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Elizabeth Line stuffed and Heathrow out of action 21/3/2025

There's a big fire at an electricity substation in Hayes (no, not the Bromley one, the other one) that's taken out the power to Heathrow and the surrounding area. This is also affecting the Elizabeth Line, with severe delays west of Paddington, and no service between Hayes & Harlington and Heathrow. It doesn't appear to be affecting the eastern end of the line as yet, but there may be knock-on effects as the day progresses, so it's probably worth allowing more time for your journey than usual if you use it. Weirdly TFL aren't reporting any issues with the Piccadilly Line, which also goes to Heathrow, but who knows how long that'll last?
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  • Thoughts and prayers for anyone flying in an out of Heathrow today and for the next few days.. this is about as nightmarish as it can possibly be for the Aviation world (which I work in, yay!)
  • cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    Agreed, it's ridiculous that such a minor incident can knock out our main airport for at least a day
  • FYI The Piccadilly Line will be fine as the LU runs on it's own power network 
  • cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    Just saying that to a fellow passenger. Flying back from Dublin. Thankfully to City Airport. As you would imagine BA check in desks are utter chaos at Dublin airport. Not only people trying to get to London but loads of Americans with connecting flights all stranded. 
  • Mate flying out to South Africa on Sunday, going to be fun at the airport for him & his wife.
  • cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    Let me tell you, having worked in functions directly related to DR and Business Continuity for two decades - the first thing to get cut - the FIRST thing - by bean counters is redundancy. Largely because all they care about is the daily bottom line, rather than planning for eventualities.

    That said, the national grid isn't really in a position to be able to supply everything completely redundantly, and since this substation would appear to have taken out multiple redundant points further down the line, it's often not as straightforward as people think to provide a secondary supply.

    Put it another way - pay more taxes and get a better service. Or, alternatively, pay more money for your privatised electricity. 
    Or make your own electric drive a car  and tell them to do one ?

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  • edited March 21
    Remember when the high speed railway network in France was sabotaged on the eve of the Olympics? Kudos that they got it back up and running within a day or two. 

    Obviously at the moment we’ve no idea about the cause of the substation fire but it will be interesting to see how quickly a fix can be put in place. Makes our infrastructure look very suspect / vulnerable. 
  • cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    Watched that documentary on Thames water the other night. Much the same.
    Infrastructure on its arse but the shareholders get a nice big dividend year after year!
    I think this is a comment about capitalism.
    Is it a political or non political comment?
  • cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    Agreed but the backup generator at the power station also went down as well, which is pretty unprecedented.
  • Wow…..closed for the day!!!!
  • TelMc32 said:
    cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    Agreed but the backup generator at the power station also went down as well, which is pretty unprecedented.
    That sounds like the time my old bank had our Indian back office functions hit by massive floods in Chennai. Building and all systems down for days.  It was then we found out that some bright spark had located the contingency site right next door…which funnily enough was also hit by the same flooding and power outages!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
    For years, the Police National Computer (based in Hendon) had their DR site next to... Buncefield oil refinery. That was a fun few months for anyone working in IT for the gavvers 😁
  • Remember when the high speed railway network in France was sabotaged on the eve of the Olympics? Kudos that they got it back up and running within a day or two. 

    Obviously at the moment we’ve no idea about the cause of the substation fire but it will be interesting to see how quickly a fix can be put in place. Makes our infrastructure look very suspect / vulnerable. 
    Agreed, but then I would nationalise the energy companies, as it is a cartel in essence, like the water companies!, but as we are on our arse in the UK, will not live to see that happening to either!. 
  • edited March 21
    cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    Watched that documentary on Thames water the other night. Much the same.
    Infrastructure on its arse but the shareholders get a nice big dividend year after year!
    True, so every shareholder, should sell up and shun Thames water completely. Basically, making the company bankrupt and insolvent. Whilst also screwing those pension funds who will sell the shares into a crashing market. So that impacts all sorts of people, who didn’t even know they owned the shares. Then the Government can step in, and rescue Thames Water (Nationalise) and save the day. Spending £billions of taxpayers money to keep it afloat.  Sounds like a plan….. 

    An no I don’t own shares in Thames….. 

    A those that do have seen them go from £125 to £75 over the last 5 years, which I doubt very much is made up for in their Dividend payments.
  • Counter-terror officers from the Metropolitan Police are leading the investigation into a major fire that has closed Heathrow Airport.

    The force said there was "currently no indication of foul play" but officers were retaining an "open mind at this time" into the cause of the blaze.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg5dg4p2l0o

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  • Rothko said:
    Has anyone seen some Russians looking for historic cathedrals?

    I understand a number are in the area to see the world famous Beck Theatre, known throughout the world for their excellent seasonal pantomime productions.
  • This happened near us last night. I'm not suggesting a link. 

  • At least it's nice and quiet in Staines today! Feels weird not seeing a plane go past my windows at just under 2000ft.
  • cafcfan said:
    It is ludicrous that a piece of infrastructure as important as LHR seemingly does not have back-up capability for its power supply.
    It might very well have a back up to at least a certain extent but possibly not enough to keep everything running all at once - plus if you keep flights going and then there's an issue with the back ups, suddenly you have no power and flights in the air and the possible consequence of that could be horrendous.
  • edited March 21
    A certain source on one of the least reliable 'news' channels, has been blaming 'net zero' for the failure of back up systems at Heathrow.

    According to the BBC (far more reliable) a source at Heathrow said that they have "multiple sources" of energy at the airport - with diesel generators and "uninterruptable power supplies" in place.

    The source says that when the power outage happened the back up systems "all operated as expected".

    The systems, however, are not enough to run the whole airport, hence the decision to close it down.

    The source says the airport is in the process of redirecting power to the affected parts of the operation – but that it "takes time".

  • Who will be picking up the tab,  the airlines will want some sort of reconpence,  Virgin and BA shares have been shaes have been hit. The total cost will runs into millions. In this day and age proper back up systems should be in place to at least keep one terminal fully operational. 
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