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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,390
    If the choice is between Nathan Jones and Andy Scott still keeping his responsibilities.

    The correct choice is pretty obvious to me. 
    Are we clear on what Scott’s responsibilities are? Some have blamed him for the managerial appointments but Cawley’s said that’s not entirely Scott’s decision.
  • Addick_8 said:
    Swisdom said:
    I’ll say it out loud and yes I’ve seen the league table and our points per game blah blah etc.

    We won’t go down.

    Therefore as much as I’d love to see Warnock on the touch line it should be a long term appointment, get Jones in do whatever it takes.  
    That's exactly where I am.  We'll be fine this year and I want Nathan Jones to be given free reign to do what he wants with our team and let the little Weird Welsh Alchemist do his thing
    Still find this overconfidence about us being too good to go down crazy. 
    We should be in the bottom three as of now, it's a point deduction the reason why we are not and some suggest either way we are not in the bottom 3 but that isn't the way to look at it.
    If Blackpool took their chances Saturday, we would have lost that game 4/5-0. 
    We need this new manager asap. If we get this appointment wrong, we will go down.
    I've said before so I'll say it again, IF my Aunt had a knob she'd be my Uncle.

    Let's deal in facts rather than ifs.
    Reading have got a points deduction Blackpool didn't take there chances (and nor did we in the final couple of minutes).
    We do need a manager asap but it has to be the right manager now and moving forward and that might take more time than people want.
    We are in a precarious position in the league and no team is too good to go down.
    We are not in the bottom 3 but we could be if results don't improve.
    As you say we must get this appointment right but to get the right appointment it doesn't have to be right now.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,305
    fenaddick said:
    People seem to be saying Warnock is only good in a relegation fight but he’s got a good promotion record too. I’d go for Jones personally but Warnock wouldn’t be just looking at the next 6 months 
    When was his last promotion though? 

    Not sure he’s got it in him anymore for a full season, his recent attempts haven’t been great where he’s been given a summer and started the season somewhere 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,029
    edited February 2024
    A question on a scenario:

    We go into Saturday's game with Fleming and Pearce in charge, the team play well and gain a well deserved victory.

    The search for a new manager is ongoing with none of the candidates being thought to be the one but at least one of them while favoured is asking for guarantees that the Owners/SMT are not sure about.

    Should the club leave the current management twosome in place for the rest of the season and take time to find the what they consider the right person to take the club forward next season

    or

    Appoint one of the current interviewees
    I think no one answered because it's an unlikely scenario and there is no obvious answer.
    I would say they should make a decision and appoint someone who they consider to be the best candidate regardless of results under Fleming/Pearce.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,225
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    People seem to be saying Warnock is only good in a relegation fight but he’s got a good promotion record too. I’d go for Jones personally but Warnock wouldn’t be just looking at the next 6 months 
    When was his last promotion though? 

    Not sure he’s got it in him anymore for a full season, his recent attempts haven’t been great where he’s been given a summer and started the season somewhere 
    Think that’s because he’s been getting Championship jobs where I agree he isn’t up to promotion anymore. L1 is much more like the Championship used to be, I think he’d do ok and would be a pull to players 
  • Oh Eddie Youds...
    Oh Eddie Youds... Posts: 1,320
    edited February 2024
    Please stop saying ' we wont go down'

    We aint won in 15, have a very difficult Feb and the whole place could be in pieces by March!
    Exactly. MK Dons fans claimed last year to be too good & too big, with their lovely stadium, to go down.

    We’re in freefall and struggling to create chances in games that could change that.

    It’s time for fans & the SMT to wake up. If it wasn’t for teams below us having points deductions or games in hand that they haven’t yet played, we would be well & truely in the shit.
  • Please stop saying ' we wont go down'

    We aint won in 15, have a very difficult Feb and the whole place could be in pieces by March!
    ...But it might not be...🤦‍♂️
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Charlton Life advert algorithm working in perfect harmony with our current plight


  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited February 2024
    De Canio, Sinclair, David James, Minto, Defoe, Bowyer, Hutchinson, Winterburn and Carrick.
    9 reasons why West Ham shouldn't have been relegated from the Premier in 2002/3 season but they did as the rest of the squad were bang average(or poor) or the youngsters were not given their chance by Glenn Roeder ( sacked in April) 
    Brooking caretaker until end of season when they were in 18th and fell through the trap door.

    Cafc are imploding and without some teamwork, backbone and a stronger mentality, of course we could drop. Once you are rudderless it's hard to stop.

    We need someone a little crazy to come in and be our saviour...
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,797
    Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?

    I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.

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  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    edited February 2024
    Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?

    I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
    I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,475
    edited February 2024
    After narrowly missing out on capturing Danny Cowley, their second choice after appointing Michael Appleton ,Charlton are willing to wait for him to be relieved of his duties by Colchester United in the summer to finally get their man.

