson as a manager for seven years. I'm not name-dropping him as a bit of a legend...he wasn't a brilliant coach but what a man, what a man - you'd go to war for him.

    "That's half the battle. When you play it's so important to…

    — Richard Cawley (@RichCawleySLP) January 25, 2024
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,349
    edited January 2024
    With all due respect, I think Rowett, and a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,349
    sam3110 said:
    I'd take Rowett over anyone else right now tbh
    He left Millwall because he wanted to move back north and spend more time with family. Zero chance we are going to persuade him to move back down south less than a year later and at the bottom of the league below.
    Spot on. 
  • Am I the only one who thought the Fleming interview was great?   I've seen the comments about his "relegation battle" comments, but I think he's right.   We're not.....yet.   It's in our hands and on our side, especially with the new signings.         

    Give him a few games to see what he can do.  At the end of the day, he IS a new shout.  Only been here 2 weeks.   Not more of the same.   

    Come on Curtis, prove me right!


  • BetterCallSaul
    BetterCallSaul Posts: 357
    edited January 2024
    Just googled Nathan Jones to jog my memory on him. Not sure I like the look of him lads. Can’t put my finger on it but there’s something about him that doesn’t sit right with me. Think he reminds me of someone
  • Just googled Nathan Jones to jog my memory on him. Not sure I like the look of him lads. Can’t put my finger on it but there’s something about him that doesn’t sit right with me. Think he reminds me of someone
    He's not that tough. Brad Pitt took him out in about 5 seconds. (In the film Troy, for those that don't get that reference)
  • sam3110 said:
    I'd take Rowett over anyone else right now tbh
    He left Millwall because he wanted to move back north and spend more time with family. Zero chance we are going to persuade him to move back down south less than a year later and at the bottom of the league below.
    What people say are their reasons and what are the actual reasons are quite often very different. Not saying it’s not 100% accurate but just saying. 
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,028
    sam3110 said:
    I'm only 5 mins into his press conference but already a massive red flag where he's asked if we're in a relegation fight and he says no I don't think so.

    We fucking are matey
    Good interview. I was impressed with his honesty and didn't avoid any questions. Don't agree about red flag but it was clear he wants our players to stop waving a white one.

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  • Comment by a renowned poster on another forum suggesting that contact has been made with Jones. Was rather hoping that off the back of @jbaker post we might be a little further ahead than that but it is I suppose still early in the process.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,373
    With all due respect, I think Rowett, a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 
    That's why we're going to end up with someone like Simon Grayson.
  • Chunes said:
    With all due respect, I think Rowett, a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 
    That's why we're going to end up with someone like Simon Grayson.
    Shut that door
  • fenlandaddick
    fenlandaddick Posts: 1,770
    edited January 2024
    Has anyone mentioned Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank? Knows the league and has some great experience from the England work.
    Club legend as well being an ex player. Ticks all the boxes....

    Might not get his arse through the door mind




  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,840
    sam3110 said:
    I'd take Rowett over anyone else right now tbh
    He left Millwall because he wanted to move back north and spend more time with family. Zero chance we are going to persuade him to move back down south less than a year later and at the bottom of the league below.
    Whether we are appealing enough is one thing, but I never bought the ‘want to be closer to home’ angle given when he left Millwall. I think it had run its course and he was getting out at exactly the right time. 
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,383
    edited January 2024
    BigDiddy said:
    How about we get AI to design a manager for us?

    Knowing our luck, it would end up like a Frankenstein!
    Here he is. Looks like the lovechild of Bowyer and Riga.


    He’s already lost the players. They’ve all turned their back on him.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,899
    Paul Hurst at 12/1 would be a great coup on the basis that he only bloody took over at Shrewsbury yesterday.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,887
    edited January 2024
    RedChaser said:
    ross1 said:
    Why Jones in defence?, TT has been playing better
    Agreed and the full backs are poor at defending, we need clean sheets and must abandon the Kevin Keegan we’ll score more than you approach 😤.
    Well I’m blowed just listened to Curtis Fleming’s press conference and has quoted me almost verbatim, come on @AFKABartram own up he’s recently become a lifer hasn’t he 😉
  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    With all due respect, I think Rowett, and a lot of the other names mentioned on this thread, would rather wait for a bigger job to come along. And a better run club. 
    We’ll see, maybe he fancies managing a bigger club 👍🏻