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It doesn't need a severe infection to cause Long Covid and there are studies that show that repeated infections increases the likelihood of developing Long Covid.Rob said:The original COVID could be very severe with long lasting effects for some. But, let’s get some balance here. I was at the doctor's yesterday for my annual check up. We were talking about Covid a bit and she said the recent variant of COVID is mild. I, like others, don’t understand the continued obsession with Covid and its long term effects. Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally.
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It seems to confirm that sickness has increased enormously in the last 4 years.FishCostaFortune said:I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.
You might want to read this:
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/
Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends.4 -
‘Indeed, as is indicated by the shaded areas in Figure 4, economic inactivity due to long-term sickness has been rising consistently on an annual basis for the past four-and-a-half years since the summer of 2019 (before the Covid-19 pandemic). ii This is the second-longest sustained rise in sickness-related inactivity on record, and is only one month shorter than the longest rise, seen between 1994-1998. The consistency of this rise is what will worry policymakers (and Treasury officials) the most: it does not appear to be a short-term, Covid-19-related, blip.’ME14addick said:
It seems to confirm that sickness has increased enormously in the last 4 years.FishCostaFortune said:I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.
You might want to read this:
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/
Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends.
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Do yourself a favour.ME14addick said:
It seems to confirm that sickness has increased enormously in the last 4 years.FishCostaFortune said:I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.
You might want to read this:
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/
Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends.
Move on from your obsession about Covid and have a nice holiday.
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I think my doctor would have told me that if she had a concern. Most people are healthily moving on from Covid. Obsession/ paranoia can be a disease unto itself.ME14addick said:
It doesn't need a severe infection to cause Long Covid and there are studies that show that repeated infections increases the likelihood of developing Long Covid.Rob said:The original COVID could be very severe with long lasting effects for some. But, let’s get some balance here. I was at the doctor's yesterday for my annual check up. We were talking about Covid a bit and she said the recent variant of COVID is mild. I, like others, don’t understand the continued obsession with Covid and its long term effects. Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally.3 -
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.1 -
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.Covered End said:
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.4 -
Thanks for asking @ME14Addick. Unfortunately I had a bout of pneumonia in February/March (fever of 103, saved a fortune on the heating for a couple of weeks) and that's set me back a bit, both in terms of the general fatigue and feeling like my brain is mush. Ironically, one of the side effects of having Long Covid meant I got seen more quickly at the Urgent Care Centre, as they use a pulse ox device at the booking desk, and the fact my pulse rate still shoots up to 135 if I stand up for more than a few minutes meant I got bumped up the list to be triaged. Still had to wait an hour though.ME14addick said:
Possibly, the latest figures I've seen are that over 4000 people have died of Covid since the start of the year.aliwibble said:
Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?ME14addick said:
Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?Stig said:
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.ME14addick said:.
A new variant is now in circulation which will increase the numbers suffering from Long Covid.
How are you now @aliwibble
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While I'm here, I know this is a contentious issue, but can people NOT chuck about diagnosis of other posters' mental health like confetti please? If you're qualified it's a breach of professional ethics, and if you're not qualified then you're not in a position to comment. Thank you.
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Resolution foundation are excellent on basically every social issue. Incredibly detailed well researched evidenced based information. Do a hell of a lot of good and influence policy. Almost got my dream job there pre covid but didn't quite.FishCostaFortune said:I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.
You might want to read this:
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/
Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends.
Well worth a follow on twitter as is Torston Bell the Chief exec (rumoured to be a Charlton fan too but unconfirmed).1 - Sponsored links:
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Rare side effects
Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally
The milk of human kindness...
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/05/01/government-caught-playing-hardball-over-vaccine-injury-payouts-as-victims-legal-bills-mount/
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Wow, that's a big assumption, the kind of person who does that is far more likely to have a personality disorder.Covered End said:
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
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I'm sorry to hear that @aliwibble but glad that you were able to be treated quickly.aliwibble said:
Thanks for asking @ME14Addick. Unfortunately I had a bout of pneumonia in February/March (fever of 103, saved a fortune on the heating for a couple of weeks) and that's set me back a bit, both in terms of the general fatigue and feeling like my brain is mush. Ironically, one of the side effects of having Long Covid meant I got seen more quickly at the Urgent Care Centre, as they use a pulse ox device at the booking desk, and the fact my pulse rate still shoots up to 135 if I stand up for more than a few minutes meant I got bumped up the list to be triaged. Still had to wait an hour though.ME14addick said:
Possibly, the latest figures I've seen are that over 4000 people have died of Covid since the start of the year.aliwibble said:
Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?ME14addick said:
Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?Stig said:
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.ME14addick said:
A new variant is now in circulation which will increase the numbers suffering from Long Covid.
How are you now @aliwibble
As you know my interest in Covid started when a friend reported about her condition on Facebook. She had a severe infection in the very early days of the pandemic and it took a couple of years for her to reach anything like normal life. She still posts occasionally about ongoing problems and is frustrated at the lack of understanding by so many people
It was hearing her story that first brought to my attention, the fact that the SARS-Cov-2 virus causes far more than a respiratory infection.
