Israeli football fans attacked in Amsterdam

Everyone should just be nice to each other.

killerandflash said:

AFKABartram said:

Just wish politics, religion etc could stay completely out of football / sport. 

Life just seems to increasingly jumping on a train to division, wished sport could be a sanctuary from that. 

As Scoham replied above, Israel and Israeli clubs wouldn't be competing in European competitions if it wasn't for politics. 

Indeed I've sometimes wondered whether Israel playing in Asia again might help the situation. You wouldn't make the change now obviously, and yes Israel vs Iran would be horrendously tense, but maybe it would have started the process towards reconciliation and a slight normalisation of the relations of the countries of the region. After all Ireland and N Ireland aren't prevented from playing each other, ditto North and South Korea.

Every match would have to be in a neutral venue though. Many Arab countries citizens cannot enter into Israel.

Clem_Snide said:

Whole thing seems bizarre. Aren't Ajax supposed to have Jewish roots as a club? I am sure their fans adopted the Star of David to recognise that?

What does that have to do with anything ? Zionist football hooligans were in Holland kicking off and causing trouble.... its nothing to do with people being Jewish! 

se9addick said:

Everyone should just be nice to each other.

Bollocks 🖕

The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks. 

Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.  

There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental 

Violence at football matches is reprehensible.  But antisemitic, racist violence is several degrees worse.  Anyone involved - and anyone condoning it - should be thoroughly ashamed.  

I have avoided wading through the reports of what went on, for fear of coming across people either excusing it or inciting revenge.  But I thought this call to Nick Ferrari was quite interesting.  You have to scroll forward to 2hr 55min.  But it's worth doing so and listening to the whole call (three or four minutes), just to hear "Ali" from London embarrassing himself.   

https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episodes/2zGyG6qA6tETzknnL4cjuAu4HT/ 

"What was the score, Ali?"

Braziliance said:

The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks. 

Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.  

There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental 

OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?

shine166 said:

Braziliance said:

The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks. 

Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.  

There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental 

OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?

If you think innocent Jewish people, aren't the victims of hate crimes on a day to day basis. I genuinely don't know what to tell you. 

Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc? 

shine166 said:

Braziliance said:

The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks. 

Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.  

There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental 

OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?

Here you go, just one example found within 10 seconds of twitter searching 

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1854749301630472584?t=Cq3HwpHSZXXfrvwvYptKng&s=19

On the streets of Amsterdam, tourists are being asked to show their passports where they are from, to prevent being attacked. 

some reports say that on the metro before the game, Macabi fans were walking through the carriages 'looking for trouble' .. this whole situation might not be as clear cut as it first appears .. this is taken from a BBC report .. QUOTE: Maccabi supporters attacked a taxi and set a Palestinian flag on fire. There are also reports of supporters chanting racist slogans about Arabs UNQUOTE

Lincsaddick said:

some reports say that on the metro before the game, Macabi fans were walking through the carriages 'looking for trouble' .. this whole situation might not be as clear cut as it first appears .. this is taken from a BBC report .. QUOTE: Maccabi supporters attacked a taxi and set a Palestinian flag on fire. There are also reports of supporters chanting racist slogans about Arabs UNQUOTE

That doesn't fit the narrative and also is likely to open you up to accusations of "condoning" or "excusing" antisemitism.  The most bloodthirsty expressions of outrage are designed to shut down any possibility of debate.

PopIcon said:

Braziliance said:

The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks. 

Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.  

There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental 

The match in Turkey against BeSiktas is being played at a neural venue. That was announced before last nights shit.

That's fine. 

There are still people on social media who don't know that, and are celebrating the fixture in hope of their being violence against Jews and getting tens of thousands of likes making these types of posts

Braziliance said:

Here's another for you 

https://x.com/MoroccanZionist/status/1854698423418515561?t=abvq6Xs4bbY-kMUUUby1Tw&s=19

Seems like really appropriate behaviour

Oh man, that is so staged.

shine166 said:

Braziliance said:

shine166 said:

Braziliance said:

The more worrying thing for me, is the celebrations of the attacks, and the amount of retweets and likes on post over the attacks. 

Some fans are even saying they can't wait for them to play against Besiktas. So for those that think this wouldn't have happened unprovoked, it probably would have happened irrespective.  

There's some serious issues atm with this. It's essentially cool and edgy to be anti-semitic among a lot of people now. It's mental 

OR... fans want to do the same to zionists after seeing what they did ? nothing ive seen, shows this would have happened anyway. WTF were the mossad agents going to contribute to the situation other than agro ?

If you think innocent Jewish people, aren't the victims of hate crimes on a day to day basis. I genuinely don't know what to tell you. 

Do you genuinely believe that every single Tel Aviv fan that was attacked last night, was participating in Anti-Palestine chants etc? 

I mean, there's misinterpreting people's posts and there's what you've just done. 

If it makes you feel better, it was all pre planned and the Israel fans were all victims. 

Explain to me what you meant then. 

It also wouldn't make me feel better, as I condemn any fan inciting violence on any other football fan. 

My posts are centred around the fact that, 

- A professional player, has encouraged attacks on football fans 

- there are people in Amsterdam purposely searching for people to attack them if they're Jewish, there's multiple videos proving this. 

- People on social media are celebrating these events and wanting to see more of it.

I notice none of the articles state "vile Muslim-hating, Palestine flag burning, genocide-supporting Maccabi fans get their comeuppance" 

Funny that...