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  • Ticket allocations should be ST holders get theirs for the home game and Wembley if we get through, then priority based on points after that and and for the away game with extra points being given to anyone buying a ticket for this Saturday’s game. 
    Extra points for Saturday’s game !!?? - utterly ludicrous idea. ‘Loyalty points’ reward ‘loyalty’ ffs  
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,119
    BalladMan said:
    What's the rule re:  reducing how many tickets we offer away fans? If Reading aren't involved, we will be only club offering a 3k plus away allocation, right behind the goal which naturally helps the away team.

    Can we reduce and mirror what we will be allocated in the reverse fixture? 
    This reddit post from last years play offs offers some insight, but nothing conclusive:https://www.reddit.com/r/LeagueOne/comments/1ch23mp/away_ticket_max_at_l1_stadiums/

    I suspect there are a variety of factors
    - How many home fans will buy tickets (ala Doncaster, offer 3k, if they don't sell out, segregate the JS)
    - Policing
    - min rules from EFL (10% of capacity is a number I have seen quotred, so we would need to offer 2.7k initially in this case)
    The rules now specify 2,000 minimum or 10% of capacity if lower, so 2,700 isn’t relevant.
    thanks for clarifying.  I could not find this info on the EFL site.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,470
    BalladMan said:
    BalladMan said:
    What's the rule re:  reducing how many tickets we offer away fans? If Reading aren't involved, we will be only club offering a 3k plus away allocation, right behind the goal which naturally helps the away team.

    Can we reduce and mirror what we will be allocated in the reverse fixture? 
    This reddit post from last years play offs offers some insight, but nothing conclusive:https://www.reddit.com/r/LeagueOne/comments/1ch23mp/away_ticket_max_at_l1_stadiums/

    I suspect there are a variety of factors
    - How many home fans will buy tickets (ala Doncaster, offer 3k, if they don't sell out, segregate the JS)
    - Policing
    - min rules from EFL (10% of capacity is a number I have seen quotred, so we would need to offer 2.7k initially in this case)
    The rules now specify 2,000 minimum or 10% of capacity if lower, so 2,700 isn’t relevant.
    thanks for clarifying.  I could not find this info on the EFL site.

    35.7 Facilities for visiting supporters 35.7.1

     Each Club must make provision for at least 2,000 visiting supporters at every home match or such number as represents 10% of the Club’s certified capacity, if less than 2,000. The League may, on the prior written application of a Club, suspend this Regulation or reduce the figure either for a particular League Match or for a period of time. Each Club shall, subject to any dispensations granted by the Board, make provision for at least 200 of the visiting supporters (of which not less than 100 must be seats) to be accommodated under cover. Any Club which fails to meet the requirement of 200 visiting supporters being accommodated under cover and which does not have a dispensation granted by the Board shall have such amounts as the Board shall determine (in its absolute discretion) withheld from that Club’s central distributions from the Pool Account until such time as the Club can meet the requirement.

