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Know Your Birds? - Edit - Not That Kind!

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  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    swordfish said:
    Stig said:
    They are definitely spreading out from the city. I've seen them here in Essex recently (though annoyingly not been able to photograph one here yet). You might expect a species that can cover 150 miles in a day might have got rather further. I don't think latitude per se would be the reason that they aren't seen in Kettering. There are sizeable populations in Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle and there have been multiple sightings in Sheffield, Leeds, Nottingham, Derby and even Glasgow. That they are more likely to be seen in cities could be due to a number of reasons. It may be that they are separate populations from different escapes or releases of caged birds. It could be that highly populated areas are a little warmer, that there are easier supplies of food on bird feeders or maybe just that there's more sightings of a similar number of birds because there are more people about to see them. Finally, it's not just an individual species' ability to cope minor temperature changes, it's the ability of anything that is their prey food - it's all interconnected. That said, I'm not sure that Parakeets are particularly fussy eaters, so unlike something like the Netted Carpet Moth, it'd probably survive in a whole range of places.
    Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the clusters in other big cities, the biggest town near me being Northampton but I've yet to see one there either. Interesting. I did once see some playing pitch and putt in Sidcup, well the Parakeet's weren't playing obviously 😉
    I bet they were trying to avoid eagles 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    swordfish said:
    Stig said:
    They are definitely spreading out from the city. I've seen them here in Essex recently (though annoyingly not been able to photograph one here yet). You might expect a species that can cover 150 miles in a day might have got rather further. I don't think latitude per se would be the reason that they aren't seen in Kettering. There are sizeable populations in Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester and Newcastle and there have been multiple sightings in Sheffield, Leeds, Nottingham, Derby and even Glasgow. That they are more likely to be seen in cities could be due to a number of reasons. It may be that they are separate populations from different escapes or releases of caged birds. It could be that highly populated areas are a little warmer, that there are easier supplies of food on bird feeders or maybe just that there's more sightings of a similar number of birds because there are more people about to see them. Finally, it's not just an individual species' ability to cope minor temperature changes, it's the ability of anything that is their prey food - it's all interconnected. That said, I'm not sure that Parakeets are particularly fussy eaters, so unlike something like the Netted Carpet Moth, it'd probably survive in a whole range of places.
    Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the clusters in other big cities, the biggest town near me being Northampton but I've yet to see one there either. Interesting. I did once see some playing pitch and putt in Sidcup, well the Parakeet's weren't playing obviously 😉
    I bet they were trying to avoid eagles 
    Don't blame them
    The stripy Palace wankers 
  • fadgadget
    fadgadget Posts: 1,392
    swordfish said:
    Don't have Ringed Necked Parakeet's in Kettering. Don't know why. It's not that cold.  Native to Sidcup aren't they? 
    Thousands in Thamesmead , nesting quite happily .  
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    GANNETS!!! - not a native species to Kettering! Taken at Bempton Cliffs RSPB by me last week whilst on holiday near Bridlington.

    I've very little by way of gear, and absolutely no idea. We saw Puffins too and all sorts of other sea birds.


  • KettsJohn
    KettsJohn Posts: 1,210
    swordfish said:
    GANNETS!!! - not a native species to Kettering! Taken at Bempton Cliffs RSPB by me last week whilst on holiday near Bridlington.

    I've very little by way of gear, and absolutely no idea. We saw Puffins too and all sorts of other sea birds.


    Off to Bempton on Friday. Seabird central.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026

    Bearded Reedlings. A pair seen at the same time. 
  • jonseventyfive
    jonseventyfive Posts: 3,354
    Nice pair of wrens nesting in our wisteria, little buggers are a bit quick for me but I'll try to snap them when they settle down a bit.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,481
    swordfish said:
    swordfish said:
    Don't have Ringed Necked Parakeet's in Kettering. Don't know why. It's not that cold.  Native to Sidcup aren't they? 
    Plenty in the Orpington area. 
    They fly over my house every day.
    I don't get why they haven't populated areas other than the South East. I used to live in Orpington, well more than half a lifetime ago (30+years) Never had them then! I can only believe they're either lazy or it's the climate that's stopped them spreading north, but I can't believe they'd be that sensitive to minor temperature differences.
    There was a large colony roosting in the Lombardy poplar trees along the banks of the River Ravensbourne  in Beckenham Place Park .This was in the early 60’s, I assume that colony are still there?
    Also from the early 70’s, a large colony (once again roosting in Lombardy poplar trees) in Hither Green Cemetery along side Verdant Lane. One again I don’t know if they are still there?
    They are certainly attracted to roosting in Lombardy poplar trees.
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,841
    edited June 2024


    We get quite a few Woodpeckers, but seldom two at once - my wife got lucky with this shot, Dad and his lad.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026

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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,481
    edited June 2024
    Stig said:

    Charming bird in many ways but can also be a very spiteful little bugger when protecting their patch.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026

    Fishing masterclass from a Little Egret. It hardly ever missed its target. I think the fish is probably a perch, but I doubt you can tell from this picture.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,987
    I'm enjoying the Merlin Bird ID app at the moment. You leave it running in the background or by a window or whatever, it records and tells you what's in the area singing. This is the best 7 minute haul I've had at home in Greenhithe so far. 

