The sacking of SCP
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Sorry, but I have to totally disagree with the opening statement of the thread.
RD was interfering with the team from the off, pushing players on to CP that were not up to standard and not fulfilling the positions that CP had stated were weakness's.
Basically it was obvious RD was not backing the manager in fact the complete opposite, because he sold his best players.
Actions speak louder than words. To believe what RD & KM were telling you all when their actions were contradicting it shows a level of naivety.
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Hovi's Biscuit said:
Exactly. His successor at Huddersfield, Pound Shop Klopp, was much hyped but ultimately hasn't exactly set the world on fire with the same squad.Gillis said:
Powell kept Huddersfield up in his first season in charge. This season, Huddersfield were 18th in the table when they sacked him in November. They finished 19th. No one can claim Powell was a runaway success at Huddersfield, but with a small budget he achieved what could reasonably be expected.WasCharleyOne said:Shoot me down in flames ladies and gents but I would prefer a manager that's had a little more success than Chris Powell. We had a great L1 promotion season, 9th place in the Championship the year after and then it went pear-shaped. You may talk about the quality of the squad but then he went to Huddersfield where he certainly didn't pull up trees.
I wouldn't have said Rotherham's squad was better than ours but Warnock did a fantastic job, so it's not necessarily about the squad, more what you can get out of it.
Love the man for who he is and what he put into our club but I don't think he's the managerial godsend some people on here do. I would be happy to be proved wrong.
...................................Hovi's Biscuit said:
Exactly. His successor at Huddersfield, Pound Shop Klopp, was much hyped but ultimately hasn't exactly set the world on fire with the same squad.Gillis said:
Powell kept Huddersfield up in his first season in charge. This season, Huddersfield were 18th in the table when they sacked him in November. They finished 19th. No one can claim Powell was a runaway success at Huddersfield, but with a small budget he achieved what could reasonably be expected.WasCharleyOne said:Shoot me down in flames ladies and gents but I would prefer a manager that's had a little more success than Chris Powell. We had a great L1 promotion season, 9th place in the Championship the year after and then it went pear-shaped. You may talk about the quality of the squad but then he went to Huddersfield where he certainly didn't pull up trees.
I wouldn't have said Rotherham's squad was better than ours but Warnock did a fantastic job, so it's not necessarily about the squad, more what you can get out of it.
Love the man for who he is and what he put into our club but I don't think he's the managerial godsend some people on here do. I would be happy to be proved wrong.
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@LeedsbasedTownfan where we were a year ago - http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2015-2016/table/2015-08-151
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They took the absolute piss out of Powell. Not her. Just RD.StrikerFirmani said:Sorry, but I have to totally disagree with the opening statement of the thread.
RD was interfering with the team from the off, pushing players on to CP that were not up to standard and not fulfilling the positions that CP had stated were weakness's.
Basically it was obvious RD was not backing the manager in fact the complete opposite, because he sold his best players.
Actions speak louder than words. To believe what RD & KM were telling you all when their actions were contradicting it shows a level of naivety.
He was a complete c*nt to him. The end.8 -
Reminds me of my uncle who always thought it was funny to shout "Come on you whites" when watching test cricket. Couldn't understand why he got a few funny looks when we were playing the west indies.Brendan_O_Connell said:Siv_in_Norfolk said:Chrissy Powell's Red and white Army
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To be fair to Wagner, he has had the chance to add to his squad since I posted that three months ago.LeedsbasedTownfan said:Hovi's Biscuit said:
Exactly. His successor at Huddersfield, Pound Shop Klopp, was much hyped but ultimately hasn't exactly set the world on fire with the same squad.Gillis said:
Powell kept Huddersfield up in his first season in charge. This season, Huddersfield were 18th in the table when they sacked him in November. They finished 19th. No one can claim Powell was a runaway success at Huddersfield, but with a small budget he achieved what could reasonably be expected.WasCharleyOne said:Shoot me down in flames ladies and gents but I would prefer a manager that's had a little more success than Chris Powell. We had a great L1 promotion season, 9th place in the Championship the year after and then it went pear-shaped. You may talk about the quality of the squad but then he went to Huddersfield where he certainly didn't pull up trees.
