Funny how every single other League 1 side (bar 1) can sign a player without having to wait for other teams to do their business first so that they can release a player to us.
Funny how every single other League 1 side (bar 1) can sign a player without having to wait for other teams to do their business first so that they can release a player to us.
Don't worry, people seem excited that we are now finding ways to get rid of the poor signings we shouldn't have made in the first place and giving credit for it.
They've got a few days, but other than Lloyd Jones extension, this has been tragic. If we don't sign a player I'll be miffed.
Funny how every single other League 1 side (bar 1) can sign a player without having to wait for other teams to do their business first so that they can release a player to us.
Don't worry, people seem excited that we are now finding ways to get rid of the poor signings we shouldn't have made in the first place and giving credit for it.
They've got a few days, but other than Lloyd Jones extension, this has been tragic. If we don't sign a player I'll be miffed.
If it was necessary to clear out some unwanted players to balance the budget, and then have to wait in order to get the right players and the right price, the it’s absolutely the right thing to be doing. Good transfer business is always about getting the right players for the right price. Not just any old players for whatever the asking price is. We’ve signed players for the sake of it too often and they rarely pay off. And all clubs, except maybe Man City, have a budget and have to manage ins and outs within that budget. The club is, unfortunately, operating in reality not in some fan’s fantasy. It’s not like results have been suffering while we wait.
Time will tell what business we do and how good it is, but just because we haven’t signed anyone it doesn’t mean we’re messing the transfer window up. There’s still several day left, judge it when it’s done.
Also, everyone always assume that every signing another team makes works out, but just because some of these other clubs have done lots of business doesn’t mean they’ve signed good players that will improve them.
This window is starting to feel very Roland-esque, governed spreadsheet wise by squad numbers meaning we can’t bring a player in until we offload one like Brandon Hanson or Mikhail Kennedy to some non-league club
I think the players gone are certainly the right ones AFKA, and if we do bring one or two in then I want to be the right ones, by that I mean players who are a cut above what we have, not players who were nowhere near their respective first team's, such as Ladapo and Bakinson, both had seen better days and unlikely to see them again.
Bakinson has made 18 appearances for promotion chasing Wycombe btw…
Every team has weak links. Josh Parker made 10 appearances for us when we got promoted. Wouldn't have Bakinson back and 18 appearances for Wycombe doesn't change that.
I thought that Bakinson was a better option than Allan Campbell but neither were a step up from where we were, water carriers, not players who will influence the game.
If it was necessary to clear out some unwanted players to balance the budget, and then have to wait in order to get the right players and the right price, the it’s absolutely the right thing to be doing. Good transfer business is always about getting the right players for the right price. Not just any old players for whatever the asking price is. We’ve signed players for the sake of it too often and they rarely pay off. And all clubs, except maybe Man City, have a budget and have to manage ins and outs within that budget. The club is, unfortunately, operating in reality not in some fan’s fantasy. It’s not like results have been suffering while we wait.
Time will tell what business we do and how good it is, but just because we haven’t signed anyone it doesn’t mean we’re messing the transfer window up. There’s still several day left, judge it when it’s done.
Also, everyone always assume that every signing another team makes works out, but just because some of these other clubs have done lots of business doesn’t mean they’ve signed good players that will improve them.
It's quite a contrast between this January and last January, when we hadn't won a game for ages but were making multiple signings (Coventry, Gillesphey, Edmonds-Green, Ramsay). This year we're doing better on the pitch, but haven't brought anyone in – it would definitely be a missed opportunity not to do that when we're in a good position to make a play-off push.
If it was necessary to clear out some unwanted players to balance the budget, and then have to wait in order to get the right players and the right price, the it’s absolutely the right thing to be doing. Good transfer business is always about getting the right players for the right price. Not just any old players for whatever the asking price is. We’ve signed players for the sake of it too often and they rarely pay off. And all clubs, except maybe Man City, have a budget and have to manage ins and outs within that budget. The club is, unfortunately, operating in reality not in some fan’s fantasy. It’s not like results have been suffering while we wait.
Time will tell what business we do and how good it is, but just because we haven’t signed anyone it doesn’t mean we’re messing the transfer window up. There’s still several day left, judge it when it’s done.
Also, everyone always assume that every signing another team makes works out, but just because some of these other clubs have done lots of business doesn’t mean they’ve signed good players that will improve them.
Quality not quantity.
Exactly. Last year Carlisle were held up as a great example of getting lots of signings done early in January in contrast to Charlton.
They were relegated and look like doing the same this year.
L Jones is a significant signing and, so far, we've not lost Small, Leaburn or anyone else vital despite many saying that they were bound to be sold.
Our previous windows under this regime have been poor to mixed and yes, this window has been as much as correcting previous mistakes than actually strengthening but the window isn't closed yet.
We can wait until the end of the window to can judge if we are stronger or not or we can go over and over the same ground, whinging as we go.