    https://www.efl.com/documents/efl-handbook.pdf

  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,198
    I don’t have a season ticket and think it’s quite right that I wait my turn. I’m pretty confident I’ll get the tickets I want. 
    The only issue for me is how many tickets season ticket holders can buy. If I did miss out on a Wembley final I’d be fairly pissed off reading account of people taking their mates who support other clubs. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,733
    There is absolutely no chance anyone misses out on Wembley (if we get there)
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,979
    Uboat said:
    I don’t have a season ticket and think it’s quite right that I wait my turn. I’m pretty confident I’ll get the tickets I want. 
    The only issue for me is how many tickets season ticket holders can buy. If I did miss out on a Wembley final I’d be fairly pissed off reading account of people taking their mates who support other clubs. 
    Ive only got 5 hammers mates wanting tickets, it'll be fine. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,198
    CAFCTrev said:
    Uboat said:
    I don’t have a season ticket and think it’s quite right that I wait my turn. I’m pretty confident I’ll get the tickets I want. 
    The only issue for me is how many tickets season ticket holders can buy. If I did miss out on a Wembley final I’d be fairly pissed off reading account of people taking their mates who support other clubs. 
    Ive only got 5 hammers mates wanting tickets, it'll be fine. 
    Won’t they be in the Orient end?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    The away ticket sales will be more of an issue if we finish 3rd or 4th, and have the away leg on the Saturday. The club presumably won't get the tickets from Wycombe or Stockport until Monday, giving little time to send tickets out.
  • If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,222
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    Guess that depends if the West Upper can be cut cleanly into a 2,000 segregated area. Didn't go to the Brighton game so no idea how that worked or if they got the whole Upper or if its even possible, gut feeling says it isn't so we'll probably see a similar situation to the Doncaster game i'd expect.
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  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,977
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    Guess that depends if the West Upper can be cut cleanly into a 2,000 segregated area. Didn't go to the Brighton game so no idea how that worked or if they got the whole Upper or if its even possible, gut feeling says it isn't so we'll probably see a similar situation to the Doncaster game i'd expect.
    the home fans with cars in the car park will be happy to know they could have hundreds of drunk young away fans milling around their cars.
    The people wanting a drink in Bartram`s will be pleased let alone those wanting to use the turnstiles for the lower west south.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,635
    The away ticket sales will be more of an issue if we finish 3rd or 4th, and have the away leg on the Saturday. The club presumably won't get the tickets from Wycombe or Stockport until Monday, giving little time to send tickets out.
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    We can't finish 3rd so we wont be playing Orient (or Reading).

    We can only finish 4th or 5th & will be playing either Stockport or Wycombe.


  • msomerton said:
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    Guess that depends if the West Upper can be cut cleanly into a 2,000 segregated area. Didn't go to the Brighton game so no idea how that worked or if they got the whole Upper or if its even possible, gut feeling says it isn't so we'll probably see a similar situation to the Doncaster game i'd expect.
    the home fans with cars in the car park will be happy to know they could have hundreds of drunk young away fans milling around their cars.
    The people wanting a drink in Bartram`s will be pleased let alone those wanting to use the turnstiles for the lower west south.
    Its done at other grounds 

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,586
    Uboat said:
    I don’t have a season ticket and think it’s quite right that I wait my turn. I’m pretty confident I’ll get the tickets I want. 
    The only issue for me is how many tickets season ticket holders can buy. If I did miss out on a Wembley final I’d be fairly pissed off reading account of people taking their mates who support other clubs. 
    If you need a ticket for Wembley you will get one.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,586
    The away ticket sales will be more of an issue if we finish 3rd or 4th, and have the away leg on the Saturday. The club presumably won't get the tickets from Wycombe or Stockport until Monday, giving little time to send tickets out.
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    We can't finish 3rd so we wont be playing Orient (or Reading).

    We can only finish 4th or 5th & will be playing either Stockport or Wycombe.


    Technically and mathematically we can finish third but it's very unlikely.
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,119
    The away ticket sales will be more of an issue if we finish 3rd or 4th, and have the away leg on the Saturday. The club presumably won't get the tickets from Wycombe or Stockport until Monday, giving little time to send tickets out.
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    We can't finish 3rd so we wont be playing Orient (or Reading).

    We can only finish 4th or 5th & will be playing either Stockport or Wycombe.


    It is possibe to get 3rd, it is just unlikely (+6 goal difference swing + draw in Wycombe + Stockport).
  • Belv
    Belv Posts: 836
    msomerton said:
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    Guess that depends if the West Upper can be cut cleanly into a 2,000 segregated area. Didn't go to the Brighton game so no idea how that worked or if they got the whole Upper or if its even possible, gut feeling says it isn't so we'll probably see a similar situation to the Doncaster game i'd expect.
    the home fans with cars in the car park will be happy to know they could have hundreds of drunk young away fans milling around their cars.
    The people wanting a drink in Bartram`s will be pleased let alone those wanting to use the turnstiles for the lower west south.
    Oh no, what a huge sacrifice that is when trying to give our side every chance of getting to Wembley and promotion from this hell hole of a divison! How will they cope without their £7 pint of Grolsch!?

