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Charlton Athletic v Lincoln City | Tuesday 13 February 24 | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views

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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,760
    Sadly this team , no matter who the manager is , hasn’t got a win in it. . 2-0 defeat . Thank you Andy Scott - Pillock 
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,523
    edited February 2024
    We need to change up the formation, you can't play a formation that relies heavily on good attacking full backs when you don't have any, so that rules out 3 at the back and a diamond for me. (unless he tries Ramsay and Small in the hope they are good enough)

    If we're sticking with Edun and Watson then I'd go with the below. 

                                                                                                Isted

                                       Watson OR REG                  Jones                          Gilsephey OR Thomas             Edun

                                                              Dobson OR Bakinson                 Coventry

                                                                                             Camara 

                                                             May                          Ladapo                  Kanu        


  • Codfishjunior
    Codfishjunior Posts: 367
    DubaiCAFC said:
    NabySarr said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    I really hope we change formation Tuesday. 4231 would be my choice.. Yes, maybe lacking natural wingers.. As poor as he has been, I would be tempted to play Edun as a winger, and try and use his pace.
                   Istad
    Ramsey Reg Jones Gilesphey
           Dobson Coventry
                     Camara
    May                          Tayo
                    Kanu (If chucks can't start)

    Let's face it May has been in effective when he has played up top, his best form and ours is when he is deeper. 

    Ah yes, because this worked so well with Appleton and we at least had CBT on the wing then. Take him out and the 4-2-3-1 that lost games for most of the last 2 months has even less chance of working 

    If we do play with wingers (we shouldn’t) then surely Tyreece Campbell would be an automatic selection? 
    And 3 5 2 has worked so well?

    Not sure if any has the stats on the formations we played v results. 

    Campbell is miles off it at the moment, his head isn't in it
    He has never been any good
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,623
    Just hope to see some signs that there is fight in these players, it’s gonna take a few games for Jones to find a formation that might work but in the meantime there has to be a step forward in commitment and desire at the very least.
  • FULLERpromise
    FULLERpromise Posts: 341
    covered_end_junior said:
    We need to change up the formation, you can't play a formation that relies heavily on good attacking full backs when you don't have any, so that rules out 3 at the back and a diamond for me. (unless he tries Ramsay and Small in the hope they are good enough)

    If we're sticking with Edun and Watson then I'd go with the below. 

                                                                                                Isted

                                       Watson/REG                  Jones                                            Gilsephey/TT)              Edun

                                                                               Dobson/Bakinson                 Coventry

                                                                                             Camara 

                                                             May                          Ladapo                  Kanu        


    Ahh the classic 2-2-1-1-1-2-1 formation why not 
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,355
    The good ship Charlton athletic slowly starts a huge u turn with a scrappy 2-1 win.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,357
    edited February 2024
    Press Conference: 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,268
    edited February 2024
    Bloody hell, what to make of this lot. For me Ramsey has to start, Tennai Watson had a shocker on Saturday culminating with his weak header straight to Femi Azeez, shame he couldn't provide like that at the other end. I would drop Edun but there doesn't seem to be a natural replacement, thanks Andy. Midfield, if Dobson is in the right frame of mind then he has to play, sorry the Louie Watson fan club but he was shit on Saturday and doesn't deserve a starting spot, up front May, Lapado and Kanu. People may not agree but the loss of McGrandles is a blow to Lincoln, considering he hadn't played for two months, he made an appearance off the bench and started against Fleetwood, two appearances, two wins. Plus their centre back Adam Jackson is out after a clash with Jayden Stockley on Saturday. 
                                                  Isted
                               Ramsay-  REG - Jones - Thomas-Edun
                                                 Dobson 
                                    Bakinson        Coventry 

                                          May -Lapado- Kanu
       
                           Subs AMB, Gilliphrey, Camara, Tennai Watson 
                                          Anderson, Louie Watson, Aneke
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,358
    ross1 said:
    Must not start with Loadopoo, need Kanu with May. Hopefully Chuks can play some minutes 
    Loadapoo!   Thanks mate, that's class.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,259
    edited February 2024
    Sounds from NJ's presser that Dobbo could be back and Chuks on the bench. With Dobson strengthening us at the back and half an hour each of Camara and Aneke we just might sneak a win.
    Diamond needed:

                       Istead
    REG Jones Gillesphey Thomas
                        Dobson
                Coventry Bakinson
                       LWatson (then Camara)
                May Kanu (then Aneke)

    AMB, Ness, TWatson, Campbell, Camara, Ladapo, Aneke
                  


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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    We've somehow ended up on the position where no formation is a natural fit for us:

    3-5-2 - weak at wing back
    4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 no wingers (or at least only a badly out of form Tyreece Campbell)
    Diamond - no natural No.10

