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PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

PeterGage said:

PeterGage said:

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

The book I mentioned above is a good starting point and is still available to buy. It details all the conflicts between the  American government forces and the indiginous peoples. Reading that may direct you into specific detailed events that you can focus on.

Other books that I would recommend are: 1. Lakota Noon, which details the Battle of the Little Big Horn from an Indian perspective (all of Custer's group were wiped out). 2. Crazy Horse, author Mari Sandoz.

Films: 1. Son of the Morning Star, which follows the parallel lives of Crazy Horse and Custer, leading up to the battle. 2. An old film (1970), Soldier Blue, which in the end sequence shows the barbaric slaughter of Black Kettles Cheyenne in 1864 at Sand Creek.

That's enough to be getting on with! Enjoy.

Soldier Blue … that’s a blast from the past. Quite violent so I recall.  

PeterGage said:

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

Like Peter i have an interest in American history but i would suggest starting with The Barbarous years, the peopling of British north America. A conflict of civilizations 1600 to 1675 by Bernard Bailyn.
Then work your way to 1900. 

Baldybonce said:

PeterGage said:

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

Like Peter i have an interest in American history but i would suggest starting with The Barbarous years, the peopling of British north America. A conflict of civilizations 1600 to 1675 by Bernard Bailyn.
Then work your way to 1900. 

That's a good starting point. My presentation (lasting about 2hrs) starts with the ice age and the migration of people across the Baring Straight (although I recognise that this "beginning" has it's detractors). I then go onto the first everlasting colonisation of the Americas by Christopher Colombus following 1492; then the further colonisation by Brits (13 separate colonies), the French and the Dutch. Thereafter I speak about the Plains Indians, their culture and way of life; then the changes to their lifestyle from 1800 following the Louisianna Purchase, Lewis and Clarke expedition, Gold strikes, Manifest Destiny, the pioneers, the slaughter of the buffalo.

Thereafter the specific major conflicts with the government armies: 1854 Gratten Massacre, 1862 Minnisota wars, 1864 Sand Creek, 1868 Washita, 1866-1868, Red Cloud's War, 1876 Custer, 1890 Wounded Knee. 

Finally, the Indians today and my personal experiences at places such as Pine Ridge Rez, where the average male life expectancy is just 48.

PeterGage said:

Baldybonce said:

PeterGage said:

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

Like Peter i have an interest in American history but i would suggest starting with The Barbarous years, the peopling of British north America. A conflict of civilizations 1600 to 1675 by Bernard Bailyn.
Then work your way to 1900. 

That's a good starting point. My presentation (lasting about 2hrs) starts with the ice age and the migration of people across the Baring Straight (although I recognise that this "beginning" has it's detractors). I then go onto the first everlasting colonisation of the Americas by Christopher Colombus following 1492; then the further colonisation by Brits (13 separate colonies), the French and the Dutch. Thereafter I speak about the Plains Indians, their culture and way of life; then the changes to their lifestyle from 1800 following the Louisianna Purchase, Lewis and Clarke expedition, Gold strikes, Manifest Destiny, the pioneers, the slaughter of the buffalo.

Thereafter the specific major conflicts with the government armies: 1854 Gratten Massacre, 1862 Minnisota wars, 1864 Sand Creek, 1868 Washita, 1866-1868, Red Cloud's War, 1876 Custer, 1890 Wounded Knee. 

Finally, the Indians today and my personal experiences at places such as Pine Ridge Rez, where the average male life expectancy is just 48.

I am impressed PeterGage.

I went to NY State and Canada last summer. Before going I listened to "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee" on Audible and to a couple of other books on First Nations/Native Americans. While there I visited one reservation on the St Lawrence River in Canada, and another near Quebec. That was ok, but probably not representative of the reservations in the USA.

I have to admit that I cannot handle the horrors and betrayals that Native Americans suffered at the hands of Europeans, so I've stopped reading about it for my own mental health. But I did force myself to see "Killers of the Flower Moon" at the cinema.

I applaud you. You are telling a story that's largely ignored, but which describes the slaughter of millions of people.

Arthur_Trudgill said:

PeterGage said:

Baldybonce said:

PeterGage said:

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

Like Peter i have an interest in American history but i would suggest starting with The Barbarous years, the peopling of British north America. A conflict of civilizations 1600 to 1675 by Bernard Bailyn.
Then work your way to 1900. 

