Lyle Taylor - August 2025 signed for Chelmsford City (p295)

swords_alive said:

Anytime goal from Lyle for Cambridge v Cheltenham, 3/1 on willhill right now. 20/1 for 2 or more. Have piled on. Chance for the big man to pay us back a little with odds like that. His hunger for goals has returned. Playing alongside Bonne too- roughly same prices. Both good value.  That is a dream front line, especially in this division. 

swords_alive said:

Ah poo

RaplhMilne said:

Athletico Charlton said:

If you know a man that can do a job to get you out of a fix, no, worse than that, a really difficult situation then I would consider them very seriously and try to not let emotion cloud your judgement.

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The issue with the above KingKinsella, is that is what Scott did when appointing Apples manager.  Whatever his merits, and he has had success at our level, he was never the right fit for us as the fans had already made up their mind so he was always going to come unstuck at the first sticky patch.

Lyle Taylor could go on to score 15 goals for Cambridge before the end of the season and he still would not have been the right fit as , like it or not, the crowd would have hated him from the very start.

At a time when our squad needed to come together and have a siege mentality and the fans need to be part of that you don't bring in Lyle Taylor imo.

They would have hated him until after the third goal, then attitudes would change. An if he scored 15 most would forgive, if not forget. 

billysboots said:

golfaddick said:

RaplhMilne said:

Athletico Charlton said:

If you know a man that can do a job to get you out of a fix, no, worse than that, a really difficult situation then I would consider them very seriously and try to not let emotion cloud your judgement.

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The issue with the above KingKinsella, is that is what Scott did when appointing Apples manager.  Whatever his merits, and he has had success at our level, he was never the right fit for us as the fans had already made up their mind so he was always going to come unstuck at the first sticky patch.

Lyle Taylor could go on to score 15 goals for Cambridge before the end of the season and he still would not have been the right fit as , like it or not, the crowd would have hated him from the very start.

At a time when our squad needed to come together and have a siege mentality and the fans need to be part of that you don't bring in Lyle Taylor imo.

They would have hated him until after the third goal, then attitudes would change. An if he scored 15 most would forgive, if not forget. 

I wouldn't.

There is something could integrity. Lyle Taylor doesn't have it. I'd rather get relegated without him than have signed him & stayed up. 

We might well still be in the Championship if he had seen out his contract in 2020. Not even saying he had to play on through July, just play until the end of June, like 99.99% of his fellow professionals did. 

Didn’t Solly refuse as well 2 out of 24 isn’t 0.01% ? 

swords_alive said:

Portsmouth away tomorrow night; 40/1 to score 2 or more; 70/1 to get the winner in a 1-0 away win. Worth a few pennies at these odds and before the bookies get wise.

swords_alive said:

clb74 said:

swords_alive said:

Portsmouth away tomorrow night; 40/1 to score 2 or more; 70/1 to get the winner in a 1-0 away win. Worth a few pennies at these odds and before the bookies get wise.

Even better. Slightly more realistic though too tbh! My odds were taken from William hill. Tight bstards

KingKinsella said:

Taylor- assist at the w/e -one of those crosses that just beg to be put in.Also nice backheel in build up for 1st goal

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

KingKinsella said:

Taylor- assist at the w/e -one of those crosses that just beg to be put in.Also nice backheel in build up for 1st goal

Bro, you are obsessed with this guy. Do you fancy him or something?

Uboat said:

KingKinsella said:

TelMc32 said:

KingKinsella said:

iaitch said:

KingKinsella said:

Ha ! Ha! Scores one  makes one and sets up a sitter which is missed by a colleague. Just saying. We could have had him for free. He would have taught these youngsters thing about holding the ball up.About being a striker.
Just saying. We'll see by the end of the season. When he scores the winner against us ( and sends us down? I hope we're clear by then)
JUST SAYING.

Do you mean a forward or someone who withdraws their labour? 

He has a particular set of skills, which are still lacking in our current squad. Particularly hold up play , but also every other aspect of striker's role, mainly strikers instinct, physicality, contribution to defensive duties, and one question mark is whether mobility/speed would have deteriorated in his long lay-off.. At the time, pre Xmas it wasn't clear if the current owners had /were prepared to spend money . This has changed in the last 2 weeks. He was available  on a free so would have improved our squad in skills we are lacking. It's all changed now  we may well buy a striker and Taylor is under contract at Cambridge. So a missed opportunity, but the owners are willing to burn some money (their money). I hope it works out well.

Sticks in the throat a little that someone who invokes the name of one of our greatest ever captains, a player who drove us on during some of our most successful years, has such a love-in for a toe rag who downed tools and couldn’t be arsed to put on a shirt when he was needed most 🤷🏻‍♂️

Waited to respond to this.
 Kinsella is as far I'm concerned THE greatest captain that I saw* . What you say about his fighting spirit is spot on. You omitted  his level of skill, which was considerable, including a block tackle that would stop a JCB, and an accurate and powerful shot too rarely seen as a DM. Skill wise I would rate Scott Parker better, but as a package Kinsella gave more to the cause imo, if I remember correctly in the first P~L season only Roy Keane had  better stats. He always put heart and soul into a performance for CAFC. . He played for Ireland with similar commitment and success, and did a great job when Keane walked out.

