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GrantedBriston_Addick said:I hereby request permission to point at Totteringham and laugh.1 -
Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.0
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Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.1 -
In my eyes he is.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
There's only so many goals you can conceded the same way without questions being asked.
Granted I was at the wrong end to give an opinion on the goal but Spurs mate watching on tv said Romero and/or Vicario were at fault. If thats the case then thats 4 goals conceeded this season, ALL Romero's fault.
That aside, Spurs has plenty of possession but done nothing. Neither Winger (read Johnson, Son, Werner, Odobert) created a single chance.
Maddison, not his best game granted but why take him off with 10 mins to go? Surely he's the one to unlock a pass? No, lets put another winger on, move Son in the middle then have noone in midfield capable of getting the ball to feed the wingers.
Arsenal defended deep, done everything simple, got the job done. Arteta had them set up perfectly. Saliba and Gabriel excellent, Partey and Jorghino mopped up brilliantly and their front players worked their bollocks off. The perfect away performance.
Got what we deserved, absolutely nothing. That performance stunk the place out given who they were missing.
Ange is under massive pressure now.
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He probably is. But what do spurs do? - chase the best managers available - Conte, Mourinho, etc, etc and come up short, go for the best manager in a pub league and come up short…it’s been going on for years. Bottom line is top 6 is about right for them. From an outside perspective, the problems are higher up the chain. There best players aren’t up there with Man City’s best players. Arsenal were without 6 or 7 their better players today. Yet most of the replacement players would get in Tottenham’s team.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.2 -
Could blame anyone really. Romero for losing his man, Vicario for not coming for it (although he was blocked off), or some of the other defenders for standing their watching their man rather than the ball.JohnBoyUK said:
In my eyes he is.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
There's only so many goals you can conceded the same way without questions being asked.
Granted I was at the wrong end to give an opinion on the goal but Spurs mate watching on tv said Romero and/or Vicario were at fault. If thats the case then thats 4 goals conceeded this season, ALL Romero's fault.
That aside, Spurs has plenty of possession but done nothing. Neither Winger (read Johnson, Son, Werner, Odobert) created a single chance.
Maddison, not his best game granted but why take him off with 10 mins to go? Surely he's the one to unlock a pass? No, lets put another winger on, move Son in the middle then have noone in midfield capable of getting the ball to feed the wingers.
Arsenal defended deep, done everything simple, got the job done. Arteta had them set up perfectly. Saliba and Gabriel excellent, Partey and Jorghino mopped up brilliantly and their front players worked their bollocks off. The perfect away performance.
Got what we deserved, absolutely nothing. That performance stunk the place out given who they were missing.
Ange is under massive pressure now.
Absolutely criminal to give Gabriel a free header unmarked from 5 yards out.1 -
JohnBoyUK said:
In my eyes he is.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
There's only so many goals you can conceded the same way without questions being asked.
Granted I was at the wrong end to give an opinion on the goal but Spurs mate watching on tv said Romero and/or Vicario were at fault. If thats the case then thats 4 goals conceeded this season, ALL Romero's fault.
That aside, Spurs has plenty of possession but done nothing. Neither Winger (read Johnson, Son, Werner, Odobert) created a single chance.
Maddison, not his best game granted but why take him off with 10 mins to go? Surely he's the one to unlock a pass? No, lets put another winger on, move Son in the middle then have noone in midfield capable of getting the ball to feed the wingers.
Arsenal defended deep, done everything simple, got the job done. Arteta had them set up perfectly. Saliba and Gabriel excellent, Partey and Jorghino mopped up brilliantly and their front players worked their bollocks off. The perfect away performance.
Got what we deserved, absolutely nothing. That performance stunk the place out given who they were missing.
Ange is under massive pressure now.
Remember when Izzy Christiansen said on Sky after Spurs gave away a two goal lead against City to lose 4-2 that Romero lacked the discipline and always had a mistake in him? Some Spurs fans thought at the time that she was talking rubbish.
