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  • JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    Van Nistelrooy, not Van Persie
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  • edited September 2
    JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    Isn’t it Van Nistelrooy? Or are they both there?

    Edit: sorry @Ross didn’t see your post.
  • JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    They gave him a new contract!
  • edited September 2
    JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    City screwed their neighbours by losing to them in the FA Cup final, thus saving Ten Hag from the sack  ;)
  • JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    Pretty sure they looked around for a replacement, there was a lot of talk before the cup final he was as good as gone. 

    Then they won and it became awkward, but instead of looking back at how the previous 2 league seasons went, the fact they'd slumped to 8th, and how they somehow still have no noticeable style of play after 2 years they let a one off win in the cup final rule their heads and kept him.
  • Ross said:
    JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    Van Nistelrooy, not Van Persie
    thanks, got my Vans in a twist
  • JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    City screwed their neighbours by losing to them in the FA Cup final, thus saving Ten Hag from the sack  ;)
    part of Pep's master plan ?
  • as ten Haag said, only City have won more than him since he got there.
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  • MrOneLung said:
    as ten Haag said, only City have won more than him since he got there.
    And yet they finished 8th, the lowest they've finished since 1990, and suffered their joint heaviest defeat ever under his tenure, to rivals Liverpool no less. 

    More wins than anyone else other than Man City means fuck all if you're losing almost all the other games
  • not wins, meant won more silverware than anyone else
  • sam3110 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    as ten Haag said, only City have won more than him since he got there.
    And yet they finished 8th, the lowest they've finished since 1990, and suffered their joint heaviest defeat ever under his tenure, to rivals Liverpool no less. 

    More wins than anyone else other than Man City means fuck all if you're losing almost all the other games
    It's a good debate though.

    Would you rather be United who despite their shortcomings in the league and regular hammerings by both City and Liverpool, have won 2 trophies in 2 seasons.
    Or Arsenal who are widely praised for their football and challenging City in the last 2 years but have won nothing.
  • I think you'd rather be an Arsenal fan at the moment, the side is younger, playing better and all in a more modern stadium under a younger, more progressive head coach. 

    Sides this big are expected to win a domestic cup every couple of years, it's nothing new to them (unlike someone like Newcastle or Aston Villa winning it as they haven't as often in recent history) 

    The biggest things are the domestic league and the Champions League, they've been nowhere near either for a while, at least as an Arsenal fan you've believed you might actually win the league instead of finishing 8th and scraping into a lesser European competition through a cup win
  • Ross said:
    JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    Van Nistelrooy, not Van Persie
    I can't help but think he was brought in ready to be a Solskjaer style interim if needed. 
  • sam3110 said:
    I think you'd rather be an Arsenal fan at the moment, the side is younger, playing better and all in a more modern stadium under a younger, more progressive head coach. 

    Sides this big are expected to win a domestic cup every couple of years, it's nothing new to them (unlike someone like Newcastle or Aston Villa winning it as they haven't as often in recent history) 

    The biggest things are the domestic league and the Champions League, they've been nowhere near either for a while, at least as an Arsenal fan you've believed you might actually win the league instead of finishing 8th and scraping into a lesser European competition through a cup win
    I tend to agree with you on Arsenal right now if you consider everything overall, but i can also see the case for preferring trophies, as surely that's what football is about.

    In years to come United fans will look back fondly at the day they beat City to win the cup, but surely no Arsenal fan looks back and says 'remember when we challenged City'.
  • JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    City screwed their neighbours by losing to them in the FA Cup final, thus saving Ten Hag from the sack  ;)
    Funny how things go sometimes - United blew a 3-0 lead against a Championship side in the semi final, if they'd have lost that penalty shootout then Teg Hag was done.

    One good game in the final shouldn't have saved a whole season for him - it should have rang alarm bells that he couldn't get them playing anywhere near as effectively the rest of the season.

    I think the fact that not many other obvious choices (Tuchel or Pochettino were the obvious ones I guess) were out of work saved him but I don't think he'll last much longer.

    I'd worry if I was a United fan that they'll try to go back in for Southgate though!


  • edited September 3
    sam3110 said:
    I think you'd rather be an Arsenal fan at the moment, the side is younger, playing better and all in a more modern stadium under a younger, more progressive head coach. 