As this is a football forum I've posted a link below to the problems experienced by an Irish footballer whose life has been drastically affected by Long Covid.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/shamrock-rovers-star-breaks-silence-32708100?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1zfxEOFRRntbaG1JmDWjCDZkdZ37s_VF0qaOEMiEK14G8twr-gycyOFS8_aem_AUu2tRFQLElfATRyiEC8STCno6s_ujJuGbRcoQlghS6xcuzEQft0_QI8j99TaCDs9SHqRuhnpHt4fAjFuKG0EGMF
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So basically any symptom now = Long Covid... Nice.ME14addick said:
Which can also be caused by CovidFishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/Long Covid symptoms
What are the symptoms of long Covid?
Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:
- fatigue
- difficulty concentrating
- muscle aches
- shortness of breath
However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:
Heart and circulatory symptoms
- chest tightness or pain
- heart palpitations
- changes to heart rate
Joint and muscle pain
- muscle and join paint
- pain in the back or shoulders
Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms
- not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’)
- headaches
- hallucinations
- amnesia
- dizziness
- difficulty with motor function or speech
- pins and needles
Mental health effects
- symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
- symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
- symptoms of PTSD
Respiratory symptoms
- persistent cough
- sore throat
- difficulty breathing
Stomach and digestive symptoms
- stomach pain
- diarrhoea
- vomiting
- bowel incontinence
Ear nose and throat symptoms
- changes to sense of smell or taste
- earache
- ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
General symptoms
- nausea
- a high temperature
- feeling hot and cold
- heavy arms or legs
Skin and hair symptoms
- hair loss
- skin rashes
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Yes, a Covid infection can cause all of those, that's why the narrative that 'Covid is over' is so wrong.Dazzler21 said:
So basically any symptom now = Long Covid... Nice.ME14addick said:
Which can also be caused by CovidFishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/Long Covid symptoms
What are the symptoms of long Covid?
Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:
- fatigue
- difficulty concentrating
- muscle aches
- shortness of breath
However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:
Heart and circulatory symptoms
- chest tightness or pain
- heart palpitations
- changes to heart rate
Joint and muscle pain
- muscle and join paint
- pain in the back or shoulders
Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms
- not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’)
- headaches
- hallucinations
- amnesia
- dizziness
- difficulty with motor function or speech
- pins and needles
Mental health effects
- symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
- symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
- symptoms of PTSD
Respiratory symptoms
- persistent cough
- sore throat
- difficulty breathing
Stomach and digestive symptoms
- stomach pain
- diarrhoea
- vomiting
- bowel incontinence
Ear nose and throat symptoms
- changes to sense of smell or taste
- earache
- ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
General symptoms
- nausea
- a high temperature
- feeling hot and cold
- heavy arms or legs
Skin and hair symptoms
- hair loss
- skin rashes
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I see nothing has changed on this thread 🤣. I called it about two years ago and got accused of ‘bullying’ when it’s always worked both ways.
Trying to pass off mental health problems as a symptom of catching Covid in the context the original comment was made, is reaching at its worst and not a good look.0 -
Dazzler21 said:
So basically any symptom now = Long Covid... Nice.ME14addick said:
Which can also be caused by CovidFishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/Long Covid symptoms
What are the symptoms of long Covid?
Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:
- fatigue
- difficulty concentrating
- muscle aches
- shortness of breath
However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:
Heart and circulatory symptoms
- chest tightness or pain
- heart palpitations
- changes to heart rate
Joint and muscle pain
- muscle and join paint
- pain in the back or shoulders
Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms
- not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’)
- headaches
- hallucinations
- amnesia
- dizziness
- difficulty with motor function or speech
- pins and needles
Mental health effects
- symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
- symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
- symptoms of PTSD
Respiratory symptoms
- persistent cough
- sore throat
- difficulty breathing
Stomach and digestive symptoms
- stomach pain
- diarrhoea
- vomiting
- bowel incontinence
Ear nose and throat symptoms
- changes to sense of smell or taste
- earache
- ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
General symptoms
- nausea
- a high temperature
- feeling hot and cold
- heavy arms or legs
Skin and hair symptoms
- hair loss
- skin rashes
Seems that way - every symptom of every ailment pretty much listed there."Doctor - my ingrowing toe nail is giving me a lot of pain.""Ah - that'll be Long-Covid."7 -
And it explains my receding hairline!bobmunro said:Dazzler21 said:
So basically any symptom now = Long Covid... Nice.ME14addick said:
Which can also be caused by CovidFishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/Long Covid symptoms
What are the symptoms of long Covid?
Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:
- fatigue
- difficulty concentrating
- muscle aches
- shortness of breath
However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:
Heart and circulatory symptoms
- chest tightness or pain
- heart palpitations
- changes to heart rate
Joint and muscle pain
- muscle and join paint
- pain in the back or shoulders
Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms
- not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’)
- headaches
- hallucinations
- amnesia
- dizziness
- difficulty with motor function or speech
- pins and needles
Mental health effects
- symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
- symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
- symptoms of PTSD
Respiratory symptoms
- persistent cough
- sore throat
- difficulty breathing
Stomach and digestive symptoms
- stomach pain
- diarrhoea
- vomiting
- bowel incontinence
Ear nose and throat symptoms
- changes to sense of smell or taste
- earache
- ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
General symptoms
- nausea
- a high temperature
- feeling hot and cold
- heavy arms or legs
Skin and hair symptoms
- hair loss
- skin rashes
Seems that way - every symptom of every ailment pretty much listed there."Doctor - my ingrowing toe nail is giving me a lot of pain.""Ah - that'll be Long-Covid."5 -
My stool was a big gloopy this morning. Looks like I'll be joining the LC gang ✌️0
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Long toenail surely?bobmunro said:Dazzler21 said:
So basically any symptom now = Long Covid... Nice.ME14addick said:
Which can also be caused by CovidFishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/Long Covid symptoms
What are the symptoms of long Covid?
Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:
- fatigue
- difficulty concentrating
- muscle aches
- shortness of breath
However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:
Heart and circulatory symptoms
- chest tightness or pain
- heart palpitations
- changes to heart rate
Joint and muscle pain
- muscle and join paint
- pain in the back or shoulders
Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms
- not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’)
- headaches
- hallucinations
- amnesia
- dizziness
- difficulty with motor function or speech
- pins and needles
Mental health effects
- symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
- symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
- symptoms of PTSD
Respiratory symptoms
- persistent cough
- sore throat
- difficulty breathing
Stomach and digestive symptoms
- stomach pain
- diarrhoea
- vomiting
- bowel incontinence
Ear nose and throat symptoms
- changes to sense of smell or taste
- earache
- ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
General symptoms
- nausea
- a high temperature
- feeling hot and cold
- heavy arms or legs
Skin and hair symptoms
- hair loss
- skin rashes
Seems that way - every symptom of every ailment pretty much listed there."Doctor - my ingrowing toe nail is giving me a lot of pain.""Ah - that'll be Long-Covid."7 - Sponsored links:
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You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.ME14addick said:
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.Covered End said:
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.8 -
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.shine166 said:
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.ME14addick said:
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.Covered End said:
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
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I won't respond to the individual comments, which are too childish to bother with, but the sheer number of Long Covid symptoms shows that this is not just a cold, but a virus that can do damage throughout the body.2
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ME14addick said:
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.shine166 said:
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.ME14addick said:
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.Covered End said:
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.At best, they are certainly hedging their bets.The list of symptoms of 'Long Covid' on the list you posted is laughable - as Shooters said, it will be years, maybe decades before we know enough about the longer term impact of Covid infections - if ever. By listing what they have it's an admission that they haven't got a scooby. On any given day I would hazard a guess that a significant number of the population (and by that I mean 10s of millions) could self-report one or more of those symptoms as it pretty much covers everything. That's the problem with self-reporting - you say the symptoms are very diverse (you aint kidding) and there is no one test that fits all. THERE ARE NO TESTS for whatever Long Covid is or might be.You have also said that people who are ill should not go out - would that be if they have any of those symptoms?5 -
So you have told us.ME14addick said:I won't respond to the individual comments, which are too childish to bother with, but the sheer number of Long Covid symptoms shows that this is not just a cold, but a virus that can do damage throughout the body.
About 800 times.6 -
Had my fifth this week, and still not dead4
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Well that's baldybonce stuck indoors for the foreseeable then.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.shine166 said:
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.ME14addick said:
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.Covered End said:
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.At best, they are certainly hedging their bets.The list of symptoms of 'Long Covid' on the list you posted is laughable - as Shooters said, it will be years, maybe decades before we know enough about the longer term impact of Covid infections - if ever. By listing what they have it's an admission that they haven't got a scooby. On any given day I would hazard a guess that a significant number of the population (and by that I mean 10s of millions) could self-report one or more of those symptoms as it pretty much covers everything. That's the problem with self-reporting - you say the symptoms are very diverse (you aint kidding) and there is no one test that fits all. THERE ARE NO TESTS for whatever Long Covid is or might be.You have also said that people who are ill should not go out - would that be if they have any of those symptoms?1 -
Your list of symptoms covers almost every single ailment that a human being can have. Since when were the BHF specialists in mental health and anxiety ?ME14addick said:
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.shine166 said:
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.ME14addick said:
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.Covered End said:
Due in no small part to the lockdowns.FishCostaFortune said:
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.ME14addick said:
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.bobmunro said:ME14addick said:
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.SoundAsa£ said:Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?Genuine questions.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
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All comes down to personal preference and the risks involved based on the situation and medical history. Bit like wearing a "johnny" with a new partner.
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