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Arsenal clearly had God on their side yesterdayAddick Addict said:Spurs won't have a better chance to turn over an Arsenal team missing Rice and Odegaard in the middle of the park. In fact, with the possible exception of Sterling and Jesus (and they have 5 minutes of football between them this season), Arsenal's bench doesn't look to me that of a title chasing side - it includes five players 18 or younger:
Neto, Kiwior, Kacurri, Heaven, Lewis-Skelly, Sterling, Nwaneri, Jesus, Kabia.1 -
I noticed there were a lot of crosses during the gamekillerandflash said:
Arsenal clearly had God on their side yesterdayAddick Addict said:Spurs won't have a better chance to turn over an Arsenal team missing Rice and Odegaard in the middle of the park. In fact, with the possible exception of Sterling and Jesus (and they have 5 minutes of football between them this season), Arsenal's bench doesn't look to me that of a title chasing side - it includes five players 18 or younger:
Neto, Kiwior, Kacurri, Heaven, Lewis-Skelly, Sterling, Nwaneri, Jesus, Kabia.0 -
DaveMehmet said:
I noticed there were a lot of crosses during the gamekillerandflash said:
Arsenal clearly had God on their side yesterdayAddick Addict said:Spurs won't have a better chance to turn over an Arsenal team missing Rice and Odegaard in the middle of the park. In fact, with the possible exception of Sterling and Jesus (and they have 5 minutes of football between them this season), Arsenal's bench doesn't look to me that of a title chasing side - it includes five players 18 or younger:
Neto, Kiwior, Kacurri, Heaven, Lewis-Skelly, Sterling, Nwaneri, Jesus, Kabia.
Arsenal really nailed it with that cross that lead them to the promised land of 3 points.0 - Sponsored links:
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I heard someone on TalkSport say that Spurs have a bang average team and a bang average manager. Well any "good" manager needs good players, just look at Arsenal and Man City. Are any Spurs players getting in those sides? I don't think so.Brownie12 said:
He probably is. But what do spurs do? - chase the best managers available - Conte, Mourinho, etc, etc and come up short, go for the best manager in a pub league and come up short…it’s been going on for years. Bottom line is top 6 is about right for them. From an outside perspective, the problems are higher up the chain. There best players aren’t up there with Man City’s best players. Arsenal were without 6 or 7 their better players today. Yet most of the replacement players would get in Tottenham’s team.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
Its so easy to blame the manager..2 -
Its not the thread for it I know but if anyone watched that abomination of a performance from Spurs against Coventry's B team in the league cup last night then Ange's is bang in trouble now.JohnBoyUK said:
In my eyes he is.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
There's only so many goals you can conceded the same way without questions being asked.
Granted I was at the wrong end to give an opinion on the goal but Spurs mate watching on tv said Romero and/or Vicario were at fault. If thats the case then thats 4 goals conceeded this season, ALL Romero's fault.
That aside, Spurs has plenty of possession but done nothing. Neither Winger (read Johnson, Son, Werner, Odobert) created a single chance.
Maddison, not his best game granted but why take him off with 10 mins to go? Surely he's the one to unlock a pass? No, lets put another winger on, move Son in the middle then have noone in midfield capable of getting the ball to feed the wingers.
Arsenal defended deep, done everything simple, got the job done. Arteta had them set up perfectly. Saliba and Gabriel excellent, Partey and Jorghino mopped up brilliantly and their front players worked their bollocks off. The perfect away performance.
Got what we deserved, absolutely nothing. That performance stunk the place out given who they were missing.
Ange is under massive pressure now.
Absolute madness making 8 changes from the side that played Arsenal. I realise squad players need a game at times but he changed the total structure of the team and there was no flow, no structure, just god damn awfulness. Coventry made 7 changes from the team that drew with Watford at the weekend and they literally played us off the park a times. How Spurs won that game last night is beyond me.
