ETIAS - EU Travel Document required for entry into EU from early 2025

ShootersHillGuru said:

Anyone got an inside track on this. I remember when you just got waved through. 🤦🏻‍♂️

From the EU website :

When filling out the application, you will be asked to provide the following information:

• Personal information including your name(s), surname, date and place of birth, nationality, home address, parents’ first names, email address and phone number;
• Travel document details;
• Details about your level of education and current occupation;
• Details about your intended travel and stay in any of the countries requiring ETIAS;
• Details about any criminal convictions, any past travels to war or conflict zones, and whether you have recently been subject of a decision requiring you to leave the territory of any country.

You will need to declare that the data you submit and the statements you make are correct. You will also need to confirm that you understand the entry conditions to the territories of the European countries requiring ETIAS and that you may be requested to provide the relevant supporting documents each time you cross the external border.

https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias/what-you-need-apply_en

https://www.abta.com/tips-and-advice/planning-and-booking-a-holiday/upcoming-changes-travel-europe

What’s the point of having a parent’s first name without having the surname as well ? I would guess, without reference to any actual data, that half the UK population may not share the same surname as one or both of their parents (marriage, or parents not being married, or children born in or to parents from a country that has different naming traditions, or deed poll changes) so having the first name would be a bit pointless on its own.

In the US, the esta is valid for two years and you have to have a new esta every time you renew your passport. They have been doing facial recognition and taking your fingerprints for as long as I can remember. The reality of this doesn’t sound much different. 

stop_shouting said:

In the US, the esta is valid for two years and you have to have a new esta every time you renew your passport. They have been doing facial recognition and taking your fingerprints for as long as I can remember. The reality of this doesn’t sound much different. 

How long does it take to get through U.S. border control?

Bournemouth Addick said:

I wouldn't read too much into the requirement to provide a fingerprint instead of/as well as a photo. I don't know but I think it's intended to be a form of initial two factor authentication and wouldn't expect is to be used in crime detection. Don't know why it's limited to 3 years but suspect that's the limit without it being linked to an offence maybe?

God almighty it takes me ages to get into my phone sometimes 

ME14addick said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

JamesSeed said:

Huskaris said:

I love how excited people get about their lives becoming worse in the most miniscule of ways, just so they can say "I told you so" 

Grown people, pathetic 

Trust us, we’re not excited at all, just displeased/angry, mainly with the people who lied to us, rather than the people who believed them. 

Oh there’s definitely a few that can’t wait to hit the copy and paste with their nonsense 

What is the nonsense you're referring to? If you are going to make a statement like that, you need to put forward a counter argument and provide evidence.

Read the thread and any other thread with the most tenuous link possible and you’ll see exactly what I mean. 

ME14addick said:

It's at ports like Dover where this will have the biggest impact, as at busy times there's limited space. Eurotunnel has been installing many booths where fingerprints can be taken and your data input. The cost of this is likely to be passed onto travellers.

The EU is protecting its borders and ensuring that visitors from a third country like the UK, don't stay in the country longer than is allowed. 

To be fair they do that already when they stamp your passports. You are not waved through anymore. We found this only applies when travelling from the UK to an EU country and back. When you are in the EU you are waved through if there is a border. In many cases you are driving on a road and one second you are in one country and the next you are in another. They know currently how long you are in the Shengen area.

MuttleyCAFC said:

ME14addick said:

It's at ports like Dover where this will have the biggest impact, as at busy times there's limited space. Eurotunnel has been installing many booths where fingerprints can be taken and your data input. The cost of this is likely to be passed onto travellers.

The EU is protecting its borders and ensuring that visitors from a third country like the UK, don't stay in the country longer than is allowed. 

To be fair they do that already when they stamp your passports. You are not waved through anymore. We found this only applies when travelling from the UK to an EU country and back. When you are in the EU you are waved through if there is a border. In many cases you are driving on a road and one second you are in one country and the next you are in another. They know currently how long you are in the Shengen area.

Stamping of passports does take longer than the days when you could just wave your EU passport at passport control, with minimum delay. If it only takes a minute longer to process a car full of passengers, by stamping each passport, when you multiply that by the number of vehicles passing through Dover, it can increase the waiting time considerably.

With the new biometric checks, the plan is to have tablet type devices handed into the vehicle, so each passenger can register their details. This will take much longer than it used to, hence the need to expand the facilities at Dover and the need to store HGVs if the queues become too long.

Lorry parks should have been built to take the HGVs off the roads completely, instead we have crazy Operation Brock which cannot be implemented quickly, as it necessitates closing the M20 all night in both directions between junctions 8 & 9 (Maidstone to Ashford). It is often put in place for several weeks in case of need, most of the time it isn't needed. When Brock is in place there are frequent delays, as the reduced number of lanes creates problems if there is a breakdown or accident within the contraflow area.