  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    Merlin is a game changer. I thoroughly recommend it.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,987
    Stig said:
    Merlin is a game changer. I thoroughly recommend it.
    Have you used it before? I should have posted it a few weeks ago. Did so today as I jogged along Gravesend-Higham marshes and kept stopping to figure out what birds I could hear. 

    Tonight I wondered what the ruckus was outside and we had 3 or 4 jays  :)
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    Yes, I use it regularly. I love it. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    RedPanda said:
    Stig said:
    Merlin is a game changer. I thoroughly recommend it.
    Have you used it before? I should have posted it a few weeks ago. Did so today as I jogged along Gravesend-Higham marshes and kept stopping to figure out what birds I could hear. 

    Tonight I wondered what the ruckus was outside and we had 3 or 4 jays  :)
    It’s very good but does occasionally throw out odd suggestions so just beware of that. Usually very reliable though 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    fenaddick said:
    RedPanda said:
    Stig said:
    Merlin is a game changer. I thoroughly recommend it.
    Have you used it before? I should have posted it a few weeks ago. Did so today as I jogged along Gravesend-Higham marshes and kept stopping to figure out what birds I could hear. 

    Tonight I wondered what the ruckus was outside and we had 3 or 4 jays  :)
    It’s very good but does occasionally throw out odd suggestions so just beware of that. Usually very reliable though 
    It keeps telling me there's a Golden Oriole in the vicinity. I was so excited the first couple of times (was in the same place) - soon learned to control myself.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Golden glory hole?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    This bird looks like a cross between Great Tit (there is a hint of colour), long tailed tit and possibly sparrow.
    It doesn’t really look like anything.
    It almost has the shape of a tiny starling.
    Here’s a few not very good photos.
    Any ideas?


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  • Darty Valiant
    Darty Valiant Posts: 618
    edited July 2024
    Looks like an upturned hanging basket. Nice.

    On a serious note, as a starter for 10, I’d say a juvenile great tit. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Looks like an upturned hanging basket. Nice.

    On a serious note, as a starter for 10, I’d say a juvenile great tit. 
    Excuse me, that is my squirrel defender  :)
    But it has a narrow face, a long tail and very little colour.
    Thanks.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Looks like an upturned hanging basket. Nice.

    On a serious note, as a starter for 10, I’d say a juvenile great tit. 
    Excuse me, that is my squirrel defender  :)
    But it has a narrow face, a long tail and very little colour.
    Thanks.
    Yes that sounds like a Grey. Not worth defending though. The reds are. They aren't as common but they are native to these islands. 🐿️ 😉
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    This bird looks like a cross between Great Tit (there is a hint of colour), long tailed tit and possibly sparrow.
    It doesn’t really look like anything.
    It almost has the shape of a tiny starling.
    Here’s a few not very good photos.
    Any ideas?


    10/10 for creativity on the hanging basket squirrel guard
    But the pestilent grey bastards around our way would use that happily to raid the feeders hanging upside down to plunder the goodies
    We had to shift our bird feeder at least 10 feet from any fence or overhanging trees or the diseased immigrants would be leaping in from all angles
    The plastic bowl shaped thing halfway up the pole is perfect for stopping them climbing up from ground level 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,762
    Unfortunately I didn't get a photo, but we saw a White-tailed Eagle when we were on holiday on the Isle of Wight recently. It was wonderful to see such a magnificent bird.
  • The Mirror today reported that a pair of blue winged teal have been spotted at Tophill Low nature reserve, East Yorkshire, over the last year.  They are native to North America and extremely rare here.   
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,055
    Not going to post a picture as it's pretty graphic but there's a Eurasian Sparrowhawk currently picking apart a pigeon on my driveway, amazed it's doing so in such an urban environment
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026

    Pallas' Leaf Warbler. I didn't know whether to photograph it or chuck a brick at it. 😉

    Seriously though, this beautiful little bird is a resident of Asia and is well out of its natural range in Essex so it was an honour to see it.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892

    Hall Place, Bexley today.

    No idea what it is but it kept dropping/diving at what looks like the dried area.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892