    You also realise that crowds of people including away fans pass through the west stand car park at every home game?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    The away ticket sales will be more of an issue if we finish 3rd or 4th, and have the away leg on the Saturday. The club presumably won't get the tickets from Wycombe or Stockport until Monday, giving little time to send tickets out.
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    We can't finish 3rd so we wont be playing Orient (or Reading).

    We can only finish 4th or 5th & will be playing either Stockport or Wycombe.


    Technically and mathematically we can finish third but it's very unlikely.
    It's extremely unlikely, but it's not the sort of freak result which can be completely ignored for planning purposes, especially if Burton are safe by getting a result midweek, and on the beach next weekend.

    Not the same situation as they were going for automatic, and were playing a very poor Scunthorpe side, but 3 years ago Bristol Rovers clinched promotion ahead of Northampton by winning 7-0 on the final day of the season. 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61281127
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,742
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    Guess that depends if the West Upper can be cut cleanly into a 2,000 segregated area. Didn't go to the Brighton game so no idea how that worked or if they got the whole Upper or if its even possible, gut feeling says it isn't so we'll probably see a similar situation to the Doncaster game i'd expect.
    As above, you cannot have 2,000 away fans in the upper west and also use it for home fans. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,979
    If the current 4 in the playoffs off places remains the same, I think its safe to say we would take the most to Wembley. At most Wycombe/Orient/Stockport might take 25k. We could get an even bigger allocation than the 38k we had last time which was limited by the fact we were playing another big club.  
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,924
    shine166 said:
    BalladMan said:
    Would getting a Valley Gold membership right now aid this?
    If you sign up and pay for 6 months Valley Gold up front (and therefore eligible for priority purchases), yes. 
    That is inherently unfair.
    It’s only £60 
    You won’t mind paying mine then 😂

    Seriously though why should someone be able to stump up £60 up front just to get themselves ticketing priority? Personally I’d say you had to be a member for a full year before you get such an entitlement.
    How would that work ? the membership is only valid for 1 year at a time... so the day youd be entitled to tickets your membership would run out 😝.

    Don’t split hairs.

     Priority tickets should be based on your back history not a future promise. 

    In the past, there were requirements to show ticket stubs to prove how many matches you’d been to.

    Then again,  this is 2025. He who pays more, gets more. Everything counts in large amounts.
    Nothing to do with 2025, its been that way for years. You also have to have paid 6 months before your entitled to a discount so your suggestions are already in place.

    As usual though, these issues only ever come up if weve had a good season or a FA cup run.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    CAFCTrev said:
    If the current 4 in the playoffs off places remains the same, I think its safe to say we would take the most to Wembley. At most Wycombe/Orient/Stockport might take 25k. We could get an even bigger allocation than the 38k we had last time which was limited by the fact we were playing another big club.  
    Agreed. If we get to Wembley we will win IMO. Massive advantage over the other, let's face it, smaller clubs. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,198
    ButtleJR said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    If the current 4 in the playoffs off places remains the same, I think its safe to say we would take the most to Wembley. At most Wycombe/Orient/Stockport might take 25k. We could get an even bigger allocation than the 38k we had last time which was limited by the fact we were playing another big club.  
    Agreed. If we get to Wembley we will win IMO. Massive advantage over the other, let's face it, smaller clubs. 
    Is that a direct quote from Sunderland’s forum in 1998 or 2019?
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    ButtleJR said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    If the current 4 in the playoffs off places remains the same, I think its safe to say we would take the most to Wembley. At most Wycombe/Orient/Stockport might take 25k. We could get an even bigger allocation than the 38k we had last time which was limited by the fact we were playing another big club.  
    Agreed. If we get to Wembley we will win IMO. Massive advantage over the other, let's face it, smaller clubs. 
    dangerous talk..
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,635
    BalladMan said:
    The away ticket sales will be more of an issue if we finish 3rd or 4th, and have the away leg on the Saturday. The club presumably won't get the tickets from Wycombe or Stockport until Monday, giving little time to send tickets out.
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    We can't finish 3rd so we wont be playing Orient (or Reading).