That's a good starting point. My presentation (lasting about 2hrs) starts with the ice age and the migration of people across the Baring Straight (although I recognise that this "beginning" has it's detractors). I then go onto the first everlasting colonisation of the Americas by Christopher Colombus following 1492; then the further colonisation by Brits (13 separate colonies), the French and the Dutch. Thereafter I speak about the Plains Indians, their culture and way of life; then the changes to their lifestyle from 1800 following the Louisianna Purchase, Lewis and Clarke expedition, Gold strikes, Manifest Destiny, the pioneers, the slaughter of the buffalo.

Thereafter the specific major conflicts with the government armies: 1854 Gratten Massacre, 1862 Minnisota wars, 1864 Sand Creek, 1868 Washita, 1866-1868, Red Cloud's War, 1876 Custer, 1890 Wounded Knee. 

Finally, the Indians today and my personal experiences at places such as Pine Ridge Rez, where the average male life expectancy is just 48.

I am impressed PeterGage.

I went to NY State and Canada last summer. Before going I listened to "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee" on Audible and to a couple of other books on First Nations/Native Americans. While there I visited one reservation on the St Lawrence River in Canada, and another near Quebec. That was ok, but probably not representative of the reservations in the USA.

I have to admit that I cannot handle the horrors and betrayals that Native Americans suffered at the hands of Europeans, so I've stopped reading about it for my own mental health. But I did force myself to see "Killers of the Flower Moon" at the cinema.

I applaud you. You are telling a story that's largely ignored, but which describes the slaughter of millions of people.

Good film. The Osage were based in Kansas prior to being forcibly moved to the "Indian Nations", now known as the state of Oklahoma, as were a number of unrelated tribes such as the Cherokees, chochtaw and others. Indian Nations was chosen primarily because the land was not suitable for pioneering farmers.

Gribbo said:

PeterGage said:

Baldybonce said:

PeterGage said:

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

LonelyNorthernAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Stig said:

PeterGage said:

Studying Native American History for many years. I have also been donating money each month for many years to Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota, ancestral home of the Oglala Lakota (part of the Sioux tribe.

Prior to Covid, I was also undertaking presentations on the subject at small clubs such as WI and collecting money for the cause. I have been lucky to have visited the reservation twice and took childrens clothes with me the second time. Also been to battle fields such as Custers Last Stand and others. 

To demonstrate how poor the reservation is, the average life expectancy of a male on the rez is just 48!

That's an interesting one, it seems a bit unusual. I think lots of people have an interest in history, but probably more local. Do you have some particular link, or was it just something that appealed to you?

I read a book when I was about 17 (I am now 77) titled "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (Dee Brown). The book details the colonisation of Indian lands and the subsequent  negative impact upon the indiginous people. The book really hit a chord within me.

Is there any material you would suggest now to read or watch on the subject? My dad is also fairly interested in this topic (as am I)

Like Peter i have an interest in American history but i would suggest starting with The Barbarous years, the peopling of British north America. A conflict of civilizations 1600 to 1675 by Bernard Bailyn.
Then work your way to 1900. 

That's a good starting point. My presentation (lasting about 2hrs) starts with the ice age and the migration of people across the Baring Straight (although I recognise that this "beginning" has it's detractors). I then go onto the first everlasting colonisation of the Americas by Christopher Colombus following 1492; then the further colonisation by Brits (13 separate colonies), the French and the Dutch. Thereafter I speak about the Plains Indians, their culture and way of life; then the changes to their lifestyle from 1800 following the Louisianna Purchase, Lewis and Clarke expedition, Gold strikes, Manifest Destiny, the pioneers, the slaughter of the buffalo.

Thereafter the specific major conflicts with the government armies: 1854 Gratten Massacre, 1862 Minnisota wars, 1864 Sand Creek, 1868 Washita, 1866-1868, Red Cloud's War, 1876 Custer, 1890 Wounded Knee. 

Finally, the Indians today and my personal experiences at places such as Pine Ridge Rez, where the average male life expectancy is just 48.

This is a good channel mate. Sounds like you could probably write some of it, but I've watched a few of these while there's been some old toot on mainstream TV and found em interesting. -

https://youtube.com/@FallofCivilizations?si=fpHMe18s-NViMf8o

Thank you. I am not aware of this Youtube post. I shall have a look

Keeping the link below plus other parts of the site updated on a game by game basis and daily posts relating to it and the club on social media. 

Blackheathen said:

cashncarry said:

Does wanking count?