I wouldn't have said Rotherham's squad was better than ours but Warnock did a fantastic job, so it's not necessarily about the squad, more what you can get out of it.
Love the man for who he is and what he put into our club but I don't think he's the managerial godsend some people on here do. I would be happy to be proved wrong.
...................................Hovi's Biscuit said:
Exactly. His successor at Huddersfield, Pound Shop Klopp, was much hyped but ultimately hasn't exactly set the world on fire with the same squad.Gillis said:
Powell kept Huddersfield up in his first season in charge. This season, Huddersfield were 18th in the table when they sacked him in November. They finished 19th. No one can claim Powell was a runaway success at Huddersfield, but with a small budget he achieved what could reasonably be expected.WasCharleyOne said:Shoot me down in flames ladies and gents but I would prefer a manager that's had a little more success than Chris Powell. We had a great L1 promotion season, 9th place in the Championship the year after and then it went pear-shaped. You may talk about the quality of the squad but then he went to Huddersfield where he certainly didn't pull up trees.
I wouldn't have said Rotherham's squad was better than ours but Warnock did a fantastic job, so it's not necessarily about the squad, more what you can get out of it.
Love the man for who he is and what he put into our club but I don't think he's the managerial godsend some people on here do. I would be happy to be proved wrong.
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I won't deny that in my opinion Powell had some drawbacks as a manager, but he was the perfect fit for this club and still learning. It was the most stupid decision imaginable that the owner took to get rid of him, but that was because he had a plan when he bought the club and it wasn't based on any analysis on what Powell brought to the club and how it could be used. He wasn't willing to try to understand the club, he just wanted to run it to his template. He undermined Powell from the off, where a bit of backing could have seen us in an FA cup semi final at Wembley and safety with a springboard to success. Duchatelet was not willing to develop a plan around what he learned about the club. For such a successful businessman that seems strange - but Trump is a successful businessman so maybe we shouldn't expect them not to be fools. IMO, I think the season that Duchatelet bought us, Powell could have taken us up with a modest push and backing. He had to cope with the rug being pulled by Kevin Cash (another fool as he couldn't understand the opportunity) and the club being run by owners without a pot to pee in, but Duchatelet could have been very successful if he understood what he had bought rather than viewing it as an opportunity to test a theory!8
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I'm not saying people should like Jiminez, but if we had his football knowledge and Roland's resources, we would IMO be in the Premier League now.6
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When he took over, RD inherited a squad that was perhaps 2/3 players short of being good enough to challenge for promotion. An investment of around 5 million would probably have been enough to secure untold millions in the Premier League. Instead he took the opposite route, selling our best player and flooding the club with sub standard players from his network. Far from being an astute businessman, the bloke is a clown.24
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To be fair, Kevin Cash is a total clown too! He invested in a football club but didn't have the knowledge of football to see the opportunity that presented itself to him!1
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I think that is a good post if a bit unfair on clowns...queensland_addick said:When he took over, RD inherited a squad that was perhaps 2/3 players short of being good enough to challenge for promotion. An investment of around 5 million would probably have been enough to secure untold millions in the Premier League. Instead he took the opposite route, selling our best player and flooding the club with sub standard players from his network. Far from being an astute businessman, the bloke is a clown.
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I heard jiminez was funnelling some of the money cash gave him for the club to tone's other businesses cash had no stake in. Quite rightly he then pulled the plug on the cash machine and here we areMuttleyCAFC said:To be fair, Kevin Cash is a total clown too! He invested in a football club but didn't have the knowledge of football to see the opportunity that presented itself to him!
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I heard something very similar from someone employed by the club at the timekentaddick said:
I heard jiminez was funnelling some of the money cash gave him for the club to tone's other businesses cash had no stake in. Quite rightly he then pulled the plug on the cash machine and here we areMuttleyCAFC said:To be fair, Kevin Cash is a total clown too! He invested in a football club but didn't have the knowledge of football to see the opportunity that presented itself to him!