    We can only finish 4th or 5th & will be playing either Stockport or Wycombe.


    It is possibe to get 3rd, it is just unlikely (+6 goal difference swing + draw in Wycombe + Stockport).
    And only if Stockport & Wycombe draw 0-0 due to goals scored. The more they score the more we need to as well. A 2-2 draw means we need to win by 8 clear goals.

    Call me old fashioned but that's not happening even if Burton went down to 9 players.  

    So let's take the hypotheticals out of this shall we...🙄.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,742
    edited April 28
    BalladMan said:
    The away ticket sales will be more of an issue if we finish 3rd or 4th, and have the away leg on the Saturday. The club presumably won't get the tickets from Wycombe or Stockport until Monday, giving little time to send tickets out.
    If we get Orient, Stockport or Wycombe we should give them half of the West Upper. Given the allocation that we would get from them for the away games, have Charlton kicking towards our fans in both half's 
    We can't finish 3rd so we wont be playing Orient (or Reading).

    We can only finish 4th or 5th & will be playing either Stockport or Wycombe.


    It is possibe to get 3rd, it is just unlikely (+6 goal difference swing + draw in Wycombe + Stockport).
    And only if Stockport & Wycombe draw 0-0 due to goals scored. The more they score the more we need to as well. A 2-2 draw means we need to win by 8 clear goals.

    Call me old fashioned but that's not happening even if Burton went down to 9 players.  

    So let's take the hypotheticals out of this shall we...🙄.
    That’s not quite right. If we won 7-0 and they drew by any score we would go above them as their goal difference would still be inferior.

    6-0 would be enough in the event of a goalless draw.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    ButtleJR said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    If the current 4 in the playoffs off places remains the same, I think its safe to say we would take the most to Wembley. At most Wycombe/Orient/Stockport might take 25k. We could get an even bigger allocation than the 38k we had last time which was limited by the fact we were playing another big club.  
    Agreed. If we get to Wembley we will win IMO. Massive advantage over the other, let's face it, smaller clubs. 
    dangerous talk..
    I think we will really struggle if we get Stockport in the semi's on their tiny pitch but would feel quite comfortable against any of the other sides in the conversation. BUT, if we manage to get to the final I back us. Feeling positive... hopefully Jones rests quite a few saturday to give us the best chance of fielding our strongest team in the play offs.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,818
    ButtleJR said:
    ButtleJR said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    If the current 4 in the playoffs off places remains the same, I think its safe to say we would take the most to Wembley. At most Wycombe/Orient/Stockport might take 25k. We could get an even bigger allocation than the 38k we had last time which was limited by the fact we were playing another big club.  
    Agreed. If we get to Wembley we will win IMO. Massive advantage over the other, let's face it, smaller clubs. 
    dangerous talk..
    I think we will really struggle if we get Stockport in the semi's on their tiny pitch but would feel quite comfortable against any of the other sides in the conversation. BUT, if we manage to get to the final I back us. Feeling positive... hopefully Jones rests quite a few saturday to give us the best chance of fielding our strongest team in the play offs.
    agree with that, Stockport are the only team I wouldn't particularly fancy in the semi's 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    If we can’t beat Stockport in the semis or at Wembley we don’t deserve to go up. 

    Orient because of the ‘derby’ factor worry me most. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    I know we beat them twice but are people overlooking Orient a little bit. They’ve won 5 in a row (will be 6 after next week most likely) and scoring a lot of goals. 

    I think we are the best team out of the 4, but I think Stockport and Orient would be tough semi finals or final opponents 
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