This window is starting to feel very Roland-esque, governed spreadsheet wise by squad numbers meaning we can’t bring a player in until we offload one like Brandon Hanson or Mikhail Kennedy to some non-league club
I think the players gone are certainly the right ones AFKA, and if we do bring one or two in then I want to be the right ones, by that I mean players who are a cut above what we have, not players who were nowhere near their respective first team's, such as Ladapo and Bakinson, both had seen better days and unlikely to see them again.
Bakinson has made 18 appearances for promotion chasing Wycombe btw…
Every team has weak links. Josh Parker made 10 appearances for us when we got promoted. Wouldn't have Bakinson back and 18 appearances for Wycombe doesn't change that.
I thought that Bakinson was a better option than Allan Campbell but neither were a step up from where we were, water carriers, not players who will influence the game.
'Water carriers' are important player's in midfield.
If Alan Campbell was a 'water carrier' for Cafc, then the rest of our players died of thirst !
Should we be receptive to cash in by possibly selling Miles now, whilst he is still in contract? He has so much potential but we need an effective striker this month and onwards. Should we be gambling potential against using the funds to buy an older finished product?.
Admittedly its all a bit theoretical currently as I wouldn't imagine we would be getting big offers while he is in a quiet patch, unless a big club is prepared to gamble to buy that potential.
Should we be receptive to possibly selling Miles now, whilst he is still in contract? He has so much potential but we need an effective striker this month and onwards. Should we be gambling potential against using the funds to buy a finished product?.
Admittedly it’s all a bit theoretical currently as I wouldn't imagine we would be getting big offers while he is in a quiet patch, unless a big club is prepared to gamble to buy that potential.
If scouts have been watching him since his return then I’m pretty sure his last game will have confirmed that they need to keep tabs til the end of the season before making an offer - jury still very much out in my opinion
I genuinely don't understand people who are pissed off with us clearing out the dead wood this year and not throwing money at signings when we're finding form on the pitch.
Yes we have a gap in our midfield for someone, but the team is gelling and a quality midfielder isn't someone you just pick up at your local Tesco.
The club is damned if they do and damned if they don't with this fan base. We've had plenty of January's where we've picked up 5 or 6 players of dubious quality/fit. Seems a bit like people would prefer that to getting rid of dead wood and working with what we have?
Should we be receptive to possibly selling Miles now, whilst he is still in contract? He has so much potential but we need an effective striker this month and onwards. Should we be gambling potential against using the funds to buy a finished product?.
Admittedly it’s all a bit theoretical currently as I wouldn't imagine we would be getting big offers while he is in a quiet patch, unless a big club is prepared to gamble to buy that potential.
If scouts have been watching him since his return then I’m pretty sure his last game will have confirmed that they need to keep tabs til the end of the season before making an offer - jury still very much out in my opinion
Should we be receptive to cash in by possibly selling Miles now, whilst he is still in contract? He has so much potential but we need an effective striker this month and onwards. Should we be gambling potential against using the funds to buy an older finished product?.
Admittedly its all a bit theoretical currently as I wouldn't imagine we would be getting big offers while he is in a quiet patch, unless a big club is prepared to gamble to buy that potential.
I think he goes in the summer, I only realised recently that his contract doesn't expire until the summer of 2026. Personally think he has great ability in certain areas but also glaring weaknesses that will hold him back if he doesn't address them. If we can consistently get the Godden from Tuesday night I don't think Miles will get in the team often anyway so should a big offer come in I'd consider it IF we can replace him with what you described.
Should we be receptive to cash in by possibly selling Miles now, whilst he is still in contract? He has so much potential but we need an effective striker this month and onwards. Should we be gambling potential against using the funds to buy an older finished product?.
Admittedly its all a bit theoretical currently as I wouldn't imagine we would be getting big offers while he is in a quiet patch, unless a big club is prepared to gamble to buy that potential.
I think he goes in the summer, I only realised recently that his contract doesn't expire until the summer of 2026. Personally think he has great ability in certain areas but also glaring weaknesses that will hold him back if he doesn't address them. If we can consistently get the Godden from Tuesday night I don't think Miles will get in the team often anyway so should a big offer come in I'd consider it IF we can replace him with what you described.
What do you see as Leaburn’s glaring weakness? I’d say he’s more well rounded than most young strikers, and it’s more a case of consistency with his hold up play and doing better in the air considering his height, and improving little things like getting that bit fitter, adding a bit more aggression at times, none of which is unusual for a young player.
It’ll be interesting to see if Godden can keep his place. I think there will be games when we need more physicality up front, and Leaburn at some point will grab a goal or two and show why there’s not much between them.