    Don't shoot the messenger.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,200


    We need someone a little crazy to come in and be our saviour...
    Announce Guy Luzon. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,340
    Uboat said:


    We need someone a little crazy to come in and be our saviour...
    Announce Guy Luzon. 
    Stuart Pearce, lol
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,737
    Addick_8 said:
    Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?

    I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
    I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.

    Mental gymnastics every window by the same people trying to convince themselves everything is fine and under control. Southall's deadline day was good, the deadline day loan shambles of the summer was good, apparently no manager or further improvements is good.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,797
    edited February 2024
    Addick_8 said:
    Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?

    I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
    I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.

    Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.

    If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?

    These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
  • Croydon said:
    Addick_8 said:
    Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?

    I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
    I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.

    Mental gymnastics every window by the same people trying to convince themselves everything is fine and under control. Southall's deadline day was good, the deadline day loan shambles of the summer was good, apparently no manager or further improvements is good.
    Can someone point me out to where someone said 'it is acceptable and normal to be in the situation we are now'. I'd like to respond to that message with my thoughts.


  • fenaddick said:
    People seem to be saying Warnock is only good in a relegation fight but he’s got a good promotion record too. I’d go for Jones personally but Warnock wouldn’t be just looking at the next 6 months 
    They will bring in a yes man.

    Unless there is a dramatic restructure, the three 🤡 s are not going to want somebody working on their terms.

    Warnock for a start will not suffer any s***.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,225
    If this is true then this is a proper old school rumour https://x.com/liamcafc1991/status/1753053395265495212?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,475
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    Redknapp flying up the rear!
    Surely Edmonds has been out of the game too long?

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,305
    Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?

    I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
    Our only successes have come when we have had a manager with loads of control (Curbs, Powell, Bowyer). So it does make sense that a lot of our fans think this is the best way to do things 

    The old way can still work of course, but you are much more likely to get long term success with a more modern set up. The technical director role and responsibilities isn’t the problem, the problem is that Scott has done a very poor job so far in the role 
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    Redknapp flying up the rear!
    Surely Edmonds has been out of the game too long?


    Easy Peasy lemon Squeezy...😉
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,797
    Morning odds…

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Nigel Pearson 3/1
    - Neil Warnock 4/1
    - Michael Duff 5/1
    - John Eustace 5/1
    - Mark Bonner 10/1
    - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
    - 16/1 bar
    27th January morning update…

    - Nathan Jones 1/2
    - Alex Neil 7/2
    - Neil Warnock 6/1
    - Michael Duff 6/1
    - Nigel Pearson 8/1
    - John Eustace 10/1
    - 20/1 bar
    28th January update…

    - Nathan Jones 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 6/1
    - Michael Duff 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 8/1
    - Nigel Pearson 10/1
    - John Eustace 12/1
    - 20/1 bar
    29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
    30th January…

    - Nathan Jones 4/7
    - Mark Warburton 4/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 10/1
    - Michael Duff 10/1
    - Nigel Pearson 12/1
    - Darren Moore 14/1
    - 20/1 bar

    31st January

    - Nathan Jones EVS
    - Gary Rowett 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 5/1
    - Alex Neil 10/1
    - Michael Duff 12/1
    - Neil Warnock 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 14/1
    - Darren Moore 16/1
    - 20/1 bar
    1st Feb

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Neil Warnock 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 5/1
    - Mark Warburton 8/1
    - Alex Neil 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 16/1
    - Darren Moore 20/1
    - Michael Duff 20/1
    - 25/1 bar
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,213
    Morning odds…

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Nigel Pearson 3/1
    - Neil Warnock 4/1
    - Michael Duff 5/1
    - John Eustace 5/1
    - Mark Bonner 10/1
    - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
    - 16/1 bar
    27th January morning update…

    - Nathan Jones 1/2
    - Alex Neil 7/2
    - Neil Warnock 6/1
    - Michael Duff 6/1
    - Nigel Pearson 8/1
    - John Eustace 10/1
    - 20/1 bar
    28th January update…

    - Nathan Jones 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 6/1
    - Michael Duff 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 8/1
    - Nigel Pearson 10/1
    - John Eustace 12/1
    - 20/1 bar
    29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
    30th January…

    - Nathan Jones 4/7
    - Mark Warburton 4/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 10/1
    - Michael Duff 10/1
    - Nigel Pearson 12/1
    - Darren Moore 14/1
    - 20/1 bar

    31st January

    - Nathan Jones EVS
    - Gary Rowett 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 5/1
    - Alex Neil 10/1
    - Michael Duff 12/1
    - Neil Warnock 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 14/1
    - Darren Moore 16/1
    - 20/1 bar
    1st Feb

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Neil Warnock 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 5/1
    - Mark Warburton 8/1
    - Alex Neil 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 16/1
    - Darren Moore 20/1
    - Michael Duff 20/1
    - 25/1 bar
    There’s clearly no clue from the bookies POV, may as well have a small punt on Duff and Pearson at them prices.  
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,362
    edited February 2024
    Addick_8 said:
    Did Jones ever have control over transfers at Luton, Stoke or Southampton? I’m not sure he did. Input perhaps, total control though?