Ange seems to be a decent human being and is very likeable but the calls for his head are growing by the game.0 -
Probably only Son would contend for a first team start at either City/Arsenal, although Udogie would maybe have a shout at Arsenal as they don't seem to have a settled left back.Kindoncasella said:
I heard someone on TalkSport say that Spurs have a bang average team and a bang average manager. Well any "good" manager needs good players, just look at Arsenal and Man City. Are any Spurs players getting in those sides? I don't think so.Brownie12 said:
He probably is. But what do spurs do? - chase the best managers available - Conte, Mourinho, etc, etc and come up short, go for the best manager in a pub league and come up short…it’s been going on for years. Bottom line is top 6 is about right for them. From an outside perspective, the problems are higher up the chain. There best players aren’t up there with Man City’s best players. Arsenal were without 6 or 7 their better players today. Yet most of the replacement players would get in Tottenham’s team.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
Its so easy to blame the manager..1 -
I realise subbing him off might have been down to managing minutes because of his recent injury, but it seemed weird to play Solanke for 60 minutes with absolutely no service and then when you bring on the players (Son/Maddison/Kulusevski) who are most likely to be able to give him service........you take Solanke off.JohnBoyUK said:
Its not the thread for it I know but if anyone watched that abomination of a performance from Spurs against Coventry's B team in the league cup last night then Ange's is bang in trouble now.JohnBoyUK said:
In my eyes he is.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
There's only so many goals you can conceded the same way without questions being asked.
Granted I was at the wrong end to give an opinion on the goal but Spurs mate watching on tv said Romero and/or Vicario were at fault. If thats the case then thats 4 goals conceeded this season, ALL Romero's fault.
That aside, Spurs has plenty of possession but done nothing. Neither Winger (read Johnson, Son, Werner, Odobert) created a single chance.
Maddison, not his best game granted but why take him off with 10 mins to go? Surely he's the one to unlock a pass? No, lets put another winger on, move Son in the middle then have noone in midfield capable of getting the ball to feed the wingers.
Arsenal defended deep, done everything simple, got the job done. Arteta had them set up perfectly. Saliba and Gabriel excellent, Partey and Jorghino mopped up brilliantly and their front players worked their bollocks off. The perfect away performance.
Got what we deserved, absolutely nothing. That performance stunk the place out given who they were missing.
Ange is under massive pressure now.
Absolute madness making 8 changes from the side that played Arsenal. I realise squad players need a game at times but he changed the total structure of the team and there was no flow, no structure, just god damn awfulness. Coventry made 7 changes from the team that drew with Watford at the weekend and they literally played us off the park a times. How Spurs won that game last night is beyond me.
Ange seems to be a decent human being and is very likeable but the calls for his head are growing by the game.
Very weird team selection as you say.1 -
Sadly, Sonny is in decline. Age is definitely catching up with him. He is more inconsistent than I can remember him being. He'll go 5-6 games without a goal and look like he can't trap a bag of cement (his first touch for the last 18 months has been woeful btw!) and then he'll go and score a brace against Everton, everyone thinks he's back then he'll go missing for 2-3 games again. He was anonymous against Newcastle and Arsenal. He didn't make a difference when he came on last night in all honesty.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Probably only Son would contend for a first team start at either City/Arsenal, although Udogie would maybe have a shout at Arsenal as they don't seem to have a settled left back.Kindoncasella said:
I heard someone on TalkSport say that Spurs have a bang average team and a bang average manager. Well any "good" manager needs good players, just look at Arsenal and Man City. Are any Spurs players getting in those sides? I don't think so.Brownie12 said:
He probably is. But what do spurs do? - chase the best managers available - Conte, Mourinho, etc, etc and come up short, go for the best manager in a pub league and come up short…it’s been going on for years. Bottom line is top 6 is about right for them. From an outside perspective, the problems are higher up the chain. There best players aren’t up there with Man City’s best players. Arsenal were without 6 or 7 their better players today. Yet most of the replacement players would get in Tottenham’s team.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
Its so easy to blame the manager..
He's got a year left on his contract with Spurs having an option to extend it. On current form, its hard to justify extending and he certainly wouldn't get anywhere City or Arsenal's starting XI.0 -
I sometimes think managers are thick. Especially Spurs managers. What do Spurs need, DESPERATELY need? Trophies. And what's their best chance of this? The EFL Cup, a competition which City (and Arsenal) understandably take less seriously. Play a strong team and really take it seriously.