If it was necessary to clear out some unwanted players to balance the budget, and then have to wait in order to get the right players and the right price, the it’s absolutely the right thing to be doing. Good transfer business is always about getting the right players for the right price. Not just any old players for whatever the asking price is. We’ve signed players for the sake of it too often and they rarely pay off. And all clubs, except maybe Man City, have a budget and have to manage ins and outs within that budget. The club is, unfortunately, operating in reality not in some fan’s fantasy. It’s not like results have been suffering while we wait.
Time will tell what business we do and how good it is, but just because we haven’t signed anyone it doesn’t mean we’re messing the transfer window up. There’s still several day left, judge it when it’s done.
Also, everyone always assume that every signing another team makes works out, but just because some of these other clubs have done lots of business doesn’t mean they’ve signed good players that will improve them.
Quality not quantity.
Exactly. Last year Carlisle were held up as a great example of getting lots of signings done early in January in contrast to Charlton.
They were relegated and look like doing the same this year.
L Jones is a significant signing and, so far, we've not lost Small, Leaburn or anyone else vital despite many saying that they were bound to be sold.
Our previous windows under this regime have been poor to mixed and yes, this window has been as much as correcting previous mistakes than actually strengthening but the window isn't closed yet.
We can wait until the end of the window to can judge if we are stronger or not or we can go over and over the same ground, whinging as we go.
I'll go for the former.
Or Rotherham this season. They'd signed 10 players by 1st July and it was a list of known L1 players. Currently 14th. We definitely need to bring in some additional players but there's time and given that we've won 6 of our last 8 league games I don't think the delay has caused us too much harm in the transfer window
Hope we get the lad from Boro on loan. Their fans on twitter saying he is way too good for league 1 and should be given a chance for them in the champ
They are just half the ingredients that are required.
Being motivated for L1/League below is another story. We've had this from Arter to Allan Campbell, aswell as several 'short term' signings.
I've learnt the hard way; to judge come match day and beyond.
To be fair to NJ, that is something that he genuinely is pretty good at spotting/instilling in players. Quality is debatable maybe over some signings but even in the bad patch I can't recall any players coasting along Gunther/Matthews style just picking up a paycheck for minimum effort.
I genuinely don't understand people who are pissed off with us clearing out the dead wood this year and not throwing money at signings when we're finding form on the pitch.
Yes we have a gap in our midfield for someone, but the team is gelling and a quality midfielder isn't someone you just pick up at your local Tesco.
The club is damned if they do and damned if they don't with this fan base. We've had plenty of January's where we've picked up 5 or 6 players of dubious quality/fit. Seems a bit like people would prefer that to getting rid of dead wood and working with what we have?
The issue I have is that most of the dead wood being cleared out this month only joined us in the summer, these are players that should have helped improve the squad and they didn't. We're now light and a potential key injury or 2 away from derailing all our recent good work.
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Funny how every single other League 1 side (bar 1) can sign a player without having to wait for other teams to do their business first so that they can release a player to us.
They've got a few days, but other than Lloyd Jones extension, this has been tragic. If we don't sign a player I'll be miffed.
Time will tell what business we do and how good it is, but just because we haven’t signed anyone it doesn’t mean we’re messing the transfer window up. There’s still several day left, judge it when it’s done.
They were relegated and look like doing the same this year.
L Jones is a significant signing and, so far, we've not lost Small, Leaburn or anyone else vital despite many saying that they were bound to be sold.
Our previous windows under this regime have been poor to mixed and yes, this window has been as much as correcting previous mistakes than actually strengthening but the window isn't closed yet.
We can wait until the end of the window to can judge if we are stronger or not or we can go over and over the same ground, whinging as we go.
I'll go for the former.
'Water carriers' are important player's in midfield.
If Alan Campbell was a 'water carrier' for Cafc, then the rest of our players died of thirst !
Very little information is being released by the club, and Nathan Jones is now keeping his cards very close to his chest.
What a change from previous windows when everyone and their dog knew who we were interested in before long before any signings had been made.
Would be a good statement of intent if the club paid £500k + add ons to sign him
We missed out on Aaron Collins last season (& JCH the year before). One year the SMT have to deliver the goods.
Admittedly its all a bit theoretical currently as I wouldn't imagine we would be getting big offers while he is in a quiet patch, unless a big club is prepared to gamble to buy that potential.
Yes we have a gap in our midfield for someone, but the team is gelling and a quality midfielder isn't someone you just pick up at your local Tesco.
The club is damned if they do and damned if they don't with this fan base. We've had plenty of January's where we've picked up 5 or 6 players of dubious quality/fit. Seems a bit like people would prefer that to getting rid of dead wood and working with what we have?
Being motivated for L1/League below is another story. We've had this from Arter to Allan Campbell, aswell as several 'short term' signings.
I've learnt the hard way; to judge come match day and beyond.
It’ll be interesting to see if Godden can keep his place. I think there will be games when we need more physicality up front, and Leaburn at some point will grab a goal or two and show why there’s not much between them.