    What a mess
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,259
    Exiled_Addick said:
    We've somehow ended up on the position where no formation is a natural fit for us:

    3-5-2 - weak at wing back
    4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 no wingers (or at least only a badly out of form Tyreece Campbell)
    Diamond - no natural No.10

    What a mess
    Camara can play 10, but has to be a lot fitter than he is now to play more than 30m.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,707
    Exiled_Addick said:
    We've somehow ended up on the position where no formation is a natural fit for us:

    3-5-2 - weak at wing back
    4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 no wingers (or at least only a badly out of form Tyreece Campbell)
    Diamond - no natural No.10

    What a mess
    May could play as a 10 with Kanu and Ladapo up top. 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Redrobo said:
    I would keep to 3-5-2 and play the wing backs we signed in January to do that. Dobson and Coventry center with Camera in front of them. May and Kanu up top.
    make that Louie Watson and we have the beginnings of a chance
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,259
    Bailey said:
    Bloody hell, what to make of this lot. For me Ramsey has to start, Tennai Watson had a shocker on Saturday culminating with his weak header straight to Femi Azeez, shame he couldn't provide like that at the other end. I would drop Edun but there doesn't seem to be a natural replacement, thanks Andy. Midfield, if Dobson is in the right frame of mind then he has to play, sorry the Louie Watson fan club but he was shit on Saturday and doesn't deserve a starting spot, up front May, Lapado and Kanu. People may not agree but the loss of McGrandles is a blow to Lincoln, considering he hadn't played for two months, he made an appearance off the bench and started against Fleetwood, two appearances, two wins. Plus their centre back Adam Jackson is out after a clash with Jayden Stockley on Saturday. 
                                                  Isted
                               Ramsay-  REG - Jones - Thomas-Edun
                                                 Dobson 
                                    Bakinson        Coventry 

                                          May -Lapado- Kanu
       
                           Subs AMB, Gilliphrey, Camara, Tennai Watson 
                                          Anderson, Louie Watson, Aneke
    It would be good to play with 12, not sure we would get away with it. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,268
    Southbank said:
    Bailey said:
    Bloody hell, what to make of this lot. For me Ramsey has to start, Tennai Watson had a shocker on Saturday culminating with his weak header straight to Femi Azeez, shame he couldn't provide like that at the other end. I would drop Edun but there doesn't seem to be a natural replacement, thanks Andy. Midfield, if Dobson is in the right frame of mind then he has to play, sorry the Louie Watson fan club but he was shit on Saturday and doesn't deserve a starting spot, up front May, Lapado and Kanu. People may not agree but the loss of McGrandles is a blow to Lincoln, considering he hadn't played for two months, he made an appearance off the bench and started against Fleetwood, two appearances, two wins. Plus their centre back Adam Jackson is out after a clash with Jayden Stockley on Saturday. 
                                                  Isted
                               Ramsay-  REG - Jones - Thomas-Edun
                                                 Dobson 
                                    Bakinson        Coventry 

                                          May -Lapado- Kanu
       
                           Subs AMB, Gilliphrey, Camara, Tennai Watson 
                                          Anderson, Louie Watson, Aneke
    It would be good to play with 12, not sure we would get away with it. 
    That will teach me to copy and paste 
                                                   Isted
                               Ramsay-  REG - Jones - Thomas
                                                 Dobson 
                                    Bakinson        Coventry 

                                          May -Lapado- Kanu
       
                           Subs AMB, Gilliphrey, Camara, Tennai Watson 
                                          Anderson, Louie Watson, Aneke
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,631
    Must win. That’s it. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    edited February 2024
    Southbank said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    We've somehow ended up on the position where no formation is a natural fit for us:

    3-5-2 - weak at wing back
    4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 no wingers (or at least only a badly out of form Tyreece Campbell)
    Diamond - no natural No.10

    What a mess
    Camara can play 10, but has to be a lot fitter than he is now to play more than 30m.
    To me, Camara looks like a player who needs to be coming from deeper. His big strength is he can drive forward on the ball and get us up the pitch. To do that he needs to be picking up the ball in our half or around the halfway line. 

    king addick said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    We've somehow ended up on the position where no formation is a natural fit for us:

    3-5-2 - weak at wing back
    4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 no wingers (or at least only a badly out of form Tyreece Campbell)
    Diamond - no natural No.10

    What a mess
    May could play as a 10 with Kanu and Ladapo up top. 
    This was effective in a 4231 where your 10 needs to be more of a second striker. In a diamond the 10 has far more midfield type duties. May will work hard enough, but it wouldn't be natural for him, and it would take him further away from the goalscoring positions we desperately need to start getting him into again.

