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MATCH THREAD: England vs Switzerland - 5pm KO (BBC)

ForeverAddickted
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England XI Pickford Walker Rice Stones Saka Kane C Bellingham Foden Trippier Konsa Mainoo
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,892
    Wholesale changes in personnel and formation!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461

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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    Foden still on the pitch after 4 games of doing nothing. 

    Why do I never learn. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,950
    Hmm. Wanted someone else at LB. Gordon and Palmer to start would have been ideal.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,966
    edited July 2024
    Be interesting to see if it's still 4231 or Saka 3  at the back with Saka and Trippier wing backs.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    North Lower Neil said:
    Be interesting to see if it's still 4231 or Saka 352 with Saka and Trippier wing backs.
    Or 3421 with Bellingham and Foden behind Kane
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,912
    hopefully we dont leave it until the 88th minute to make a change when chasing the game this time 😂 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    3-5-2
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,362
    strong line up, G S's got it right this time, we win a difficult game as the Swiss have a very good and experienced team, especially in defence
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    Problem yet again here is width. England were doing well with overlapping full/wing backs. Now we've got a bunch of central players and one isolated wing back at each side. 

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    SELR_addicks said:
    Problem yet again here is width. England were doing well with overlapping full/wing backs. Now we've got a bunch of central players and one isolated wing back at each side. 
    Trippier and Foden down the left definitely wasn’t working well.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    edited July 2024
    Scoham said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Problem yet again here is width. England were doing well with overlapping full/wing backs. Now we've got a bunch of central players and one isolated wing back at each side. 
    Trippier and Foden down the left definitely wasn’t working well.
    The right was though and most of our chances came from Saka/Walker pairing. 

    We've neutered that to now leave two players isolated outside with no real support easily being able to be marked.

    There's two options to fix it, channel running by Foden and Bellingham to create openings for Saka/Trippier overlaps. 

    Or lots and lots of crosses from Trippier and Saka into Kane + another striker. That's why I think Foden for Toney was the better move. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    SELR_addicks said:
    Scoham said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Problem yet again here is width. England were doing well with overlapping full/wing backs. Now we've got a bunch of central players and one isolated wing back at each side. 
    Trippier and Foden down the left definitely wasn’t working well.
    The right was though and most of our chances came from Saka/Walker pairing. 

    We've neutered that to now leave two players isolated outside with no real support easily being able to be marked. Can't see Bellingham and Foden coming wide to offer help. 
    Overall though we weren’t playing well enough, we needed to up the tempo so personally I’d have been disappointed if we stuck with the same 4-3-3/4-2-3-1.

    They should both drift about in those roles with the freedom to come wide but we’ll see how well it works in reality. I wouldn’t have minded two strikers up there to give us someone who can run in behind.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,522
    edited July 2024


    Assuming it is the 3421 then fair enough, will take that line up and formation.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,912
    I hope we don’t go one up and then do the normal sit back if we do that we lose. Just play the game we are the better team man for man if we don’t over think things we win
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,300
    Foden and Saka should have been dropped for Palmer and Gordon and kept the 4231, the 352 only works with proper wingbacks on both sides and Trippier and Saka aren't that
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,893
    CL_Phantom said:


    Assuming it is the 3421 then fair enough, will take that line up and formation.
    11 vs 3 Swiss players, I fancy us to win, though it might take extra time.
  • Mr. Happy
    Mr. Happy Posts: 653
    killerandflash said:
    CL_Phantom said:


    Assuming it is the 3421 then fair enough, will take that line up and formation.
    11 vs 3 Swiss players, I fancy us to win, though it might take extra time.
    Fancy us on penalties if they've got no keeper.
  • CharltonMadrid
    CharltonMadrid Posts: 5,091
    We need to up our game 100% in comparison to the other matches but hopefully the dramatic ending to the Slovakia game has given us momentum.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    edited July 2024
    Just win please... lets get the JOB DONE!! - With as few bookings as possible, what with the risk to some key players

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,893
    4 players on a yellow, including Bellingham and Foden
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,038
    I find it a little odd that the Germans have chosen to start these games with Dad's Army style flags on the pitch.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    Trippier left, Saka right…
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    Doesnt look like we've started with three at the back
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    This is basically the same team that played Slovakia minus the suspended Guehi.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,823
    Same set up, ridiculous 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,182
    Saka at RWB and Trippier at LWB. WTF?!?!
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,522
    All that excitement for nothing, same set up
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    Exiled_Addick said:
    Saka at RWB and Trippier at LWB. WTF?!?!
    Looks more like a back four? - Walker isnt playing Centre-Back at the moment
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    Comedy, especially after Foden said he'd play better in this new set-up. 

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