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How Likely Are You To Take The Covid Vaccine?
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Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.ME14addick said:.
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Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?Stig said:
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.ME14addick said:4 -
I’m 70 still working, socially active but classed as immune vulnerable so have my 8th booster this Saturday. Had Covid once and caused a nasty chest infection so will keep getting the boosters…other than 24hour sore arm that’s it…and at 70 I don’t feel ill and tired most of the time despite having had cancer 3 times!ME14addick said:
Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?Stig said:
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.ME14addick said:5 -
I'm not theorising, but I do have to point out that Lyle is also 34 now - so that just confirms that your date of birth is at least within ~4 weeks of his.Radostanradical said:
Haha this is brilliant, to be honest one of the reasons i went private was this post and throught a conspiracy theorist would put two and two together and get five. Alsosorry but I am 34 now.Oh_Yoni_Boy said:
Lyle James Alfred Taylor (born 29 March 1990)Radostanradical said:@ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
(sorry didn't realise the gif would be absolutely massive)
We can put down our pitchforks anyway as you said you're "reasonably fit", so can't be Taylor from what I've seen Cambridge fans posting on Twitter!
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My god, those pharma companies are still raking it in I see, keep weighing out for something you most likely don’t need though.peterreeves said:My wife and daughter got their jab at Boots Bluewater at the weekend, £97.50 each.
A bit eye watering but the criteria for a free jab has reduced quite a bit and will be even smaller come the Autumn booster so it was not surprising to see quite a number of people from all age ranges paying out.
By the way anyone living in Kent the only Boots offering the jab is Maidstone, Chatham and Bluewater. If you pop into London the the nearest is Gallions Reach.7 -
Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?ME14addick said:
Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?Stig said:
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.ME14addick said:
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ME14addick's suggestion that the cost of yet another vaccine might prove to be prohibitive to people choosing to have another load of feeble junk pumped into their bodies doesn't - naturally - take into account that people might now be aware of the tens of thousands of people suffering from debilitating/life-changing adverse reactions from 'Safe and 'effective' vaccines in the biggest clinical trial in the history of medicine.Covered End said:
Just another filthy racket foisted on a trusting populace. And children. And babies.6 -
Possibly, the latest figures I've seen are that over 4000 people have died of Covid since the start of the year.aliwibble said:
Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?ME14addick said:
Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?Stig said:
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.ME14addick said:
A new variant is now in circulation which will increase the numbers suffering from Long Covid.
How are you now @aliwibble
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Rare side effects the article says.Redskin said:
ME14addick's suggestion that the cost of yet another vaccine might prove to be prohibitive to people choosing to have another load of feeble junk pumped into their bodies doesn't - naturally - take into account that people might now be aware of the tens of thousands of people suffering from debilitating/life-changing adverse reactions from 'Safe and 'effective' vaccines in the biggest clinical trial in the history of medicine.Covered End said:
Just another filthy racket foisted on a trusting populace. And children. And babies.
Over 111,000 children now suffering from Long Covid in this country.
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Even if your estimate of tens of thousands of serious side-effects is true, from an estimated 13,570,000,000 doses of vaccine that is a tiny drop in the ocean. Name any drug that doesn't have side-effects.Redskin said:
ME14addick's suggestion that the cost of yet another vaccine might prove to be prohibitive to people choosing to have another load of feeble junk pumped into their bodies doesn't - naturally - take into account that people might now be aware of the tens of thousands of people suffering from debilitating/life-changing adverse reactions from 'Safe and 'effective' vaccines in the biggest clinical trial in the history of medicine.Covered End said:
Just another filthy racket foisted on a trusting populace. And children. And babies.
My company insures many of the large Universities in this country who were involved in the actual clinical trials of the vaccines. If the vaccines were doing what you think they were doing we would be inundated with major losses. We're not. Not even remotely close.6 -
Oh do give it a rest.Redskin said:
ME14addick's suggestion that the cost of yet another vaccine might prove to be prohibitive to people choosing to have another load of feeble junk pumped into their bodies doesn't - naturally - take into account that people might now be aware of the tens of thousands of people suffering from debilitating/life-changing adverse reactions from 'Safe and 'effective' vaccines in the biggest clinical trial in the history of medicine.Covered End said:
Just another filthy racket foisted on a trusting populace. And children. And babies.7 -
Thank the Lord we have you and others to inform and educate us sheep.Redskin said:
ME14addick's suggestion that the cost of yet another vaccine might prove to be prohibitive to people choosing to have another load of feeble junk pumped into their bodies doesn't - naturally - take into account that people might now be aware of the tens of thousands of people suffering from debilitating/life-changing adverse reactions from 'Safe and 'effective' vaccines in the biggest clinical trial in the history of medicine.Covered End said:
Just another filthy racket foisted on a trusting populace. And children. And babies.5 -
OCD is difficult to cure and ‘ironically’ needs ‘strong’ medication to reduce its cause and symptoms…..just saying. 😇ShootersHillGuru said:
Oh do give it a rest.Redskin said:
ME14addick's suggestion that the cost of yet another vaccine might prove to be prohibitive to people choosing to have another load of feeble junk pumped into their bodies doesn't - naturally - take into account that people might now be aware of the tens of thousands of people suffering from debilitating/life-changing adverse reactions from 'Safe and 'effective' vaccines in the biggest clinical trial in the history of medicine.Covered End said:
Just another filthy racket foisted on a trusting populace. And children. And babies.0 -
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
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There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.2 -
NO…… IT’S A THREAD ALL ABOUT YOU AND YOUR MAD OBSESSION!!! 🤮😵💫ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.3 -
ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.4 -
bob……bless you mate for asking the questions but I can tell you verbatim what the answers will be.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
She will immediately go and find other media articles that will support her line of reasoning, thereby justifying herself.