    Watson or Fiorini are probably two players closest to being a natural 10 in diamond. The diamond with Watson off May and Kanu/Ladapo is probably our best option to start tomorrow, but I don't know... I don't a have a lot of faith in anything working after Saturday. The fight has just gone out of too many of them at the moment and until Jones manages to reinstill some of that in a few of them, the formation won't make that much difference,..
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,358
    This lot are shot. I predicted a 1-1 earlier but we are so pony...

    C'mon Charlton, show some cojones!
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,820
    DubaiCAFC said:
    I really hope we change formation Tuesday. 4231 would be my choice.. Yes, maybe lacking natural wingers.. As poor as he has been, I would be tempted to play Edun as a winger, and try and use his pace.
                   Istad
    Ramsey Reg Jones Gilesphey
           Dobson Coventry
                     Camara
    May                          Tayo
                    Kanu (If chucks can't start)

    Let's face it May has been in effective when he has played up top, his best form and ours is when he is deeper. 

    Chucks can never start 

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  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,276
    One for all you formation experts who haven't apparently given any consideration to how Lincoln might line up- maybe it's perfectly reasonable to ignore how the opposition line up, I really don't know. I do hope however that Jones and Hart and/ or any scouts we have in the north have given some insights into how Lincoln might play ahead of this game. Couple of familiar names here too;


  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,300
    swords_alive said:
    One for all you formation experts who haven't apparently given any consideration to how Lincoln might line up- maybe it's perfectly reasonable to ignore how the opposition line up, I really don't know. I do hope however that Jones and Hart and/ or any scouts we have in the north have given some insights into how Lincoln might play ahead of this game. Couple of familiar names here too;


    They actually play a 3-5-2 with Sorensen and Hackett-Fairchild as the wing backs. Sorensen was very good in the home game against us 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited February 2024
    Didn’t think McGrandles was allowed to play under terms of his loan.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,707
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Southbank said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    We've somehow ended up on the position where no formation is a natural fit for us:

    3-5-2 - weak at wing back
    4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 no wingers (or at least only a badly out of form Tyreece Campbell)
    Diamond - no natural No.10

    What a mess
    Camara can play 10, but has to be a lot fitter than he is now to play more than 30m.
    To me, Camara looks like a player who needs to be coming from deeper. His big strength is he can drive forward on the ball and get us up the pitch. To do that he needs to be picking up the ball in our half or around the halfway line. 

    king addick said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    We've somehow ended up on the position where no formation is a natural fit for us:

    3-5-2 - weak at wing back
    4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 no wingers (or at least only a badly out of form Tyreece Campbell)
    Diamond - no natural No.10

    What a mess
    May could play as a 10 with Kanu and Ladapo up top. 
    This was effective in a 4231 where your 10 needs to be more of a second striker. In a diamond the 10 has far more midfield type duties. May will work hard enough, but it wouldn't be natural for him, and it would take him further away from the goalscoring positions we desperately need to start getting him into again.

    Watson or Fiorini are probably two players closest to being a natural 10 in diamond. The diamond with Watson off May and Kanu/Ladapo is probably our best option to start tomorrow, but I don't know... I don't a have a lot of faith in anything working after Saturday. The fight has just gone out of too many of them at the moment and until Jones manages to reinstill some of that in a few of them, the formation won't make that much difference,..
    My thinking is that May is a willing runner behind when the balls working it's way up the pitch. He will also drop and bring players allowing the other 2 to create there own space/runs. There is a benefit. Don't get me wrong I want him as a striker but feel right now, it was add another goalscoring threat with him and 2 strikers playing.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,282
    edited February 2024
    Lincoln have nothing to play for. We have some players returning from injury. A half decent crowd to cheer them on.  2-0 Charlton; a win and clean sheet to set us up for the 3 very difficult looking matches ahead.  This really does feel "must win".

    I really don't know much about formations since 442 became a thing of the past but maybe something like...

                            Isted
    Ramsey Ness Jones Thomas Small
                 Dobson Coventry
                        Camara
                      May  Kanu 

    Chuks and Taylor on the bench; maybe Fiorini too?  Hector back soon.  The squad when fit looks decent. How long can it stay that way though.

    Ed. Just realised my starting 11 would have 3 of the 9 signed in Jan and likely no surprise that 2 of those I have never seen play so guessing as to their abilities!

  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Don't think we'll lose by more than 2, so I guess that puts me in the happy clappy brigade under CL guidelines.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,594
    I don’t get this ‘Lincoln have nothing to play for’ stuff. Surely that can be said of their recent games where they haven’t lost in five. They have picked up more points in five games than we have in about five months !!
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    I think we've reached the point where we couldn't do any worse than say the immortal words. 

    Just spread out.
  • mattwils
    mattwils Posts: 212
    I like your line up and I think we’ll produce a performance on the night and win 2:1
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,820
    RedChaser said:
    Didn’t think McGrandles was allowed to play under terms of his loan.
    Shame 

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