Ten Hag might be an average manager of an average side, but he's delivered 2 trophies and 3 Wembley finals in 2 seasons, which is why he's still in a job.2 -
He scored 17 goals in the PL last season, and scored against all the top 4.JohnBoyUK said:
Sadly, Sonny is in decline. Age is definitely catching up with him. He is more inconsistent than I can remember him being. He'll go 5-6 games without a goal and look like he can't trap a bag of cement (his first touch for the last 18 months has been woeful btw!) and then he'll go and score a brace against Everton, everyone thinks he's back then he'll go missing for 2-3 games again. He was anonymous against Newcastle and Arsenal. He didn't make a difference when he came on last night in all honesty.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Probably only Son would contend for a first team start at either City/Arsenal, although Udogie would maybe have a shout at Arsenal as they don't seem to have a settled left back.Kindoncasella said:
I heard someone on TalkSport say that Spurs have a bang average team and a bang average manager. Well any "good" manager needs good players, just look at Arsenal and Man City. Are any Spurs players getting in those sides? I don't think so.Brownie12 said:
He probably is. But what do spurs do? - chase the best managers available - Conte, Mourinho, etc, etc and come up short, go for the best manager in a pub league and come up short…it’s been going on for years. Bottom line is top 6 is about right for them. From an outside perspective, the problems are higher up the chain. There best players aren’t up there with Man City’s best players. Arsenal were without 6 or 7 their better players today. Yet most of the replacement players would get in Tottenham’s team.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Is Ange getting near the stage where he is on dodgy ground?ValleyGary said:Ange spent all the doe and still can’t defend a corner.
Its so easy to blame the manager..
He's got a year left on his contract with Spurs having an option to extend it. On current form, its hard to justify extending and he certainly wouldn't get anywhere City or Arsenal's starting XI.0 -
I know his goal return shows otherwise, but his performances are just not there. Ask any Spurs fan and they'll tell you the same.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
He scored 17 goals in the PL last season, and scored against all the top 4.JohnBoyUK said:Sadly, Sonny is in decline. Age is definitely catching up with him. He is more inconsistent than I can remember him being. He'll go 5-6 games without a goal and look like he can't trap a bag of cement (his first touch for the last 18 months has been woeful btw!) and then he'll go and score a brace against Everton, everyone thinks he's back then he'll go missing for 2-3 games again. He was anonymous against Newcastle and Arsenal. He didn't make a difference when he came on last night in all honesty.
He's got a year left on his contract with Spurs having an option to extend it. On current form, its hard to justify extending and he certainly wouldn't get anywhere City or Arsenal's starting XI.0 -
Yep, Spurs Hubby has been saying exactly this.JohnBoyUK said:
I know his goal return shows otherwise, but his performances are just not there. Ask any Spurs fan and they'll tell you the same.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
He scored 17 goals in the PL last season, and scored against all the top 4.JohnBoyUK said:Sadly, Sonny is in decline. Age is definitely catching up with him. He is more inconsistent than I can remember him being. He'll go 5-6 games without a goal and look like he can't trap a bag of cement (his first touch for the last 18 months has been woeful btw!) and then he'll go and score a brace against Everton, everyone thinks he's back then he'll go missing for 2-3 games again. He was anonymous against Newcastle and Arsenal. He didn't make a difference when he came on last night in all honesty.
He's got a year left on his contract with Spurs having an option to extend it. On current form, its hard to justify extending and he certainly wouldn't get anywhere City or Arsenal's starting XI.1 -
Lower League defending by West Ham in 1st 20 minutes give Chelsea and Jackson 2 goal lead.0
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Penalty not given to Hammers despite defender holding on to the arm of forward in the box when the attacker would've been clear.0
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Moyes out7
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Decision against West Ham?soapboxsam said:Penalty not given to Hammers despite defender holding on to the arm of forward in the box when the attacker would've been clear.
And thats the correct decision, dont see the problem
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Wet Sham making Jackson look like Mbappe!’0
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Cole Palmer comes alive and makes it 3-00
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Are Chelsea... Good... This season?0
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You jest but I work with 2 dyed in the wool, fanatical West Ham fans and both spent all last season moaning about Moyes and wanting him sacked.MrOneLung said:Moyes out
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I can't see Lopertegui lasting long either.0
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Fire drill for hammers.0