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Well if that is true I'll take it all back.Big in Brasov said:
I heard something very similar from someone employed by the club at the timekentaddick said:
I heard jiminez was funnelling some of the money cash gave him for the club to tone's other businesses cash had no stake in. Quite rightly he then pulled the plug on the cash machine and here we areMuttleyCAFC said:To be fair, Kevin Cash is a total clown too! He invested in a football club but didn't have the knowledge of football to see the opportunity that presented itself to him!
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Off on a tangent but if Trump had invested his inheritance in an unmanaged S&P New York Stock Exchange fund and spent the last 30 years doing nothing he would be worth twice as much as he is now. Not sure that is particularly successful despite his wealth.MuttleyCAFC said:I won't deny that in my opinion Powell had some drawbacks as a manager, but he was the perfect fit for this club and still learning. It was the most stupid decision imaginable that the owner took to get rid of him, but that was because he had a plan when he bought the club and it wasn't based on any analysis on what Powell brought to the club and how it could be used. He wasn't willing to try to understand the club, he just wanted to run it to his template. He undermined Powell from the off, where a bit of backing could have seen us in an FA cup semi final at Wembley and safety with a springboard to success. Duchatelet was not willing to develop a plan around what he learned about the club. For such a successful businessman that seems strange - but Trump is a successful businessman so maybe we shouldn't expect them not to be fools. IMO, I think the season that Duchatelet bought us, Powell could have taken us up with a modest push and backing. He had to cope with the rug being pulled by Kevin Cash (another fool as he couldn't understand the opportunity) and the club being run by owners without a pot to pee in, but Duchatelet could have been very successful if he understood what he had bought rather than viewing it as an opportunity to test a theory!
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Good point
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A post that makes the most amount of sense whatever way you look at it.queensland_addick said:When he took over, RD inherited a squad that was perhaps 2/3 players short of being good enough to challenge for promotion. An investment of around 5 million would probably have been enough to secure untold millions in the Premier League. Instead he took the opposite route, selling our best player and flooding the club with sub standard players from his network. Far from being an astute businessman, the bloke is a clown.
Simple as this.0 -
10 years ago today! Would love for him to be back involved at the club in some way.6
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No thanks and Alex Dyer after he left Charlton confirmed that RD did not influence the team selection17
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Mate, you pipe up with some proper shit sometimes. If you think Powell and Dyer were bad for us, then you've got a peanut brain.RonnieMoore said:No thanks and Alex Dyer after he left Charlton confirmed that RD did not influence the team selection
We went up with record points under Powell.16 -
To be honest, if you get sucked into a troll post that obvious at a certain point it's your own fault7
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"RD did not influence the team selection"...................
So selling players against the managers will and restocking the squad with inferior players, clearly not up to Championship football isn't influencing the team selection?
Jesus fucking wept.8 -
There was also an even more blunt exampletangoflash said:"RD did not influence the team selection"...................
So selling players against the managers will and restocking the squad with inferior players, clearly not up to Championship football isn't influencing the team selection?
Jesus fucking wept.
of a published email from him to Powell the day before the wigan game talking about picking thuram and Nego …2 -
There was also an even more blunt exampletangoflash said:"RD did not influence the team selection"...................
So selling players against the managers will and restocking the squad with inferior players, clearly not up to Championship football isn't influencing the team selection?
Jesus fucking wept.
of a published email from him to Powell the day before the wigan game talking about picking thuram and Nego …0 -
You can day that again!1
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Still do.RedChaser said:
Feel the love.6 -
Not a serious posterRonnieMoore said:No thanks and Alex Dyer after he left Charlton confirmed that RD did not influence the team selection
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You just have.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Not a serious posterRonnieMoore said:No thanks and Alex Dyer after he left Charlton confirmed that RD did not influence the team selection
Best not to engage
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