How many a day?

Hopefully just himself.

cashncarry said:

Does wanking count?

More people do that than trainspotting, so yes.

DaveMehmet said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

Carter said:

DaveMehmet said:

Carter said:

I dont say this to make light of anyone hobby, its funny how things frowned upon not that long ago get remanded as language evolves. 

Occasionally me and some pals would go swimming in a quarry, pretty stupid as those things are deep but it was just swimming or skinny dipping of booze was involved, wild swimming makes me instantly picture middle class women in lakes and rivers that aren't full of human excrement. 

And I really don't mean to sound like I'm taking the piss, whats now classed as wild swimming is one of my favourite things to do, I class lido swimming as wild swimming too, less eels

I wouldn't mind trying it. I've had to be a bit careful with the amount I do in the gym recently due to issues with my foot. Have tried replacing the odd session with a swim but find it so f*****g boring.

Yeah, swimming is boring. I find its quite a good activity to do when you have shit in your head that needs you to concentrate on and work through, no music, no podcasts, no TV. 

That's one of the main reasons I ride a bike.  There's nothing better for clearing your head than going out for hours just turning the pedals over. I do a lot of de-stressing from work on the bike, and often find I solve problems in my head while I'm riding.

I should get out on the bike more, doesn’t help that I’m nervous on the road which isn’t helped by the amount of bellend drivers about. 

Even though I usually go to the gym 3 times a week, I can’t call it a hobby as I don’t actually like it. Feel good after going but I only really go because I have to. If I didn’t I’d be a fat bastard instead of just being a bit overweight!

Yeah, it's a common reason many people don't ride as much as they'd like, or try it a few times, enjoy it and then have a horrendous close pass and never do it again. 

Shouldn't really encourage people being bullied off the road, but might be worth looking at a gravel bike? There isn't a lot of proper gravel in the UK, but there's plenty of paths, and light off road stuff that keeps you away from traffic. 

DOUCHER said:

Snooker, bowls, playing football, tennis and have started golf again plus drinking alcohol - can't wait to retire so i can put more hours in and re take up my lockdown hobbies of painting and walking in the countryside 

I don't think it's what you meant, but I read this as highlighted. 

Leroy Ambrose said:

DaveMehmet said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

Carter said:

DaveMehmet said:

Carter said:

I dont say this to make light of anyone hobby, its funny how things frowned upon not that long ago get remanded as language evolves. 

Occasionally me and some pals would go swimming in a quarry, pretty stupid as those things are deep but it was just swimming or skinny dipping of booze was involved, wild swimming makes me instantly picture middle class women in lakes and rivers that aren't full of human excrement. 

And I really don't mean to sound like I'm taking the piss, whats now classed as wild swimming is one of my favourite things to do, I class lido swimming as wild swimming too, less eels

I wouldn't mind trying it. I've had to be a bit careful with the amount I do in the gym recently due to issues with my foot. Have tried replacing the odd session with a swim but find it so f*****g boring.

Yeah, swimming is boring. I find its quite a good activity to do when you have shit in your head that needs you to concentrate on and work through, no music, no podcasts, no TV. 

That's one of the main reasons I ride a bike.  There's nothing better for clearing your head than going out for hours just turning the pedals over. I do a lot of de-stressing from work on the bike, and often find I solve problems in my head while I'm riding.

I should get out on the bike more, doesn’t help that I’m nervous on the road which isn’t helped by the amount of bellend drivers about. 

Even though I usually go to the gym 3 times a week, I can’t call it a hobby as I don’t actually like it. Feel good after going but I only really go because I have to. If I didn’t I’d be a fat bastard instead of just being a bit overweight!

Yeah, it's a common reason many people don't ride as much as they'd like, or try it a few times, enjoy it and then have a horrendous close pass and never do it again. 

Shouldn't really encourage people being bullied off the road, but might be worth looking at a gravel bike? There isn't a lot of proper gravel in the UK, but there's plenty of paths, and light off road stuff that keeps you away from traffic. 

Thats exactly the reason I dont cycle on the road anymore, too many ignorant slags, I see enough of people pratting about with mobile phones when I'm driving and first hand witnessed accidents from mobile phone usage. And thats before people who are just ignorant drivers. Besides that, I have to apply cow udder cream to my arse each time I use the bike after a long period. The most fun I had was going through woods, fields, tracks on my old mountain bike even at the expense of it being a bastard to ride on normal surfaces and go down the pub on.