    Sides this big are expected to win a domestic cup every couple of years, it's nothing new to them (unlike someone like Newcastle or Aston Villa winning it as they haven't as often in recent history) 

    The biggest things are the domestic league and the Champions League, they've been nowhere near either for a while, at least as an Arsenal fan you've believed you might actually win the league instead of finishing 8th and scraping into a lesser European competition through a cup win
    I tend to agree with you on Arsenal right now if you consider everything overall, but i can also see the case for preferring trophies, as surely that's what football is about.

    In years to come United fans will look back fondly at the day they beat City to win the cup, but surely no Arsenal fan looks back and says 'remember when we challenged City'.
    I am sure Sheffield Wednesday and Sheffield United both look back fondly of challenging us for the title in 2011/12 😉 
  • JaShea99 said:
    This is brilliant. Ten Hag next manager to be sacked?
    how he wasn't sacked in the summer is a mystery, possibly the cost of sacking him ? .. now he has gone treble Dutch, Van Persie as 'coach'  and Dutch central defender and striker, all as useless as chocolate clogs ..
    I do wonder though if any manager regarded as 'big enough' for the Man U job is prepared to take on and sort out the current mess ..
    However, Man U have their moments, e.g. FA Cup final last year, but moments are not good enough when days and months are what is needed
    City screwed their neighbours by losing to them in the FA Cup final, thus saving Ten Hag from the sack  ;)
    Funny how things go sometimes - United blew a 3-0 lead against a Championship side in the semi final, if they'd have lost that penalty shootout then Teg Hag was done.

    One good game in the final shouldn't have saved a whole season for him - it should have rang alarm bells that he couldn't get them playing anywhere near as effectively the rest of the season.

    I think the fact that not many other obvious choices (Tuchel or Pochettino were the obvious ones I guess) were out of work saved him but I don't think he'll last much longer.

    I'd worry if I was a United fan that they'll try to go back in for Southgate though!


    Oh Southgate to Utd would make my year !!!
  • I doubt Utd would touch Southgate.  I doubt any club in the top half of the PL would touch Southgate tbh.
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  • You'd think not but he was linked a lot in the spring, sometimes no smoke without fire etc.
  • Surely if they do sack ETH, their next manager is nailed on to be Van Nistelrooy given he's a fan favourite and already on the payroll.
  • JohnBoyUK said:
    I doubt Utd would touch Southgate.  I doubt any club in the top half of the PL would touch Southgate tbh.
    More of them would appoint Southgate than Ten Hag though!
  • edited September 3
    Chelsea bought a teenage winger last year for 13m. Didn't play a game for them. Loaned him to Strasbourg, 24 games, 0 goals. Just sold him to Saudi for 19m! 
  • Chelsea bought a teenage winger last year for 13m. Didn't play a game for them. Loaned him to Strasbourg, 24 games, 0 goals. Just sold him to Saudi for 19m! 
    FFP my arse! Just sticking two fingers up to the Premier League.
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cze52y18zrro

    Newcastle squad defender Jamal Lewis going on loan to Sao Paulo has to be one of the weirdest transfers of the summer.
  • Leicester have found a loophole for PSR and won't be deducted any points. 

    If I understand it correctly, even though they went beyond the allowed spending, as they were in the championship when the PL charged them, they cannot be charged. 
  • Leicester have found a loophole for PSR and won't be deducted any points. 

    If I understand it correctly, even though they went beyond the allowed spending, as they were in the championship when the PL charged them, they cannot be charged. 
    Absolute nonsense rules. They were a PL club during the 3 year period in which they were over the loss limit, but because they were in the championship by the time they were charged, they get away with it.
  • They were relegate at the end of May, so lost there Premiership share at that point. The accounts we submitted in June when they were a Championship Club, so not subject to the Prem rules at that point.
    As a relegated team they are allowed losses of £83 million over 3 years which would include the accounts submitted in June as mentioned above.
    Now it would look they would breech Championship spending restrictions, but of Course when promoted at the end of the season they are no longer Subject EFL rules and so will avoid action from them.
  • Just get rid of FFP. It only serves to help the big clubs.
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