How many hours a day she spends swatting up on this stuff Lord above knows…..it must be hours and hours.
I am convinced this thread has taken over her life!2 - Sponsored links:
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Zzzzzzzzzz!!!ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.1 -
A new study from my local health Authority:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
https://www.ndtv.com/science/there-is-no-such-thing-as-long-covid-australian-study-finds-5242371
Obviously, just another "Conspiracy Site".
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It will literally be decades before the murky waters of Covid start to clear. It has been reported that Covid has the potential to affect practically every bodily system and organ and there will be people suffering from many and diverse symptoms for varying lengths of time. Trying to pull together the threads of these Covid related (?) illnesses from various countries and disciplines with different data sets will take a very very long time and as far as long Covid and its effects or indeed it’s existence are concerned I doubt we’ll have a very much clearer picture in the lifetime of anyone reading this thread. Is Covid still a concern ? Yes of course it is but I doubt there are very many people who now give it more than a seconds thought. All those who are considered clinically vulnerable should have the choice to continue to receive booster vaccines and the rest of us should now just get on with life.4
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I can think of someone who gives it more than a seconds thought.ShootersHillGuru said:It will literally be decades before the murky waters of Covid start to clear. It has been reported that Covid has the potential to affect practically every bodily system and organ and there will be people suffering from many and diverse symptoms for varying lengths of time. Trying to pull together the threads of these Covid related (?) illnesses from various countries and disciplines with different data sets will take a very very long time and as far as long Covid and its effects or indeed it’s existence are concerned I doubt we’ll have a very much clearer picture in the lifetime of anyone reading this thread. Is Covid still a concern ? Yes of course it is but I doubt there are very many people who now give it more than a seconds thought. All those who are considered clinically vulnerable should have the choice to continue to receive booster vaccines and the rest of us should now just get on with life.6 -
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
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If people don't like what I post and it seems to upset quite a few on here, there is no need to open a thread about Covid. What I choose to do with my time is nobody else's business but mine.
If anyone can tell me that the information and links to medical and scientific studies that I have posted are not true, then I'd like to know.
We certainly don't know the long term effects of the virus as it is so new, but from the studies already carried out, there is plenty of evidence of the harm it can do and to ignore that evidence and hide it from most of the population, who are only too willing to think it is only a cold, is very negligent on the part of those whose job it is to protect the health of the nation.
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The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
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Which can also be caused by CovidFishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/Long Covid symptoms
What are the symptoms of long Covid?
Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:
- fatigue
- difficulty concentrating
- muscle aches
- shortness of breath
However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:
Heart and circulatory symptoms
- chest tightness or pain
- heart palpitations
- changes to heart rate
Joint and muscle pain
- muscle and join paint
- pain in the back or shoulders
Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms
- not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’)
- headaches
- hallucinations
- amnesia
- dizziness
- difficulty with motor function or speech
- pins and needles
Mental health effects
- symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
- symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
- symptoms of PTSD
Respiratory symptoms
- persistent cough
- sore throat
- difficulty breathing
Stomach and digestive symptoms
- stomach pain
- diarrhoea
- vomiting
- bowel incontinence
Ear nose and throat symptoms
- changes to sense of smell or taste
- earache
- ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
General symptoms
- nausea
- a high temperature
- feeling hot and cold
- heavy arms or legs
Skin and hair symptoms
- hair loss
- skin rashes
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I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.
You might want to read this:
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/
Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends.0 -
The original COVID could be very severe with long lasting effects for some. But, let’s get some balance here. I was at the doctor's yesterday for my annual check up. We were talking about Covid a bit and she said the recent variant of COVID is mild. I, like others, don’t understand the continued obsession with Covid and its long term effects. Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally.3
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