POST-MATCH THREAD: Bolton Wanderers v Charlton Athletic: Tuesday 21st January 2025: KO 19:45

Bolton manager leaves after 4 years.

KBslittlesis said:

I only listen to audio.
There was a bit in the second half where Charlotte and Brownie were going on about the ‘should have been a second yellow’ incident and I would agree it was annoying as I actually shouted, ‘what about the game?’ lol.
But it would appear some actually watch the game and don’t really ‘watch it’. I mean I’ve just read on here that someone actually didn’t think Matete even stamped on Smalls leg and that it wasn’t intentional 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
You could tell as soon as it happened from Brownies reaction something horrible had happened and then when he saw the replay his words were enough for me to keep searching socials until I found the clip.
If you don’t believe the words of an ex professional then there is no hope for you.

I take it you are referring to me re the "stamping" issue.

I did see it.....just thought he stood on his leg rather than "stamp" on it. Yes it was probably intentional but it wasn't forceful. 

But that is just my opinion. Like arseholes, we all have them. 

golfaddick said:

KBslittlesis said:

I only listen to audio.
There was a bit in the second half where Charlotte and Brownie were going on about the ‘should have been a second yellow’ incident and I would agree it was annoying as I actually shouted, ‘what about the game?’ lol.
But it would appear some actually watch the game and don’t really ‘watch it’. I mean I’ve just read on here that someone actually didn’t think Matete even stamped on Smalls leg and that it wasn’t intentional 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
You could tell as soon as it happened from Brownies reaction something horrible had happened and then when he saw the replay his words were enough for me to keep searching socials until I found the clip.
If you don’t believe the words of an ex professional then there is no hope for you.

I take it you are referring to me re the "stamping" issue.

I did see it.....just thought he stood on his leg rather than "stamp" on it. Yes it was probably intentional but it wasn't forceful. 

But that is just my opinion. Like arseholes, we all have them. 

To me, it looked as though he put his full body weight on Small's Achilles. I'd describe it as a tread rather than a stamp or just standing, but either way, it's semantics. It's clearly intentional and obviously dangerous, so it would have been flagged by the referee had he seen it and would most likely have resulted in a red card imo.

soapboxsam said:

Garrymanilow said:

Shame that, Bolton have a good squad but they were guaranteed not to go up under Evatt. This will make them a top 6 threat again. Let’s hope they’ve still got to play lots of the other teams we need to catch up on 

See Oohaah post above:

Same thing happened with Mark Robins at Coventry, after their penalty shoot out defeat, it's hard to replicate after losing a Play off final compared to when Sunderland lost to the mighty Mendonca inspired CAFC. Phillips stayed whereas Viktor Gyokeres went to Sporting and could soon be at Man United ?

Ian Evatt comes across as aggressive and full of sour grapes compared to the quieter Robins. 
For two seasons under Evatt, Bolton were the best 3rd tier side to come to the Valley; 4-1 and 2-1 winners and were so strong. It feels that he has lost his mojo but I was impressed how many players they used to get in and around the box when attacking. 
The 2-0 defeat to Oxford at Wembley deflated the whole club and the fans relationship with Evatt took a turn for the worse.
This season, after that defeat, a different story and Bolton were a shadow of their selves at the Valley when we negated them and they just had two weak shots at goal. 

Evatt is such an unlikeable person too, he seems to have lost the plot this season.

Astounded anyone could have seen the stamp on small and think it wasn’t forceful. 

arny23394 said:

Astounded anyone could have seen the stamp on small and think it wasn’t forceful. 

It wasn't a stamp though. Still a seding off offense.

Anyone got a link to the stamp for those who haven't seen it?

Cafctekkers said:

Anyone got a link to the stamp for those who haven't seen it?

https://x.com/CafcJake/status/1881819811669516719

Reckon there's enough call for retrospective action there. -

Violent Conduct or Serious Foul Play: If the referee and match officials fail to see an incident during the game but it is caught on video and deemed to warrant a red card (e.g., violent conduct, stamping, or elbowing), the FA can review the footage and issue a suspension.

I hope NJ's gamble on everybody's fitness has paid off
If any of his preferred starting XI gets an issue, he needs a Plan B or at least Plan A.2
Sadly Mitchell's performances are declining to the depths of pub-clogger-got-lucky Gillesphey who was terrifying throughout with the ball at his feet in his own half, he can barely head the ball either, which does at least seem to be in Mitchell's skill set.  Jones's goal owed much to Bolton's defensive weakness, with makeshift centre halves, MG's "assist" in no way balances how dreadful he is at the back.
Always pleasing to win, doubly pleasing to come from behind - when did that last happen?
Bolton had the better for just over half of what was a game of poor standard, lots of misplaced passes by two poor sides.
AMB kept us in it first half.
Bolton's goal looked efficient but that was their only real highlight, most of their attacking play came from our defensive inadequacy.
A special mention for the referee - making the rules up as he went along, no consistency and with not sending off Thomason, Miles threw the rulebook out completely.
Thomason's first booking was obvious and absolutely justified.  He repeated the offense moments later in very similar fashion and he clearly expected to walk but, no, Miles gave him a long talking to.  Whether or not losing him at that stage would have made Charlton's job harder can only be guessed.
The stamp on Small's leg happened a little while after he was initially bundled over, so it's hard to imagine what else referee Miles was looking at.
It's just about plausible he missed it but what were his "assistants" watching?  Another red card wrongly not given.
That was very late on but it wouldn't have made Bolton's task any easier.
"we won the game, what are you complaining about, blah, blah?"  misses the point - Bolton should now be contending with two players suspended.  Miles's choices have skewed things for the rest of the division.  If we end up 7th behind Bolton by a point or on goal difference come 3rd May how will you all feel?  These things don't even out over a season. Woeful officials like Miles undermine the competition as a whole.
The pace of TC and TS remains our key weapon, 4 or 5 decent crosses per match should provide sufficient ammunition against the defenders in this shitty division.

Gribbo said:

fenaddick said:

Cafctekkers said:

Anyone got a link to the stamp for those who haven't seen it?

https://x.com/CafcJake/status/1881819811669516719

Even worse than I remembered.

It's a stamp, followed by obvious prolonged pressure, a bit like stamping out a cigarette. All completely intentional and unnecessary, as it weren’t like he was trying to play the ball.

Clearly a first class stamp.

aliwibble said:

Well, it wasn't a great game, but the subs definitely made a difference, and we did well to hang on to the win. The match thread was definitely somewhat manic depressive, epitomised by @WillmoreTheRed who wins the "Weathervane of the Match Thread award for going from this at 9:13pm

WillmoreTheRed said:

I’m done with this, not even going to bother with the rest of the home games I’ve got on my ST. 

I have no want to watch us play mediocre football and finish 13th again.

to this at 9:20pm (just after Jones scored)

WillmoreTheRed said:

Fine I’ll go Saturday….

and then this 9:35 after Anderson scored.

WillmoreTheRed said:

Can we renew our season tickets yet?

while the "Barefaced Cheek of the Night" award goes to @Athletico Charlton for the shameless attempt at rewriting history here:

Athletico Charlton said:

Athletico Charlton said:

You bunch of moaners.
Reckon we win this 1-2 with a goal from Jones (maybe even an unlikely Gillesphy assist) then a winner near the end from Anderson.
Mark my words.

Don't wanna boast but I called this way back on page 21.

given that he edited said post on p21 at 9:37pm

I never win anything so I’m very happy.

I wondered why we didn't play in our normal home red kit yesterday, it seemed it may have worked better than the dark shorts clashing ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc6oCQ4o6Jc