Lyle Taylor is not on the same page. But neither are we. We are in a  poor situation.In L1. If you know a man that can do a job to get you out of a fix, no, worse than that, a really difficult situation then I would consider them very seriously and try to not let emotion cloud your judgement. At L1 level he has a particular set of skills including hold up play and also ability to defend as well as all the other goal scoring traits that would make him a candidate. Wycombe were unlucky and probably just paid him whilst he was getting up to speed.
Its  "early days" but he has scored 3 for Cambridge, but as I say "lets see at the end of the season".
The moment has passed and he has signed for Cambridge. But, at the time he was available he was in a weak negotiating position, and there was a lot in the CAFC club media about reducing losses from £8m/pa to £1-2m /pa. So LT was a bargain which fitted the budget. He had the skills, there were questions about his mobility and "whether " he still had "the edge/reactions" of a striker.  

By the way I have never said I liked him. I understand that he didn't play in those final games as he could make a lot of money on his next contract.That was a rational decision for him. Bowyer accepted this (grudgingly/reluctantly). It's all business, and making money.
 I also think that the injuries over the Xmas period 10 games with 14 senior pros out had more to do with our relegation than 3 games (which he was contracted to play) and a few more (extended season due to Covid -players were not contracted to play but some volunteered).

 Forget  your notions of "playing for the shirt"- not like Kinsella who would have laid down in front of that JCB.

LT was an opportunity to get a player with L1 skills we needed. Put emotion aside.

* I've supported CAFC since '66. You may have seen better captains in that time, there are gaps when I moved from the area, had young kids and couldn't afford the money and /or the time  to attend. Only saying he's the best I remember from my attendances at the Valley.

Perfectly fair and reasonable argument. However, Taylor is the only Charlton player I can think of (and definitely the only one still playing) for whom all reason goes out of the window. I will never never forgive him and I’m just not accepting the ‘who can blame him’, ‘good luck to him’, ‘we’d all have done the same’ comments. 

golfaddick said:

Uboat said:

KingKinsella said:

TelMc32 said:

KingKinsella said:

iaitch said:

KingKinsella said:

Ha ! Ha! Scores one  makes one and sets up a sitter which is missed by a colleague. Just saying. We could have had him for free. He would have taught these youngsters thing about holding the ball up.About being a striker.
Just saying. We'll see by the end of the season. When he scores the winner against us ( and sends us down? I hope we're clear by then)
JUST SAYING.

Do you mean a forward or someone who withdraws their labour? 

He has a particular set of skills, which are still lacking in our current squad. Particularly hold up play , but also every other aspect of striker's role, mainly strikers instinct, physicality, contribution to defensive duties, and one question mark is whether mobility/speed would have deteriorated in his long lay-off.. At the time, pre Xmas it wasn't clear if the current owners had /were prepared to spend money . This has changed in the last 2 weeks. He was available  on a free so would have improved our squad in skills we are lacking. It's all changed now  we may well buy a striker and Taylor is under contract at Cambridge. So a missed opportunity, but the owners are willing to burn some money (their money). I hope it works out well.

Sticks in the throat a little that someone who invokes the name of one of our greatest ever captains, a player who drove us on during some of our most successful years, has such a love-in for a toe rag who downed tools and couldn’t be arsed to put on a shirt when he was needed most 🤷🏻‍♂️

Waited to respond to this.
 Kinsella is as far I'm concerned THE greatest captain that I saw* . What you say about his fighting spirit is spot on. You omitted  his level of skill, which was considerable, including a block tackle that would stop a JCB, and an accurate and powerful shot too rarely seen as a DM. Skill wise I would rate Scott Parker better, but as a package Kinsella gave more to the cause imo, if I remember correctly in the first P~L season only Roy Keane had  better stats. He always put heart and soul into a performance for CAFC. . He played for Ireland with similar commitment and success, and did a great job when Keane walked out.

Lyle Taylor is not on the same page. But neither are we. We are in a  poor situation.In L1. If you know a man that can do a job to get you out of a fix, no, worse than that, a really difficult situation then I would consider them very seriously and try to not let emotion cloud your judgement. At L1 level he has a particular set of skills including hold up play and also ability to defend as well as all the other goal scoring traits that would make him a candidate. Wycombe were unlucky and probably just paid him whilst he was getting up to speed.
Its  "early days" but he has scored 3 for Cambridge, but as I say "lets see at the end of the season".
The moment has passed and he has signed for Cambridge. But, at the time he was available he was in a weak negotiating position, and there was a lot in the CAFC club media about reducing losses from £8m/pa to £1-2m /pa. So LT was a bargain which fitted the budget. He had the skills, there were questions about his mobility and "whether " he still had "the edge/reactions" of a striker.  

By the way I have never said I liked him. I understand that he didn't play in those final games as he could make a lot of money on his next contract.That was a rational decision for him. Bowyer accepted this (grudgingly/reluctantly). It's all business, and making money.
 I also think that the injuries over the Xmas period 10 games with 14 senior pros out had more to do with our relegation than 3 games (which he was contracted to play) and a few more (extended season due to Covid -players were not contracted to play but some volunteered).

 Forget  your notions of "playing for the shirt"- not like Kinsella who would have laid down in front of that JCB.

LT was an opportunity to get a player with L1 skills we needed. Put emotion aside.

* I've supported CAFC since '66. You may have seen better captains in that time, there are gaps when I moved from the area, had young kids and couldn't afford the money and /or the time  to attend. Only saying he's the best I remember from my attendances at the Valley.

Perfectly fair and reasonable argument. However, Taylor is the only Charlton player I can think of (and definitely the only one still playing) for whom all reason goes out of the window. I will never never forgive him and I’m just not accepting the ‘who can blame him’, ‘good luck to him’, ‘we’d all have done the same’ comments. 

This.

It's like dating an ex-girlfriend who cheated on you just because you need a shag. Plenty of others out there who will treat you better.