    I find it really strange that people think we’re the only club operating this way.
    I find it really strange that people going into two transfer deadline days (with a lot of work still needing to be done) without a Head coach/manager in place is normal or acceptable.

    Kind of separate to the point I was making but fair enough.

    If you had a choice between keeping Appleton for two more games (Blackpool, Derby this weekend) and having some deadline day signings or getting rid of him and having no deadline day signings, what’s the preference?

    These are the kind of points I was trying to make in favour of keeping him a bit longer but the sentiment against him became too strong.
    There is another choice in there which was bringing in a manager, given MA was so clearly on the way out
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,043
    fenaddick said:
    If this is true then this is a proper old school rumour https://x.com/liamcafc1991/status/1753053395265495212?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
    Scouting for our next striker before the announcement has been made, love that Nath 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,390
    Morning odds…

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Nigel Pearson 3/1
    - Neil Warnock 4/1
    - Michael Duff 5/1
    - John Eustace 5/1
    - Mark Bonner 10/1
    - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
    - 16/1 bar
    27th January morning update…

    - Nathan Jones 1/2
    - Alex Neil 7/2
    - Neil Warnock 6/1
    - Michael Duff 6/1
    - Nigel Pearson 8/1
    - John Eustace 10/1
    - 20/1 bar
    28th January update…

    - Nathan Jones 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 6/1
    - Michael Duff 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 8/1
    - Nigel Pearson 10/1
    - John Eustace 12/1
    - 20/1 bar
    29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
    30th January…

    - Nathan Jones 4/7
    - Mark Warburton 4/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 10/1
    - Michael Duff 10/1
    - Nigel Pearson 12/1
    - Darren Moore 14/1
    - 20/1 bar

    31st January

    - Nathan Jones EVS
    - Gary Rowett 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 5/1
    - Alex Neil 10/1
    - Michael Duff 12/1
    - Neil Warnock 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 14/1
    - Darren Moore 16/1
    - 20/1 bar
    1st Feb

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Neil Warnock 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 5/1
    - Mark Warburton 8/1
    - Alex Neil 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 16/1
    - Darren Moore 20/1
    - Michael Duff 20/1
    - 25/1 bar
    There’s clearly no clue from the bookies POV, may as well have a small punt on Duff and Pearson at them prices.  
    Tempting to put money on a random no name outsider and watch the chaos on here 🍿
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,511
    If the choice is between Nathan Jones and Andy Scott still keeping his responsibilities.

    The correct choice is pretty obvious to me. 
    As it’s been said today by Richard Crawley that Scott has no interference in the manager role at Charlton but people still won’t listen 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,797
    Scoham said:
    Morning odds…

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Nigel Pearson 3/1
    - Neil Warnock 4/1
    - Michael Duff 5/1
    - John Eustace 5/1
    - Mark Bonner 10/1
    - Gareth Ainsworth 14/1
    - 16/1 bar
    27th January morning update…

    - Nathan Jones 1/2
    - Alex Neil 7/2
    - Neil Warnock 6/1
    - Michael Duff 6/1
    - Nigel Pearson 8/1
    - John Eustace 10/1
    - 20/1 bar
    28th January update…

    - Nathan Jones 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 6/1
    - Michael Duff 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 8/1
    - Nigel Pearson 10/1
    - John Eustace 12/1
    - 20/1 bar
    29th January update, unchanged from 24 hours ago
    30th January…

    - Nathan Jones 4/7
    - Mark Warburton 4/1
    - Gary Rowett 4/1
    - Alex Neil 8/1
    - Neil Warnock 10/1
    - Michael Duff 10/1
    - Nigel Pearson 12/1
    - Darren Moore 14/1
    - 20/1 bar

    31st January

    - Nathan Jones EVS
    - Gary Rowett 2/1
    - Mark Warburton 5/1
    - Alex Neil 10/1
    - Michael Duff 12/1
    - Neil Warnock 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 14/1
    - Darren Moore 16/1
    - 20/1 bar
    1st Feb

    - Nathan Jones 6/4
    - Neil Warnock 2/1
    - Gary Rowett 5/1
    - Mark Warburton 8/1
    - Alex Neil 12/1
    - Nigel Pearson 16/1
    - Darren Moore 20/1
    - Michael Duff 20/1
    - 25/1 bar
    There’s clearly no clue from the bookies POV, may as well have a small punt on Duff and Pearson at them prices.  
    Tempting to put money on a random no name outsider and watch the chaos on here 🍿
    Steve McKimm 3/1
  • fenaddick said:
    If this is true then this is a proper old school rumour https://x.com/liamcafc1991/status/1753053395265495212?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
    Scouting for our next striker before the announcement has been made, love that Nath 
    I love the way it was shot down straight away because it's sunny today